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11-19-2011, 02:15 PM

So I own a blog network of about 50 or so blogs each on their own domain and I have a question about network traffic. Right now I get around 3,000-3,200 uniques a day to my blog network (around 90% search engine traffic) and I'm wondering if I should be getting more? It's an average of 60 uniques per blog and the range for each blog goes from 25/uniques per day all the way up to 200/uniques per day.

I see a lot of people post stats of some of their blogs here and they're getting 500+ visitors, sometimes 1,000/visitors to some of their blogs and I'm just wondering is that a normal amount and my blogs just aren't getting enough? Are there good ways to improve my SE traffic? Does adding more posts help you get more visitors?

Am I doing okay traffic wise or should I be getting a lot more?

Right now I try to add 1 post/per month to each blog and add a couple more per month to the blogs that are doing better and making more sales. I'm also link trading to each one using Link Spun.
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11-19-2011, 02:17 PM

I would pick one "good" blog and feed that from your network. Build up your one blog so that it ranks well, it's good repeat traffic, and can convert sponsors on a regular basis. I would not worry about the network as a whole so much, use it as a feeding device for both traffic and back link purposes.

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11-19-2011, 02:19 PM

And what I would do is listen to Sly.

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11-19-2011, 02:23 PM

some blogs get 50,000-100,000 k a day and that is mainly built up by trading plugs, gallery plugs and toplist trades.
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11-19-2011, 02:25 PM

and what i would do is listen to sly and stocktrader23

keeping your "less important" blogs updated will help your main blog as well as your traffic as a whole.

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11-19-2011, 02:31 PM

The real question is how many joins a day are they doing.
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11-19-2011, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by dropped9

The real question is how many joins a day are they doing.

I disagree. That's short-term thinking.

The real question is: what are you trying to build?

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11-19-2011, 02:35 PM

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I disagree. That's short-term thinking.

The real question is: what are you trying to build?

Why would it be short term? What is he more concerned with? Traffic or sales? I can have 1 million hits and do 2 sale or I can have 100 hits and make 5 sales. It's not just a traffic game and knowing where and how many sales are coming from what methods helps one determine how to crank the sales up.
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11-19-2011, 02:37 PM

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Why would it be short term? What is he more concerned with? Traffic or sales? I can have 1 million hits and do 2 sale or I can have 100 hits and make 5 sales. It's not just a traffic game and knowing where and how many sales are coming from what methods helps one determine how to crank the sales up.

Sometimes traffic is more important in the beginning. Hell, a lot of times traffic is more important in the beginning.

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11-19-2011, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by dropped9

Why would it be short term? What is he more concerned with? Traffic or sales? I can have 1 million hits and do 2 sale or I can have 100 hits and make 5 sales. It's not just a traffic game and knowing where and how many sales are coming from what methods helps one determine how to crank the sales up.

I already stated what he should be concerned about.

What are you trying to build?

Sales today are nice but they mean nothing. You need to be building to the point you want to be in a year from now. You can worry about your handful of sales today (and there's no shame in that) or you can focus on the big picture of one year, two years from now where you have a solid network that forces traffic AND sales where ever you want.

The "results based" mentality of today will kill the true revenue potential of tomorrow. Build.

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11-19-2011, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Sly

I would pick one "good" blog and feed that from your network. Build up your one blog so that it ranks well, it's good repeat traffic, and can convert sponsors on a regular basis. I would not worry about the network as a whole so much, use it as a feeding device for both traffic and back link purposes.

Thanks, that's some good advice and I will try this out. Also, I appreciate everyone elses replies as well!
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11-19-2011, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by dropped9

Why would it be short term? What is he more concerned with? Traffic or sales? I can have 1 million hits and do 2 sale or I can have 100 hits and make 5 sales. It's not just a traffic game and knowing where and how many sales are coming from what methods helps one determine how to crank the sales up.

Its about defining goals, objectives, planning, determining how to measure success based on your stated objectives and being able to effectively measure progress or failure. Short term and long term demand different approaches.

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11-19-2011, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by dropped9

The real question is how many joins a day are they doing.

They are making sales, not a lot, but enough to know that I'm doing something right. My problem right now is I'm spread out on a lot of sponsors which is a pain in the ass when it comes to making minimum payout (especially when the conversions STOP and you're stuck). For the past month I have been concentrating on CCBill Sponsor blogs because at least with CCBill the payouts are constant and it helps me from getting discouraged (although I'm not to impressed with some of the ccbill ratios).

Anyways, as time goes on my blogs do start to receive more traffic and more signups so I do realize that the age of blogs play a big role as well. It just sucks to see some stats posted here of whales doing a million signups a day with little effort and then I open up Nifty Stats and be like . The advice I get from GFY helps out a lot though, there's some great people here that always seem willing to help.
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11-19-2011, 02:58 PM

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They are making sales, not a lot, but enough to know that I'm doing something right. My problem right now is I'm spread out on a lot of sponsors which is a pain in the ass when it comes to making minimum payout (especially when the conversions STOP and you're stuck). For the past month I have been concentrating on CCBill Sponsor blogs because at least with CCBill the payouts are constant and it helps me from getting discouraged (although I'm not to impressed with some of the ccbill ratios).

Anyways, as time goes on my blogs do start to receive more traffic and more signups so I do realize that the age of blogs play a big role as well. It just sucks to see some stats posted here of whales doing a million signups a day with little effort and then I open up Nifty Stats and be like . The advice I get from GFY helps out a lot though, there's some great people here that always seem willing to help.

I tried contacting you on ICQ awhile back but did not connect. Do you use ICQ? I would like to speak with you about a couple different methods that I think would be beneficial to you.

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11-19-2011, 03:06 PM

I would bet money on most of those being rss rather than handwritten blogs. If they are handwritten then you're doing something wrong.
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11-19-2011, 03:17 PM

how are you getting traffic to them? what is your strategy?
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11-19-2011, 03:18 PM

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I would bet money on most of those being rss rather than handwritten blogs. If they are handwritten then you're doing something wrong.

Nope, all of them are hand-written, as I stated in the original post I add posts manually every month, why would I do that if they were RSS fed and I could have them update automatically? At this point I assume it's most likely because all of them are only a few months old and need time to age (With each Panda update my traffic is increasing) and using them to feed my main ones as Sly and others have said to do.
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11-19-2011, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Sly

I tried contacting you on ICQ awhile back but did not connect. Do you use ICQ? I would like to speak with you about a couple different methods that I think would be beneficial to you.

I haven't used ICQ in forever, I'll be getting a new ICQ# soon and will hit you up...appreciate the offer to help.
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11-19-2011, 03:21 PM

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how are you getting traffic to them? what is your strategy?

I have just been relying all on SE traffic. I pretty much look forward to every Panda update because my traffic increases heavily with each one. I haven't really bothered to purchase any traffic for them although I have though about maybe buying some ads using Juicy Ads or something.
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11-19-2011, 05:08 PM

parking my ass here. and listening.

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11-19-2011, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by anexsia

Nope, all of them are hand-written, as I stated in the original post I add posts manually every month, why would I do that if they were RSS fed and I could have them update automatically? At this point I assume it's most likely because all of them are only a few months old and need time to age (With each Panda update my traffic is increasing) and using them to feed my main ones as Sly and others have said to do.

how many posts do you add each month? (assuming you're setting future posts)

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11-19-2011, 05:33 PM

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Thank me later.

I haven't clue if you're MS or adult, but if you're MS, focus on your main sites to boost the PR first before you worrying about more quality traffic. As much as people think PR is irrelevant, it's VERY relevant for AdSence CPC revenues.

hey in that what are the xrumer links pointing to there?

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11-19-2011, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Jesus H Christ

Thank me later.

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11-19-2011, 06:32 PM

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@porno jew - Free Blogs/Blog

ok thanks saw the free blogs labelled. and didn't know what the squares the xrumer links were aimed at were.
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11-19-2011, 06:46 PM

From the sounds of things, they're all just smaller blogs / sites? Setup a few higher-end money sites, and use your existing network as feeders.

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11-19-2011, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by Kiopa_Matt

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where the hell were you 2 years ago when i was custom coding all this?!

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11-19-2011, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by Jesus H Christ

Thank me later.

I haven't clue if you're MS or adult, but if you're MS, focus on your main sites to boost the PR first before you worrying about more quality traffic. As much as people think PR is irrelevant, it's VERY relevant for AdSense CPC revenues.

Thanks Jesus lol and haven't had a problem with PR yet, my blogs range from PR1-PR3. I do adult...was thinking about mainstream but I have more fun making adult blogs.
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11-20-2011, 02:39 AM

Interesting thread.

Sly has been spot on in each post.

When did you start and how can you be certain as to whether or not your traffic increases were due to Panda?

Seems like it would be hard to tell with a relatively new and rapidly expanding network.

Also the updates have seemed to favor sites with more depth, this last one increased the weight on update frequency, and both trends are expected to continue.

How are your bounce rates, time spent, and # page views?

If you're getting 90% search traffic across 50 domains, I wouldn't worry about doing link exchanges right now. You have the means to interlink your own sites for seo benefits, the traffic from link exchanges will likely not be nearly as targeted and you'll just be diluting your own traffic quality.
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11-20-2011, 06:47 AM

Xrumer links really help your SEO ??? please answer this Jesus H Christ.
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11-20-2011, 07:28 AM

The questions are:
- What niches are your blogs?
- How they rank in Google?
- What is conversion rates of your pages?

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11-20-2011, 07:34 AM

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The questions are:
- How they rank in Google?

Good point. Getting 100 uniques on page 2 of a frequently searched term is a lot different than getting 100 uniques from having the top spot on a rarely searched keyword.
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11-20-2011, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by anexsia

I have just been relying all on SE traffic. I pretty much look forward to every Panda update because my traffic increases heavily with each one. I haven't really bothered to purchase any traffic for them although I have though about maybe buying some ads using Juicy Ads or something.

Oh, there my traffic goes, now I know....just kidding, check your email please.

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11-20-2011, 08:29 AM

ms network? what's that mean?

Originally posted by Jesus H Christ

You need to setup a MS network now man. Besides, good domains are cheap as hell due to the economy. As my time is more valuable elsewhere, these networks sit idol as the niche generates good profits when the economy is good. BUT in my spare time I update these sites and primarily focus on getting a higher PR.

Meaning, taking a PR3 blog to a PR5 is tough work with little profit, but you won't draw attention to yourself now. This way in the near future as the economy improves, so does your ad sales, as your competitors soon discover you're entrenched.

So I also agree with sly.. it's time to buy and build, buy and build. etc
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11-20-2011, 08:50 AM

Microsoft Network? I don't know also, and forgot to ask.

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11-20-2011, 09:23 AM

Mainstream, newbies.

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11-20-2011, 09:28 AM

Can someone answer me? Xrumer blasts are good for an adult blog?
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11-20-2011, 09:51 AM

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Can someone answer me? Xrumer blasts are good for an adult blog?

Yes, they're excellent. Make sure to blast your money site.

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11-20-2011, 10:01 AM

This will not affect my keyword ranking right?
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11-20-2011, 10:12 AM

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This will not affect my keyword ranking right?

Don't listen to him. He's just being a cunt.
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11-20-2011, 10:20 AM

Well i tought so, black seo isn't that good.
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11-20-2011, 10:24 AM

just sitting down and listening... don't mind me.....

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11-20-2011, 10:25 AM

Jesus just handed you a tried and true map. Just because something is difficult doesn't mean it's bad. The people who are making the most money right now are neck deep in blackhat SEO.

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11-20-2011, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by jimmycooper

Interesting thread.

Sly has been spot on in each post.

When did you start and how can you be certain as to whether or not your traffic increases were due to Panda?

Seems like it would be hard to tell with a relatively new and rapidly expanding network.

Also the updates have seemed to favor sites with more depth, this last one increased the weight on update frequency, and both trends are expected to continue.

How are your bounce rates, time spent, and # page views?

If you're getting 90% search traffic across 50 domains, I wouldn't worry about doing link exchanges right now. You have the means to interlink your own sites for seo benefits, the traffic from link exchanges will likely not be nearly as targeted and you'll just be diluting your own traffic quality.

I say that my traffic boosts were from Panda because for example, 10 of my blogs were only doing about 20-30 visitors a day and they were maybe only 1-2 months old...then right after the news started coming in that Google was doing a Panda update, those 20-30 visits shot up to a steady 80-90 visitors and with every panda update the traffic on my network just increases drastically and has stayed steady....that's not to say that Google can't slap my sites at any time and bring the traffic back down but for right now it seems I'm doing something right in Google's eyes.

My bounce ratio hovers between 35-45%. I will try to post a few stat screens later on just to show the overrall growth. I mean I'm happy with the way my network is growing don't get me wrong, I just didn't know if I could be potentially doing better with my network.
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11-20-2011, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by anexsia

I say that my traffic boosts were from Panda because for example, 10 of my blogs were only doing about 20-30 visitors a day and they were maybe only 1-2 months old...then right after the news started coming in that Google was doing a Panda update, those 20-30 visits shot up to a steady 80-90 visitors and with every panda update the traffic on my network just increases drastically and has stayed steady....that's not to say that Google can't slap my sites at any time and bring the traffic back down but for right now it seems I'm doing something right in Google's eyes.

My bounce ratio hovers between 35-45%. I will try to post a few stat screens later on just to show the overrall growth. I mean I'm happy with the way my network is growing don't get me wrong, I just didn't know if I could be potentially doing better with my network.

That's actually a really good bounce rate. All the more reason to stay away from linkspun b/c most of that traffic will decrease bounce.
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11-20-2011, 11:05 AM

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That's actually a really good bounce rate. All the more reason to stay away from linkspun b/c most of that traffic will decrease bounce.

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11-20-2011, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Babaganoosh

Jesus just handed you a tried and true map. Just because something is difficult doesn't mean it's bad. The people who are making the most money right now are neck deep in blackhat SEO.

Shit $8 domain with a similar technique making $3500 a month. It works.

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11-20-2011, 11:24 AM

I've sent email to you regarding those stats on: nlei_ [email protected]

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11-20-2011, 11:50 AM

Something that people always seem over look as SE traffic shouldn't be the only source you aim for.

I used to install free trade scripts on my blogs and I traded traffic on them with other sites in my networks via clicked top lists.

IMO even with blogs you should always try to generate your own traffic aside from search engines.

I used to use a few sites that looked more like baelogs to trade traffic with sites outside my network and then I'd filter the traffic to my blogs from those.

I also used to have a few straight up top list sites for moving traffic around my network.

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11-20-2011, 12:32 PM

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is their any advice you give that isn't complete garbage?

Yeah, if you want to avoid the long lines at Zabars and H&H every Saturday, go as early as possible. I mean like really, really early. Remember, Hasids cannot take an elevator when they leave their co-op buildings on shabbos. Nor can they take a taxi to Zabars. So, if you leave early, you'll get a nice head start.

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