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Doctor Dre 11-29-2011 11:14 PM

Read about that a while ago.

Centrifugal Force - The False Force

An evil word has worked its way into our daily vocabulary, and with it, an incorrect understanding of the way physics works. "Centrifugal Force" ( Latin for "center fleeing") is often used to describe why mud gets spun off a spinning tire, or water gets pushed out of the clothes during the spin dry cycle of your washer. It is also used to describe why we tend to slide to the outer side of a car going around a curve. It is a common explanation...the only problem is all of it is absolutely wrong!!! Centrifugal force does not exist...there is no such thing...it is a ghost we tend to blame odd behavior on.

Take for example this common situation. You are riding in a car going around a curve. Sitting on your dashboard is a cassette tape. As you go around the curve, the tape moves to outside edge of the car. Because you don't want to blame it on ghosts, you say "centrifugal force pushed the tape across the dashboard."--wwrroonngg!! When we view this situation from above the car, we get a better view of what is really happening. The animation below shows both views at the same time. The top window shows you the bird's eye view of the car and the tape, while the bottom window shows you the familiar view from the passenger.

http://regentsprep.org/regents/physi...if/casette.gif

The car tires on the road have a enough static friction to act as centripetal force which forces the car to go around the curve. The tape on the slippery dashboard does not have enough friction to act as a centripetal force, so in the absence of a centripetal force the tape follows straight line motion. The car literally turns out from underneath the tape, but from the passenger's point of view it looks as though something (a ghost force?) pushed the tape across the dashboard. If the car you are riding in has the windows rolled down, then the tape will leave the car (or does the car leave the tape?) as it follows its straight line path. If the windows are rolled up, then the window will deliver a centripetal force to the tape and keep it in a circular path.

Any time the word Centrifugal Force is used, what is really being described is a Lack-of-Centripetal Force.

Mr Pheer 11-30-2011 01:17 AM

Amazing how many people confuse themselves with this.

Solace 11-30-2011 01:19 AM

Well I'm not confused a terms a term.

Mr Pheer 11-30-2011 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Solace (Post 18594296)
Well I'm not confused a terms a term.

Exactly. And Sleazy asked what is the difference between centrifugal force and gravity. People came up with all kinds of shit.

Its amusing.

ArsewithClass 11-30-2011 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 18593660)
It will fall in a curve anyway, simply because the walls of the bucket travel faster than the center. Even if its not in a bucket, the same rules apply. Most buckets that I know of, do not have enough mass in the center to affect anything with their own gravity.

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18593817)
Correct, but if the object falling is a compact sphere, is shall roll & probably fall directly down due to the velocity of the sphere spinning & the earth spinning in it's gravitational pull :thumbsup

BTW, what's all the Bournemouth bullshit???? I support Bedford rugby, considering I'm a Bedford Homeboy? While we're here... Shout out for the Bedford massive :winkwink:

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 18594323)
Exactly. And Sleazy asked what is the difference between centrifugal force and gravity. People came up with all kinds of shit.

Its amusing.

Yet you answered it straight forward & I agreed... yet still I do not understand your sig?

Solace 11-30-2011 01:52 AM

I was going to kill it and ruin the thread i'll be honest..
Centrifugal immediately equated itself to me as simply the word meaning centrism, or inside to outside; whereas magnetism or gravity if you will ,which as a laymen and just going off the wording, I'd think works in the opposite way. The body is affected from the outside to the inside by it. I can't ruin intellectual threads though so I'm vague with the terms :) Good thread for sure, nice to see intelligence in this day and age, too fucking rare it is.

cam_girls 12-01-2011 04:04 PM




Good waste of a morning... I did the trampoline experiment!

chaze 12-01-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18591602)
Centfigal force is the way the planits swing around our sun from a rope, and gravity is the magnets in the Earth core pulling us down.

If this is true and I believe it, then wouldn't the magnet in the middle of the earth pull all elements at the same power?

I mean magnets now just work with metal, what if there is a magnet that would work with everything? Interesting to think if this is possible what it would allow people to do.

Brad Mitchell 12-01-2011 06:57 PM

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Mr Pheer 12-01-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18594327)
Yet you answered it straight forward & I agreed... yet still I do not understand your sig?

Click the link, it will all become clear.


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