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the government holds a lot more power than they let on!
the last people you want to f*ck with!
any high level government operative can make you just disappear.
you're guilty as hell in prison... no one can hear you scream behind closed doors!
if you think you can chant in Times Square still, those days are long gone!
It's the status quo... time to wake up... hippy communes breed terrorists! whether true or not that's how you get treated.Last edited by cam_girls; 11-21-2011, 07:00 PM.Comment
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Oh Jesus who gave this idiot internet access?the government holds a lot more power than they let on!
the last people you want to f*ck with!
any high level government operative can make you just disappear.
you're guilty as hell in prison... no one can hear you scream behind closed doors!
if you think you can chant in Times Square still, those days are long gone!
It's the status quo... time to wake up... hippy communes breed terrorists! whether true or not that's how you get treated.
You watch too much television, cam_girls. Your stupidity is showing in vivid Technicolor. Maybe when you become an adult you will realize just how unbelievably retarded you sounded here.
To all of you ranting about what the tangent of the students was or you think it was, and making comments about what they eat, their bathing habits ect... get a clue and try not to go off topic. The issue of this thread was whether or not the police acted with excessive force.
Its a quad they are sitting on and there is a lawn that needs watering. The wisest use of forced compliance would have been for the police to just leave and turn on the sprinklers. Pepper spray was not warranted.
The federal courts have ruled on such cases. At the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers courts in nine western states, the cases have centered on whether or not the protesters were involved in what is called "active resistance."
The court used the term in considering a case about another highly circulated video of a group of passive demonstrators being swabbed with pepper spray in 1997. The protesters had linked arms on the floor of a California congressman's office to protest the logging of old-growth redwood trees on California's North Coast.
Because demonstrators were using a metal sleeve to prevent the county sheriff's office from separating them, attorneys argued the protestors'"active resistance" left officers no other way to disperse them than dabbing their eyelids with Q-tips soaked in pepper spray, said Jim Wheaton, an attorney who assisted in the prosecution of the civil case.
The 9th Circuit ruled that the protesters weren't in "active resistance," and because they were sitting peacefully, the use of pepper spray was excessive.
"Pepper spray is designed to protect people from a violent attack, to stop somebody from doing something," said Wheaton, senior counsel for the Oakland-based First Amendment Project.
UC Davis police used "it as a torture device to force someone to do something, and that's exactly what the 9th Circuit said was unreasonable and excessive."
Squealer, you're a putz and I am glad you are not my neighbor. You come off as just the type of hysterical prissy little pussy who calls the cops over every little issue.
cam_girls, have you ever considered a career in police work? I think you would fit right in considering you are fully qualified as a bona fide retarded dip shit.
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I guess you would say the same thing about the parents of children from the 60's? Ironically those kids are now the ones in the power, the ones who bankrupted the nation leaving the mess for their children and their childrens children. We are the lamb.Last edited by BlackCrayon; 11-22-2011, 06:10 AM.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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Your car would be towed and you would most likely be taken in for a psychological evaluation.
The police gave them a direct order telling them to take down down the tents, they refused. They were told to leave the area, they refused. They were told they were going to be arrested, and they refused.
They refused arrested by not standing up and putting their hands behind their backs. Instead the children linked arms and sat there. They resisted arrest, and the police moved in on them.
There is a huge difference between a dorm room and a public space on a college campus. There is a lot more legal protection for your home than there is in a public space.
However, with that said, if the police catch you doing something illegal in your dorm room or your house they can arrest you there too.
No, not really. The police didn't know who these children where. They refused to be arrested; They refused to turn over any school ID or any other form of ID. The police couldn't ID them to report them. So they got arrested.Herschel Savage
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No, they cannot. During a dispute it's clearly within their power to have you return an item to another person, or to vacate the area - even if it's your house. They cannot tell me to have sex with someone or tell me to jump off a bridge.
No one is saying we need to blindly follow and obey the police. But when they say "vacate the area" it's clearly in your best interests to move.
I'm intentionally calling them children because they act like children. They are college students, and think they know it all. They are kids.
Are you implying that I have something to do with children porn because I post up pictures of Kari Sweets?if those 20+ yo students are children what is this ? ch_____ porn ?
http://www.rochardsbunnyranch.com/bl...lege-babe.html
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cmon man , you and i both know you're full of shit
they didn't attempt to arrest anyone until after they pepper sprayed them as far as i can tell, you do realise the cops have to follow the laws too right ?
i heard no such order.
i saw no children linking arms .. i saw adults.
You should know better than to call adults children when you promote porn involving ADULTS the same age or younger than the people you are calling children.
They resisted arrest, and the police moved in on them.
not if your dorm room is on the campus..
not if what you are doing is sitting down
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although you show no proof of this at all
although you have no facts to back this up and no evidence of it whatsoever
guess you have never heard nor care of the constitution
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We need to tax these people.
Haha.. best solution ever to the national debt..
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yes they can , a cop can do whatever he wants, unless you are of the opinion a cop is incapable of breaking the law ?
yes , unfortunately they can , it is up to you to decide if you want to obey the order.
you are saying that.. you obviously are scared to answer the question..
I will make it easier for you , " would you jump off a bridge if a cop told you to ? "
i will answer it for you because you probably wont.. "no you wouldnt jump off a bridge if a cop ordered you to"
why wouldn't you ? because you probably feel ( like americas founding fathers felt and instructed us to do ) you shouldn't comply with unjust laws
best interest for a sheep maybe, because sheep do what they are told
so educated 20 year olds are "kids" and uneducated 18 year olds naked taking a cock in the ass on a website are ?
i think legal age adults are legal age adults, you seem to be implying people of college age are children.
This is what you just said "They are college students, and think they know it all. They are kids."
So tell me then what makes the college students on your website not kids that think they know it all ( by your definition of college students ) ? the fact they chose to do porn ? lol , that makes them suddenly smart adults ?Last edited by SmokeyTheBear; 11-22-2011, 07:01 AM.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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There is a huge difference between an enforceable order and one that is not. Grow up.
What unjust laws? Are you saying it should be perfectly legal for anyone to pitch a tent anywhere they want?
This is a childish argument, isn't it?so educated 20 year olds are "kids" and uneducated 18 year olds naked taking a cock in the ass on a website are ?
i think legal age adults are legal age adults, you seem to be implying people of college age are children.
This is what you just said "They are college students, and think they know it all. They are kids."
So tell me then what makes the college students on your website not kids that think they know it all ( by your definition of college students ) ? the fact they chose to do porn ? lol , that makes them suddenly smart adults ?
Anyone under the age of twenty-five for me is a "kid". Hence the term "college kids". I'm calling them children because they are acting like children.
The ironic part is was that this protest was about college tuition hikes. They just cost their college millions of dollars in legal fees over the next two or three years. That really helps their cause.Herschel Savage
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No, I'm not full of shit. If you park your car on the grass and then refuse to remove it after police order you do, they'll tow your fucking car, arrest you, and put you in a padded room while they try to figure out if your mentally ill. Because sane people don't park their car in the middle of a courtyard on a college campus.
Your only seeing fifteen minutes of something that took place over a much longer period. For example, you don't see the tents up, and you don't see the tents removing.
I see the police officer go up to the students a number of times in the video and seems to warn them about what's going down. He didn't walk up to them three or four times and ask what kind of pie they were having on Thanksgiving. They were warned. He even went to them and displayed the pepper spray, most likely saying something like "I'm about to pepper spray you". Don't make this out like the police officer suddenly sprayed them for no reason at all. They were warned multiple times.
They are adults. They are also "college kids".
So because I work in porn I can't use the phrase "college kids" or imply that they are acting like children?
Grow the fuck up already.
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not if your dorm room is on the campus..
Not at all. Just because your dorm room is on campus doesn't mean they can do whatever they want. You can't do anything illegal, and I'm guessing there is a long list of school rules that apply here.
I have in fact heard of the US Constitution, and in fact was at one point sworn to uphold it. But some people seem to think that the US Constitution gives us rights as citizens that we do not have, and also that the US Constitution has no limits.
For example, the Constitution does not give us the right to protest. This is a "perceived" right. We have the right to assemble and the right to freedom of speech, both these are in fact limited. For example, you and your friends have the right to assemble, but you do not have the right to assemble in my living room. You have the right to freedom of speech, yet Slander laws apply and you cannot lie under oath.Herschel Savage
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What those kids were doing was wrong, but porky pig needs a taste of his own mace for sure.
I have to ask, what did cops do in situations like this back in the days before pepper spray was invented? Oh that's right, they either bent down, grabbed each one physically, and forcibly arrested them, or they beat them silly with riot bats.
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Oh Jesus who gave this idiot internet access?
You watch too much television, cam_girls. Your stupidity is showing in vivid Technicolor. Maybe when you become an adult you will realize just how unbelievably retarded you sounded here.
To all of you ranting about what the tangent of the students was or you think it was, and making comments about what they eat, their bathing habits ect... get a clue and try not to go off topic. The issue of this thread was whether or not the police acted with excessive force.
Its a quad they are sitting on and there is a lawn that needs watering. The wisest use of forced compliance would have been for the police to just leave and turn on the sprinklers. Pepper spray was not warranted.
The federal courts have ruled on such cases. At the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers courts in nine western states, the cases have centered on whether or not the protesters were involved in what is called "active resistance."
The court used the term in considering a case about another highly circulated video of a group of passive demonstrators being swabbed with pepper spray in 1997. The protesters had linked arms on the floor of a California congressman's office to protest the logging of old-growth redwood trees on California's North Coast.
Because demonstrators were using a metal sleeve to prevent the county sheriff's office from separating them, attorneys argued the protestors'"active resistance" left officers no other way to disperse them than dabbing their eyelids with Q-tips soaked in pepper spray, said Jim Wheaton, an attorney who assisted in the prosecution of the civil case.
The 9th Circuit ruled that the protesters weren't in "active resistance," and because they were sitting peacefully, the use of pepper spray was excessive.
"Pepper spray is designed to protect people from a violent attack, to stop somebody from doing something," said Wheaton, senior counsel for the Oakland-based First Amendment Project.
UC Davis police used "it as a torture device to force someone to do something, and that's exactly what the 9th Circuit said was unreasonable and excessive."
Squealer, you're a putz and I am glad you are not my neighbor. You come off as just the type of hysterical prissy little pussy who calls the cops over every little issue.
cam_girls, have you ever considered a career in police work? I think you would fit right in considering you are fully qualified as a bona fide retarded dip shit.
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When did cops start becoming fat, out of shape lard asses?
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They do get a taste of their own pepper spray. It's part of the training. When I was in the Marines in boot camp at Paris Island, we went to the gas chamber. We had masks on, it shows us how the masks work, and then they make us take them off and then sing - ensuring we inhale the tear gas. When you run out of there you have snot hanging from your nose all the way to the ground, and thick snot too!What those kids were doing was wrong, but porky pig needs a taste of his own mace for sure.
I have to ask, what did cops do in situations like this back in the days before pepper spray was invented? Oh that's right, they either bent down, grabbed each one physically, and forcibly arrested them, or they beat them silly with riot bats.
Cops are getting lazy.
I think the general public is very naive. Twenty or thirty years ago before we had pepper spray, they attempted to separate them with their night sticks, it was very physical, and it hurt a lot of people. Believe it or not, this IS the peaceful way of arresting someone who is refusing to be arrested.Herschel Savage
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College kids get pepper sprayed and it's front page news in the US, while protesters in other countries are having their children shot and killed. Amazing.
This is what I don't get. We are making this pepper spray out to be a huge deal when it's really not. They got pepper sprayed, and were fine half an hour later. It's not like they got their faces smashed on the pavement.
Our morals and values are warped. Pepper spray = horrible, but no one cares about children getting shot in a foreign country.Herschel Savage
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The point is for you faggots who don't have the mental capacity to fathom it, being pepper sprayed is a more humane way than it was 20 years ago. Hell even 10 years ago.
Hopefully next time, bitches get tasered.
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wow man
sounds like someone is volunteering to pepper spray themselves and post the video
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Look at you trying to use your brain. What part of Pepper Spray ain't shit to Tear Gas don't you understand? I know you're a liberal canadian and all, but it isn't hard to understand.
Pepper spray is out of your system in 15 minutes, CS gas takes a good hour or more for all the effects to be flushed out. But you wouldn't know that would you? You're another moron behind a computer monitor that hasn't done shit in your life.
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actually i don't understand the relevance. the entire time, we have been speaking about pepper spray. most of my, personal experience, is bear mace.
which takes a bit longer than 15 minutes to 'be out of your system'
but if you're saying it takes YOU 15 minutes to get it out of your system
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That is absolutely correct. It is a multi generational failure on display. The degenerate spoiled hippie trash of the 60's has spawned an even more noxious generation of lazy, narcissistic mutts who firmly believe that they are entitled to all the material rewards of life without any of the work. Truly disgusting stuff.
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Pepper spray is not CS Tear Gas, what part of your obtuse brain can't understand that?actually i don't understand the relevance. the entire time, we have been speaking about pepper spray. most of my, personal experience, is bear mace.
which takes a bit longer than 15 minutes to 'be out of your system'
but if you're saying it takes YOU 15 minutes to get it out of your system
i'd really like to see it
I don't give a fuck what you want. Being mentally deficient is not a new debating style on GFY, but you sure do shine using it.
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That is absolutely correct. It is a multi generational failure on display. The degenerate spoiled hippie trash of the 60's has spawned an even more noxious generation of lazy, narcissistic mutts who firmly believe that they are entitled to all the material rewards of life without any of the work. Truly disgusting stuff.
One of the signs of narcissism is the inability to feel empathy towards others, you have demonstrated this characteristic in just about every post I've seen on here.Comment
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So here's the ultimate irony..... The cop's name is Lt John Pike.
(news link)Pike has twice been honored by the university for exceptional police work, including a 2006 incident in which he tackled a scissor-wielding hospital patient who was threatening fellow officers. Afterward, he said he decided against using pepper spray because it might harm his colleagues or other hospital patients.
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The UC Davis Quad has been reoccupied following a rally of around 5,000 people on Monday at noon. The rally was held in solidarity with non-violent student protesters who were pepper sprayed during a protest on Friday.
The East Quad was completely covered in students, alumni and community members listening to speeches made by students and faculty. News vans parked near the fountain, and media outlets rushed to broadcast. Slow internet stifled the KDVS 90.3 live stream. Twitter updates and text messages took minutes to load.
?The whole world is watching Davis,? a speaker said during the General Assembly.
Speeches were followed by a formal consensus-based meeting, in which participants voted in support of holding a general strike on Nov. 28. A second proposal, to ?declare campus as an autonomous sanctuary space based on international historic model? and to disband campus police, did not pass.
Monday evening, students joined together to build a 15 foot tall dome and reoccupy the Quad with tents.
Student speakers described their personal feelings on Friday?s police actions and encouraged the audience to continue to be non-violent.
?They started pulling my friends from the circle, and throwing them on the ground and putting them in handcuffs and dragging them away,? said senior mechanical engineering major David Buscho. ?At that point, there was no more encampment, there was no more stuff there. We were just kids, sitting down in a circle singing.?
First-hand experiences of being pepper sprayed garnered an emotional response from the crowd.
?My friends buried their faces into their chest and then it happened. At that point I entered a world of pain,? Buscho said. ?It felt like hot glass was entering my eyes. I couldn?t see anything, I wanted to open my eyes but every time I did, the pain got worse. I wanted to breathe, but I couldn?t because my face was covered in pepper spray.?
?I want us to take back this university brick by brick, and we will do it with dignity and respect!? Buscho said.
?Should I talk about the fear that I felt when I saw my friends thrown to the ground by brutal police officers for standing, linking arms peacefully?? said Deanna Johnson, a sophomore environmental horticulture and urban forestry major, who was also pepper sprayed by UC Davis police.
?Should I talk about the fear that I felt when I heard the crowd scream before the pepper spray hit my face? But what I decided to speak about today is not the horrible violence that I experienced, but the community that I felt when I stood in solidarity with my fellow students, supporting our university,? Johnson said.
In lulls between speeches, the crowd chanted ?Whose university? Our university!? Many held signs that read ?Katehi resign.?
The controversy over police action against UC Davis students follows accounts of police brutality on the UC Berkeley campus, in which students were hit by police with batons. Videos of both incidents have gone viral online, reaching people all over the world and causing public outrage.
?I?m from UC Berkeley and I just want to say we stand in solidarity with you. Rise up! We?re all in this together,? said a student speaker who identified himself as Joe Fenton from UC Berkeley.
After his speech, the crowd broke out into the chant ?UC, UC, UC solidarity.?
Similar incidents have been reported at McGill University in Montreal. According to the McGill Daily and Le Délit, during a campus demonstration against tuition hikes in early November, students began throwing things at police officers and riot police were called in. The riot police then used pepper spray and tear gas on students.
Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi followed through with her promise and attended the General Assembly. She was asked to wait in line like the other speakers. The crowd booed as she approached the stage, but many chanted ?let her speak.?
?I am here to apologize. I feel horrible for what happened on Friday. If you think you don?t want to be students in a university like we had on Friday, I am just telling you, I don?t want to be the chancellor of the university we had on Friday,? Katehi said, fighting back tears.
?Our university has to be better than it is, and it needs all of the communities to come together to do that. We need to work together,? Katehi said. ?And I know that you may not believe anything that I am telling you today and you don?t have to. It is my responsibility to earn your trust.?
After Katehi spoke, UC President Mark Yudof talked with all 10 UC chancellors via teleconference to discuss the rights of student protesters.
The crowd dwindled as the afternoon went on. After Katehi left, many audience members and media followed. By The General Assembly, there were 1,729 people voting. An open mic, to give more students the chance to speak, ended the rally.
By nightfall, 30 tents had been pitched and volunteers worked to build a 15 feet-tall and 30 feet-wide dome structure.
California State Assembly Speaker John Pérez visited the tent occupation to talk to students. Pérez is also an ex officio UC Regent.
?As I told the students, I?m very impressed by their tenacity, their organization skills and the fact that they kept themselves focused on raising the issues they?ve been talking about,? Pérez said.

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they also threw their kids under the bus. they enjoyed the most prosperous times in america's history and look how they are leaving things. totally fucked up and seemingly hopeless for a lot of young people. we are the lamb, the kids pay the price fo the mistakes of previous generation.That is absolutely correct. It is a multi generational failure on display. The degenerate spoiled hippie trash of the 60's has spawned an even more noxious generation of lazy, narcissistic mutts who firmly believe that they are entitled to all the material rewards of life without any of the work. Truly disgusting stuff.
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Funny how you conveniently left out this....
'But an alleged anti-gay slur by Pike also figured in a racial and sexual discrimination lawsuit a former police officer filed against the department, which ended in a $240,000 settlement in 2008. Officer Calvin Chang's 2003 discrimination complaint against the university's police chief and the UC Board of Regents alleged he was systematically marginalized as the result of anti-gay and racist attitudes on the force, and he specifically claimed Pike described him using a profane anti-gay epithet.'
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they also threw their kids under the bus. they enjoyed the most prosperous times in america's history and look how they are leaving things. totally fucked up and seemingly hopeless for a lot of young people. we are the lamb, the kids pay the price fo the mistakes of previous generation.
And so the useless spoiled offspring riot in the streets demanding even more government spending and handouts........ the same policies supported and implemented by their parents that created the mess.
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