i am looking tor chattraffic

CamsiteCash.Com is not looking for chat traffic? LOL

nah, not for the site.
it's for the new 30 min live webcam show.
i want these little chattraffic-ers to sell tickets.
the tickets are cheap, and i hope this way we wont have CBs, but sell a lot of tickets

Since you are aware of CB's let me give you a hint of being a chatters and a cheater. They have bunch of CC's and they give it to their client and use it don't you think it wont result as CB? Beware of them.

I have known some few group of chatter which I work with before. shoot me an email support at japzmedia dot com so I can hook them up!

thanks, i appreciate your help. i have added you on skype.

Thanks! Got your reply!

You should of started your post title with

"Hi Sir...."

;)

yeah i know
and i know its a risk, but since there are so many sites who ban them, maybe they will appreciate this opportunity and play a fair game..

i mean the reason legit members get frustrtated and dissapointed with these philippine chat traffic-ers is that they are being lied to.
whit this golden show they know what they are getting, the show is going to be performed by the model whos profile they see.. plus its a real bargain compared to the regular cam site prices..

so i really do have high hopes

but i am thinking of ways how to filter the cheaters - i still hope there are some true and honest ppl in the philippines despite their hello sirs and more powers

Enjoy your cc frauders.

When your CB's sky rocket and you lose your processing, I'll sit back and laugh.

ah thats real kind lace :D

despite all that i've read, i havent received any interest abt this post from the philippines
im half relieved, half dissapointed..

I've read everything here and still don't know what the fuck is going on.

Good luck?

well we have this new show type, a golden show, it costs $10 and it is 30 minutes long.
many members get to watch the camgirl at the same time, and she does what they ask.. its like a virtual gangbang
the dates and models are pre-announced, and members can buy tickets to each show before and durring the shows.
there are free vids of the model, and in the future they could watch the previous shows for a discounted price.

i was thinking since its so cheap and still an interesting and somewhat new sexual experience, chat traffic could be a way to promote it.
they could use the actual model's information, so the members wouldnt get dissapointed ( like they do with regular camsite chat traffic )
and i tought for $10 frauds won't bother..
i wasnt thinking abt the fake CC informations apperantly these philippine chat traffic-ers have.. and i guess its true they wont do it unless its pps

a) - I have no idea why everyone is acting like chat traffic is horrible. It was as productive as any other traffic and many here have made hundreds of thousands / millions on it.

b) - $10 isn't really cheap, you can go catch a show on Streammate for $2 now. You can watch free ones on various websites.

c) - What does fake CC information have to do with chat traffic? Fake CC information could be used regardless of traffic source.

d) - Everyone keeps talking about Filipinos. Is there some giant Filipino ring of chat traffickers now or something?

I'm still lost.

$2 for 30 min?
omg

I've seen 6 minutes, 12 minutes and 2 hours for $2. You're in the cam business, should know what the competition is doing.

so unless i know everything i should just shut up?

No but it looked like you were being sarcastic. I told you where $2 shows were going on, you could have checked?

Potential carding is a problem but it is not your biggest problem.

Here is the thing: Chat traffic is harder to generate every day. The cost of getting a customer willing to sign up with a credit card is pretty high now. No chatter is going to send that customer to a program paying $10. Most can barely scrape up one customer a week.

Well, a few might, but not enough to be worth your while.

If the $10 is a trial that is supposed to convert into a full membership at some point then you can bet on a conversion rate of less than 30% with chat traffic using a 3rd party biller like ccbill that makes only one or two attempts to convert and then drops the customer.

Then there's your chargebacks. The main driving force behind chargebacks in chat traffic (assuming carding is not a huge issue because your fraud filters are good) is buyer's remorse. This is 100% governed by the purchase price.

If the price of the full membership is 19.95 or less you are going to see chargebacks in the 2-4% range, plus any voluntary refunds and voids you issue. (if you don't have an open refund policy this could be higher)

If it's more than 19.95 but less than $30 your chargebacks will be in the 5-7% range, go over $40 and you are almost guaranteed to have chargebacks at around 10-12% and at least as many refunds again.

Here's the next problem: Chat agents are almost universally sending their customers who are dumb enough to sign up to a plethora of signup pages, telling them one program's signup page is a refund or cancellation request for the previous one and then a third will actually get them two refunds and whatever other bullshit the drunk idiot will believe when he is signing up. This kind of abuse will make your conversions almost zero because even though you are only charging $10, the other programs the chatter is shoving down the customers throat are pretty much going to town with the credit card and charging and cross-selling the fuck out of it. By the time you get around to converting, the bank has placed a hold on the card for suspicious activity.

So even if you can handle all of that you still need to find a biller that is willing to put up with that shit and there aren't many.

It's been a few years but I would bet my last dollar that chat traffic isn't hard to convert if you know what you're doing.

All the knowledge in the world is not going to be able to convert a code 51

I obviously do not have a clue what you are talking about because I don't see any reason to get unusual chargebacks, take someones card info, etc. Whatever, I give.

Well if it aint broke don't fix it right? If it's working for you keep it up, that's all I can say.

My comments are based solely on my own experience for the last 4 years but I have a lot to learn I am not going to deny it. I don't doubt that there are many people who can convert chat traffic, I do it every day but I screwed up a lot of relationships with billing companies and programs learning what I know.

Bottom line is I don't think the OP's idea is going to work for her or him or whatever and I laid out some of the reasons why.

Sorry I had not noticed your questions:

When Visa revised their rules in early 2009 the writing was on the wall for many of the larger programs running chat traffic. It seems very few lasted long after that and almost all of them either closed, pretended to close or made major changes including lower payouts.

True but chatters seem to attempt it more often - even when they dont they are often accused of it by remorseful surfers.


Yes, Filipinos are to chat traffic as Russians to hacking, Patels to gas stations and Mexicans to lawn mowing.

Part of selling those well is being flexible

Wait a sec... You guys use REAL PEOPLE to chat with surfers to get joins?

HAHAHAHAHA!! oh!! Oh my god!! I'm fucking dying here!, stop it!! HAHAHHAHA!!!

Chat traffic now-a-days = carders.

They want high PPS, short hold times on programs and to be paid by I guess paxum now. They get their money and run then you're stuck with all of the chargebacks.

Keep thinking what ever you want, but as I said, I'll sit back and laugh mumbling "Told ya so"

So fucking true. Guys with chat traffic NEVER go for revshare, because its all fraud traffic to begin with.


Wait, what am I saying?

Sorry i couldn't help you on this one!