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11-20-2011, 12:54 PM

BTW, the "administrative action" against Police Leut. John Pike is just a damage control PR stunt.

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11-20-2011, 12:56 PM

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Totally, thanks to the the boys in blue for spraying those students, I was really afraid for my safety and others. LOL.

Yeah and clearly they were "circled in" since the one cop was able to step over the line of students in order to pepper spray them.

Has it ever occurred to you that they were circled by the mob around them? No, that's too far fetched, right? Read into it what you will, in fact why don't you take your ass down there and protest with them.
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11-20-2011, 02:04 PM

What's the other side of the story? It's hard to believe they would spray them just for the fun of it. It looks like they are deliberately trying to block something. Was it private property and were they refusing to move?

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11-20-2011, 02:33 PM

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Students defiantly encircle the tents which they were asked by campus administration and security to remove:

Wow, could they be any more stereotypical hippies? There's a lot of granola and Starbucks latte's that have passed through those mouth holes. Even though I agree with the general idea of these protests, I just want to smash each of them in the face with a canoe for being such fucking hippies.

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11-20-2011, 02:56 PM

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I feel much safer now I know the cops are doing everything they can to keep us safe

I had some of that stuff come back into my face when I sprayed someone with it on a windy day. Even blowback from it is enough to put you out of commission for a good ten minutes from coughing and not being able to see through the water in your eyes.

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11-20-2011, 03:20 PM

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I had some of that stuff come back into my face when I sprayed someone with it on a windy day. Even blowback from it is enough to put you out of commission for a good ten minutes from coughing and not being able to see through the water in your eyes.

Pepper spray isn't anywhere as bad as Tear gas. That sucked ass.
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11-20-2011, 03:22 PM

yeah well tear gas has been used in multiple cities as well as rubber bullets, clubs and sonic weapons.

is this america or china, iran or north korea?
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11-20-2011, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by bronco67

Wow, could they be any more stereotypical hippies? There's a lot of granola and Starbucks latte's that have passed through those mouth holes. Even though I agree with the general idea of these protests, I just want to smash each of them in the face with a canoe for being such fucking hippies.

Have you ever been seen by a shrink? You have some serious anger issues.
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11-20-2011, 05:17 PM

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11-20-2011, 06:18 PM

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yeah well tear gas has been used in multiple cities as well as rubber bullets, clubs and sonic weapons.

is this america or china, iran or north korea?

If it was China, Iran, North Korea, or 1943 Germany as these protestors are all screaming - They'd all be shot and killed.
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11-20-2011, 06:19 PM

Try watching the entire video instead of one screen capture
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11-20-2011, 08:40 PM

The children were told to remove their tents.
The children were told to leave the area.
The children were told they would be arrested.
The children were told they would be pepper sprayed.

The children were pepper sprayed, the children were arrested, the children left the area in handcuffs, and the children had their tents removed. Children will be children.

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11-20-2011, 09:45 PM

Whatcha crying about now protester?
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11-20-2011, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by baddog

Try watching the entire video instead of one screen capture

lets just believe for a second they were encircled by a mob and they were indeed scared..

why would you pepper spray the only people sitting on the ground not moving ? wouldn't common sense say to pepper spray the people doing the "encircling"

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11-20-2011, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by TheSquealer

If you want to peaceably assemble, you apply for the appropriate permits, you use the appropriate venues, you follow the law and you do your thing.

The larger problem is, you should not need a permit to protest, so long as you are on public property, or your own.

I know in this case it was private property, but I'm speaking generally. Public property in any city, at any time, should be fair game for a protest.
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11-21-2011, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by TheSquealer

At the end of the day, Americans will side with law and order over chaos. Thats always been the case.

He's right. Americans definitely always settle for law and order over chaos.

The Boston Tea Party was a shining example of law and order over chaos.

Squealer is a genius and is always right.

Anyway, back to reality. The students where all wearing jackets. It was a cool day in the mid 50's [Fahrenheit]... water would have been a lot more humane. Sitting there soaking wet from water in that temperature for too long and the protesters could look forward to a nasty cold as a result.

But using pepper spray against defiant, seated arm-lockers... THOSE OUT OF FUCKING CONTROL LAWLESS STUDENTS!!... I could see why the police felt so threatened. I am surprised with the intelligence shown by typical American police these days that the video did not show a student losing his head to a .20 gauge shotgun blast after raising up a deadly weapon in a threatening manner (holding a school book in front of him to shield against the pepper spray)

I am going to start celebrating when it heats up in America from the tension. There is a lot more on the horizon in consideration of the economy and gross misconduct of government policy makers, and the first video we see on youtube showing a cop in riot gear getting his head stomped in will be a day I have a big smile on my face.

Correct me if I am wrong, people can no longer enjoy clove cigarettes in the US because some minor (under 18) MIGHT enjoy the flavor after scoring one in violation of US laws pertaining to cigarette sales to minors? Waaaaahahaha, America is the laughing stock of the planet these days.
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11-21-2011, 05:21 AM

People are missing a lot of background info on this UC Davis situation, and making general anti-protester remarks which are off base.

The students had a scheduled, permitted, organized protest a week earlier to this at the same place, where police violently beat protesters AND teachers. People got seriously hurt.

The students were there protesting police brutality from a week earlier.
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11-21-2011, 05:21 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

lets just believe for a second they were encircled by a mob and they were indeed scared..

why would you pepper spray the only people sitting on the ground not moving ? wouldn't common sense say to pepper spray the people doing the "encircling"

Well the people in the video surrounding the police all looked like photographers and people holding video cameras. FAR TOO DANGEROUS for even the police to go up against a well armed out of control mob like that!
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11-21-2011, 05:38 AM

Typical PIG!

It would not surprise me if protesters start arming themselves in the future if shit like this continues.

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11-21-2011, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by Camguy

He's right. Americans definitely always settle for law and order over chaos.

The Boston Tea Party was a shining example of law and order over chaos.

Squealer is a genius and is always right.

Really? You are pointing to a time where there was no America and an event in a British Colony as an example of "Americans"?

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11-21-2011, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by DWB

The larger problem is, you should not need a permit to protest, so long as you are on public property, or your own.

I know in this case it was private property, but I'm speaking generally. Public property in any city, at any time, should be fair game for a protest.

The reason for rules and laws is to protect EVERYONES rights, including those who might be affected by the protest adversely.

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11-21-2011, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by Camguy

I am going to start celebrating when it heats up in America from the tension. There is a lot more on the horizon in consideration of the economy and gross misconduct of government policy makers, and the first video we see on youtube showing a cop in riot gear getting his head stomped in will be a day I have a big smile on my face.

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11-21-2011, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by TheSquealer

No such right has been violated.

If you want to peaceably assemble, you apply for the appropriate permits, you use the appropriate venues, you follow the law and you do your thing.

No worries.

The First Amendment does not give you the right to break the law and do what you wish in the name of "protesting against the government" and it doesn't mean that applicable laws suddenly cease to exist.

You're good. Can you also try and argue why SOPA is good?
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11-21-2011, 07:02 AM

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You're good. Can you also try and argue why SOPA is good?

Some soups are good. Some not so good. Could you be more specific?

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11-21-2011, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by DWB

The larger problem is, you should not need a permit to protest, so long as you are on public property, or your own.

I know in this case it was private property, but I'm speaking generally. Public property in any city, at any time, should be fair game for a protest.

No, you should have a permit to protest on public property. Public property belongs to everyone, not just a small group of protesters. It has little to do with protesting and everything to do with everyone being able to use public space fairly.

For example, we have a very large park here in my hometown - football field, baseball diamonds, picnic area, play area, pool, and a public hall. On weekends parents arrive early to stake and out "occupy" picnic tables for birthday parties - There's only a dozen of them, and it's first come first serve. There should really be some kind of permit process in place so this is fair to everyone.

The local city union employees union went on strike in my hometown recently. They protested outside of city hall, which was appropriate. Every morning from 9am until noon they walked around with their signs. The city assigned a single police officer to the picketing, which was comical - because the cop just sat around drinking coffee with them. They didn't need to link arms and prevent the general public from entering city hall; They still got their message across.

Protest all you want. Just relax a little. Get your message across without stupidity.

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11-21-2011, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Socks

People are missing a lot of background info on this UC Davis situation, and making general anti-protester remarks which are off base.

The students had a scheduled, permitted, organized protest a week earlier to this at the same place, where police violently beat protesters AND teachers. People got seriously hurt.

The students were there protesting police brutality from a week earlier.

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11-21-2011, 09:20 AM

Its always funny to see tea party supporters who are about limited government argue about how you should need a permit to protest. Irony.
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11-21-2011, 09:53 AM

People need govts permission to protest against the govt....the twisted logic of batshit crazies.
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11-21-2011, 10:03 AM

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People need govts permission to protest against the govt....the twisted logic of batshit crazies.

In a way, that is kind of twisted. It's kind of like saying "We want to protest the government to complain, but we have to tell the government we plan on doing this in advance".

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11-21-2011, 10:12 AM

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11-21-2011, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by epitome

Its always funny to see tea party supporters who are about limited government argue about how you should need a permit to protest. Irony.

it's always funny to see that if you disagree with anyone on GFY in a political discussion, you are automatically a supporter of a bunch of fringe lunatics ;)

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11-21-2011, 10:17 AM

doubt they gave out permits in tahir square.
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11-21-2011, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by ThunderBalls

People need govts permission to protest against the govt....the twisted logic of batshit crazies.

What twisted logic? Its the law. People need to follow the law when they do anything. No news there. Laws are there to protect everyone's rights, not just those who want to protest something.

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11-21-2011, 10:20 AM

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doubt they gave out permits in tahir square.

I'm all for people breaking the law to protest... i'm just not for pretending to be shocked and surprised when the police step in to remove them in accordance with the law or for breaking the law.

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11-21-2011, 10:43 AM

When you look at this "john Pike" guy, it's easy to understand exactly the type of guy he is. He wears jack boots around the house, and is always strapped with his trusty Colt 1911 .45, even when he's making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich ( because his mom is tired of doing it). There's also a large cache of Guns and Ammo in his bedroom. The magazine, and the real thing.

and all of his underwear has a desert camo print.

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11-21-2011, 10:55 AM

I just saw an interview with one of the "peppered" students on CNN.

Brooke Baldwin(hottie) asked this naive young girl why she didn't get up when the police asked, and her answer was something like: "I'm lucky enough to live in a country where civil disobedience and political dissent is encouraged".

I think she may have things a little twisted. This is what happens when colleges program kids to be raging liberals. They have a giant list of things to complain about before they've even gone out into the world and tried to raise kids, or keep a roof over their heads without mommy and daddy's help. Let's see how empathetic and socially aware she is after she's spent a few years working to pay down her school and credit card debt, or get that car she likes.

I'm still a supporter of OWS, but these kids crack me up.

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11-21-2011, 10:59 AM

the parents of these neo-hippies must be proud.

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11-21-2011, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by TheSquealer

it's always funny to see that if you disagree with anyone on GFY in a political discussion, you are automatically a supporter of a bunch of fringe lunatics ;)

Did I say TheSquealer? Of course not, but you can't deny there are folks like that here.
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11-21-2011, 11:25 AM

Most departments only allow pepper spray use in certain circumstances I believe, and this is not one of those circumstances. If it is, it shouldn't be. This ugly fat fuck should be dealt with just like if he were a regular guy who went haywire and sprayed some people. It's assault and he belongs in jail, not on leave and certainly not on the streets.

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11-21-2011, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by bronco67

I just saw an interview with one of the "peppered" students on CNN.

Brooke Baldwin(hottie) asked this naive young girl why she didn't get up when the police asked, and her answer was something like: "I'm lucky enough to live in a country where civil disobedience and political dissent is encouraged".

I think she may have things a little twisted. This is what happens when colleges program kids to be raging liberals. They have a giant list of things to complain about before they've even gone out into the world and tried to raise kids, or keep a roof over their heads without mommy and daddy's help. Let's see how empathetic and socially aware she is after she's spent a few years working to pay down her school and credit card debt, or get that car she likes.

I'm still a supporter of OWS, but these kids crack me up.

Just because they are college students does not mean they don't know the difference between right and wrong or that our politicans work for donors and not the people.

Would the message be different if it were delivered by a small business owner who is a respected member of his community? No.

You fell for an old media trick.
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11-21-2011, 11:34 AM

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The children were told to remove their tents.
The children were told to leave the area.
The children were told they would be arrested.
The children were told they would be pepper sprayed.

The children were pepper sprayed, the children were arrested, the children left the area in handcuffs, and the children had their tents removed. Children will be children.

so if a cop told you he had to have sex with your wife while he burns your house down, you would comply ?

of course not.. because people don't comply with unlawfull orders unless they are sheep.

"The president of the University of California system said he was "appalled" at images of protesters being doused with pepper spray and plans an assessment of law enforcement procedures on all 10 campuses, as the police chief and two officers were placed on administrative leave.

"Free speech is part of the DNA of this university, and non-violent protest has long been central to our history," UC President Mark G. Yudof said in a statement Sunday in response to the spraying of students sitting passively at UC Davis. "It is a value we must protect with vigilance."

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11-21-2011, 11:38 AM

watch for this bitch to be ousted by the end of the week

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11-21-2011, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by epitome

Did I say TheSquealer? Of course not, but you can't deny there are folks like that here.

My bad. But now that i just just get you to say my name... is there anyway I can get you to do it again and pull my hair at the same time?

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11-21-2011, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by epitome

Just because they are college students does not mean they don't know the difference between right and wrong . . .

They do know the difference between right and wrong. Who suggested a college student would not?

Originally posted by adendreams

watch for this bitch to be ousted by the end of the week

great video, great response

Watched it. What is so great about it and what "response" are you talking about?
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11-21-2011, 12:00 PM

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watch for this bitch to be ousted by the end of the week

great video, great response

damn she just got the chill bone right up her arse...great video.

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11-21-2011, 12:14 PM

OK, the footpath in the front of YOUR HOUSE is PUBLIC PROPERTY.

What if 50 hippies pitch 50 tents there for say... 6 months!

The police ask them to move on. THEY DON'T.

Public Property is SHARED PROPERTY - you can't pitch a tent and squat there!

Pepper spray is ideal to dissolve the situation from potential harm.

You simply can't disobey police face to face.

You can't do it on your own.

You can't do it with a few mates.

You might THINK YOU CAN DO IT in a crowd of 50 disobedients

but YOU are escalating the problem, not the police.

When police say DISPERSE it's for a reason!
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11-21-2011, 12:22 PM

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11-21-2011, 12:26 PM

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but YOU are escalating the problem, not the police.

When police say DISPERSE it's for a reason!

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