What converts better... Nats or CCBill?

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  • beks001
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2006
    • 1837

    #1

    What converts better... Nats or CCBill?

    What's converting better for you these days? Nats programs or CCBill? I've been having some bad luck with both of them but that is just me. I find CCBill sales come in more but at a much lower EPS. What about y'all? What ya like best?
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  • Klen
    • Aug 2006
    • 32235

    #2
    Nats programs due to cascade and larger content availability.Days when ccbill converted better due to various content sponsors are long gone.

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    • roganoli
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2004
      • 757

      #3
      CCBILL of course...

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      • Fat Panda
        Porn is Dead. Move along.
        • Aug 2006
        • 13296

        #4
        ccbill is a fucking joke. the 1990s stats system is pathetic. porn is done

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        • BumpUglyz
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2001
          • 1124

          #5
          CCBILL, but 10 year worth of rebills gone
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          • pornmasta
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jun 2006
            • 20016

            #6
            Visa decides...

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            • Lace
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Mar 2004
              • 16116

              #7
              Ccbill has been 1:20k+ for me lately. Don't know wtf is going on. It's insane. My nats programs have been all over the map but no where even close to ccbill's ratios.
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              • Wicked 1
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2003
                • 188

                #8
                Originally posted by BumpUglyz
                CCBILL, but 10 year worth of rebills gone
                Where did they go ?.

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                • Ginn
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 627

                  #9
                  I better love NATS.

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                  • SpicyM
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 4575

                    #10
                    I received a sign up notification email from CCBill and it was a pretty nice sale:

                    Total price: $69.95
                    Commission Percentage: 50.00%
                    Commission Amount: $34.98


                    I went to see the stats but I could not find the sale, it was not displayed in the stats so I contacted their support dept and asked them why it was not shown and this is their reply:

                    I have taken a look at the subscription and also your affiliate account. While I was looking at the subscription I saw it read as a Failed Batch. A Failed Batch means At the time the subscription was created our processor was unavailable to complete the transaction so a subscription was created as if the transaction would be approved. These transactions are placed in a batch to be ran when the server is able to process again. This customer was then declined and is in the system now as a failed batch and an inactive subscription. This customer would have initially received a decline if our processor was available on the first attempt but because it was not, it was declined on the next attempt.

                    I asked what was the reason he was declined:

                    The consumer bank chose to not honor their card. For a more specific reason they would need to ask their bank.

                    I wonder how many surfers have banks that do not want to honor their cards
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                    • Alice22
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 907

                      #11
                      It's really depends on the sites...
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                      • MrDeiz
                        • May 2008
                        • 9802

                        #12
                        according to my stats NATS and other autonomous back-ends have much bigger drop in sales for 2011 than CCBill, which performs pretty stable for me over the year

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                        • icymelon
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3220

                          #13
                          nats sites that are not using ccbill might do well. but if your compare nats sites using ccbill then its going to be the same
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                          • CHMOD
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 1697

                            #14
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                            • marlboroack
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 9327

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SAC
                              ccbill is a fucking joke. the 1990s stats system is pathetic. porn is done

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                              • seanchai
                                A Grooby Guy
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 397

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BumpUglyz
                                CCBILL, but 10 year worth of rebills gone
                                Long gone - we're into 11 and 12 yr rebills now!

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                                • BumpUglyz
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 1124

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Wicked 1
                                  Where did they go ?.
                                  Someone's pocket, just not mine

                                  Originally posted by seanchai
                                  Long gone - we're into 11 and 12 yr rebills now!
                                  So after all this time, same with you?
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                                  • margarita
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 917

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SAC
                                    ccbill is a fucking joke. the 1990s stats system is pathetic. porn is done
                                    It's much better to check their stats using NS or other software
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                                    • Solace
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Nov 2011
                                      • 995

                                      #19
                                      Neither, Custom.

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