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So how is XXX sunrise AD going for you?

11-11-2011, 12:21 PM

I applied for 13 xxx domains in the Sunrise AD(omain) period, ICM promised they would inform between Oct 28 and Nov 8 whether we could get these domains or not but we haven't heard anything from them yet. In our account all domains have a "valid application" comment next to them which seems to be good to me, so what are they waiting for? Of all domains except one we're the only ones owning the domains as TLDs.

Anyone else went through the Sunrise AD procedure and heard anything good or bad from ICM?
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11-11-2011, 12:26 PM

You actually fell for that shit?

Just like nobody wanted your .info, nobody will want your .XXX

Go ahead and give Lawley close to $1,300/yr or whatever it is. That could have bought you some good traffic.
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11-11-2011, 12:39 PM

I think I wasn't asking my question to those who think xxx sucks. That would be pretty pointless, wouldn't it?
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11-11-2011, 12:41 PM

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11-11-2011, 12:42 PM

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11-11-2011, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by epitome

Go ahead and give Lawley close to $1,300/yr or whatever it is. That could have bought you some good traffic.

I am not sure I have ever seen $1,300 in good traffic.
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11-11-2011, 12:58 PM

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I am not sure I have ever seen $1,300 in good traffic.

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11-11-2011, 01:17 PM

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I bet some go to "auction".

lol yeah. If they do that I'll hang myself
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11-11-2011, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by EukerVoorn

I applied for 13 xxx domains in the Sunrise AD(omain) period, ICM promised they would inform between Oct 28 and Nov 8 whether we could get these domains or not but we haven't heard anything from them yet. In our account all domains have a "valid application" comment next to them which seems to be good to me, so what are they waiting for? Of all domains except one we're the only ones owning the domains as TLDs.

Anyone else went through the Sunrise AD procedure and heard anything good or bad from ICM?

How much did it cost you to apply?

What a fucking racket. No refunds given if you dont get the domains and multiple registars accepting registrations.

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11-11-2011, 01:59 PM

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I am not sure I have ever seen $1,300 in good traffic.

Try google.com . You heard of em?

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11-11-2011, 02:04 PM

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I am not sure I have ever seen $1,300 in good traffic.

So programs just buy spots to spread the wealth?
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11-11-2011, 02:52 PM

I checked into this for you. Overwhelming demand has forced us to extend the period for the validation agent by a few weeks, but if your applications are showing as accepted, it should be fine.

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11-11-2011, 07:43 PM

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How much did it cost you to apply?

What a fucking racket. No refunds given if you dont get the domains and multiple registars accepting registrations.

Cost me like 1300 euro which is about $1850. And if they stick with their own rules, then according to the Sunrise AD rules, I should get these domains without a doubt because I'm the only one owning these domains in other TLDs.

And multiple registrars accepting registrations.... isn't it good then that there is only ONE registrar for .com domains then?

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11-11-2011, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by DotXXX

I checked into this for you. Overwhelming demand has forced us to extend the period for the validation agent by a few weeks, but if your applications are showing as accepted, it should be fine.

Ok thanks.
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11-11-2011, 07:56 PM

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I bet some go to "auction".

I would say that most of the good domains have numerous applications asking for them, so they will all be going to auction.

By pre-reg you will lose your application fee (with Godaddy its $100 bucks), but they will refund the domain fee if you don't get the domain.

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11-11-2011, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by EukerVoorn

lol yeah. If they do that I'll hang myself

80,000 domains were ordered i would get the rope ready

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11-11-2011, 08:13 PM

I have no interest. A domain is only what you make it.

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11-11-2011, 08:20 PM

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I have no interest. A domain is only what you make it.

exactly, and if you decide you want the domain your forced to battle at auction.

I waited to buy .asia domains once they opened it to the public, and was able to get great names. Of course now they are worthless and I have let them expire. I see the same scenario with .xxx

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11-11-2011, 11:45 PM

you can't afford renewing your xxx domains each year

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11-11-2011, 11:45 PM

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I checked into this for you. Overwhelming demand has forced us to extend the period for the validation agent by a few weeks, but if your applications are showing as accepted, it should be fine.

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11-12-2011, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by HandballJim

exactly, and if you decide you want the domain your forced to battle at auction.

I waited to buy .asia domains once they opened it to the public, and was able to get great names. Of course now they are worthless and I have let them expire. I see the same scenario with .xxx

dont you think that they will ban porn on all outer extensions so people are forced to use .xxx

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11-12-2011, 01:35 AM

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dont you think that they will ban porn on all outer extensions so people are forced to use .xxx

who are "they" ?
banning porn on all other tld's won't ever happen.

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11-12-2011, 01:42 AM

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I have no interest. A domain is only what you make it.

Wrong.

The extension will be what the authorities and google make of them. If THEY decide, the .xxx will be a giant moneymaker.
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11-12-2011, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by xxxupdate

dont you think that they will ban porn on all outer extensions so people are forced to use .xxx

No, but even if they banned it, it would be impossible to enforce.

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11-12-2011, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by epitome

So programs just buy spots to spread the wealth?

Buying spots and buying traffic are not one in the same. But be that as it may, what kind of good spot could you get for $1,300? For how long?
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11-12-2011, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by xxxupdate

dont you think that they will ban porn on all outer extensions so people are forced to use .xxx

Who and how?
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11-12-2011, 09:17 PM

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Buying spots and buying traffic are not one in the same. But be that as it may, what kind of good spot could you get for $1,300? For how long?

Exactly. I tried to explain this to someone once by saying you get 325,000 visitors on webcam traffic for $1300. Back then if I were selling webcam traffic I would give you about 2,000 hits. Why? Because that is what I made on it sending it to a sponsor.

In theory you could sell good traffic for a little under what you'd make sending it to your own sites and avoid the headache of running something. In practice people sell hundreds of thousands or millions of hits that are absolute shit. Then you get into companies like GTS that try to sell their traffic to AFFILIATES. If an affiliate can make money sending your traffic directly to a sponsor then why the fuck wouldn't you just send your traffic to a sponsor to make more?

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11-12-2011, 10:25 PM

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Wrong.

The extension will be what the authorities and google make of them. If THEY decide, the .xxx will be a giant moneymaker.

It will be a money maker for the same people who can make money on .com. .XXX isn't a magic domain that will make money for people. Those who fail on .com will still fail on .XXX, regardless of if that tld gets special treatment or not.

And if sometime down the road the "authorities" decide we can no longer use .com (which I doubt will happen), then there will still be 100s of 1000s of .XXX to choose from, and then it will be what you make of it, like I said.
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11-12-2011, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by xxxupdate

dont you think that they will ban porn on all outer extensions so people are forced to use .xxx

And if they do, everyone moves to .XXX. As much as that would suck, we'd deal with it just like we deal with everything else, and we'd all race to try to fuck each other in the process. Technology adapts.
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11-13-2011, 04:32 AM

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11-13-2011, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by EukerVoorn

I think I wasn't asking my question to those who think xxx sucks. That would be pretty pointless, wouldn't it?

so you came to GFY? I am afraid you're not going to run into too many helpful folks here regarding .XXX

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I checked into this for you. Overwhelming demand has forced us to extend the period for the validation agent by a few weeks, but if your applications are showing as accepted, it should be fine.

Here is a thought, why don't you just post an announcement on the site making sure people know that you are overwhelmed and extending the period... huh? wouldnt that have been helpful to your customers instead of them just sitting there waiting for some nugget of information to come from you?

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dont you think that they will ban porn on all outer extensions so people are forced to use .xxx

No matter how much you want a thing to happen does not mean that thing is going to happen.... great scare tactic though. Props on the deep thought you put into it
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11-13-2011, 08:48 AM

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And if they do, everyone moves to .XXX. As much as that would suck, we'd deal with it just like we deal with everything else, and we'd all race to try to fuck each other in the process. Technology adapts.

thats true but if they will dictate how business is done, what makes you think that other things won't change. Maybe .xxx hosting might cost you more, maybe the IRS will tax you a differently, maybe you will need to be on a public list, etc.

I still think this is something that cannot be monitored since who the hell is going to be able to look at every domain or website for adult content.

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11-14-2011, 01:46 PM

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Here is a thought, why don't you just post an announcement on the site making sure people know that you are overwhelmed and extending the period... huh? wouldnt that have been helpful to your customers instead of them just sitting there waiting for some nugget of information to come from you?

Noted and passed along when I originally responded, but I do appreciate the feedback.

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11-14-2011, 01:53 PM

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11-14-2011, 01:56 PM

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thats true but if they will dictate how business is done, what makes you think that other things won't change. Maybe .xxx hosting might cost you more, maybe the IRS will tax you a differently, maybe you will need to be on a public list, etc.

I still think this is something that cannot be monitored since who the hell is going to be able to look at every domain or website for adult content.

It is most likely gonna be like:

If we find 1 single time anything that is against 1 of the many thousends of rules they will implement you will be banned for life from buying a .XXX domain again.
In the meantime .XXX will be mandatory in the whole world.
So your whole business will be worthless at any time they choose to execute a stupid rule they come up with.

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11-14-2011, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Frank21

It is most likely gonna be like:

If we find 1 single time anything that is against 1 of the many thousends of rules they will implement you will be banned for life from buying a .XXX domain again.
In the meantime .XXX will be mandatory in the whole world.
So your whole business will be worthless at any time they choose to execute a stupid rule they come up with.

Don't you think that's just a little bit far reaching? As of right now the two key policies are relatively simple. No content that makes pedobear happy, and sites must be labeled (which is done automatically).

It is doubtful that .XXX will ever become mandatory, and ICM certainly isn't doing anything to even promote that as an idea.

What I really have a difficult time understanding is "So your whole business will be worthless at any time they choose to execute a stupid rule they come up with." Don't you think that the very idea, that a for-profit business would ever even consider intentionally doing anything to directly disenfranchise it's customer base, to be just a little bit ridiculous?

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11-14-2011, 02:31 PM

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who are "they" ?
banning porn on all other tld's won't ever happen.

However, I can see dot xxx being banned by many ISPs, states, countries, etc..

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11-14-2011, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Wizzo

However, I can see dot xxx being banned by many ISPs, states, countries, etc..

It's possible, but that applies to all porn on all domain extensions.

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11-14-2011, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by DotXXX

Don't you think that's just a little bit far reaching? As of right now the two key policies are relatively simple. No content that makes pedobear happy, and sites must be labeled (which is done automatically).

It is doubtful that .XXX will ever become mandatory, and ICM certainly isn't doing anything to even promote that as an idea.

What I really have a difficult time understanding is "So your whole business will be worthless at any time they choose to execute a stupid rule they come up with." Don't you think that the very idea, that a for-profit business would ever even consider intentionally doing anything to directly disenfranchise it's customer base, to be just a little bit ridiculous?

no it is not far reaching at all... it is drawing something out to an end that is a possibility even if it is a denied probability.
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11-14-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by spazlabz

no it is not far reaching at all... it is drawing something out to an end that is a possibility even if it is a denied probability.

To what end? How would this scenario benefit ICM or it's customers?

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11-14-2011, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by DotXXX

Don't you think that's just a little bit far reaching? As of right now the two key policies are relatively simple. No content that makes pedobear happy, and sites must be labeled (which is done automatically).

It is doubtful that .XXX will ever become mandatory, and ICM certainly isn't doing anything to even promote that as an idea.

What I really have a difficult time understanding is "So your whole business will be worthless at any time they choose to execute a stupid rule they come up with."

Uhm no thats not ridiculous if you study governments and globalist companies then you kow thats exactly whats gonna happen.
They always lure you with good rules and slowly implement more and more regulations which will dictate everything you do.
Just like google, facebook, "democracy" etc etc.

Thats why we have top stop this madness before it can be made mandatory indeed.
Do us all a favour and stop your scam!

What IS ridiculous is that you state yourself that your policys "FOR NOW" are this and that but you do know you will change this rules as soon as enough people have signed up for it.

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11-14-2011, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Wizzo

However, I can see dot xxx being banned by many ISPs, states, countries, etc..

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11-14-2011, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by Frank21

Uhm no thats not ridiculous if you study governments and globalist companies then you kow thats exactly whats gonna happen.
They always lure you with good rules and slowly implement more and more regulations which will dictate everything you do.
Just like google, facebook, "democracy" etc etc.

Thats why we have top stop this madness before it can be made mandatory indeed.
Do us all a favour and stop your scam!

What IS ridiculous is that you state yourself that your policys "FOR NOW" are this and that but you do know you will change this rules as soon as enough people have signed up for it.

Please forgive me for laughing at your inclusion of "democracy." You were kidding right?

Yes, I do state that those policies are "for now." For example, IFFOR still needs to come to a determination for procedure if existing policies are violated. That in itself will eventually have to become part of policy. It does not however, mean that random policies will be enacted that will be detrimental to ICM and disenfranchise its customers. That would be to no ones benefit.

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11-14-2011, 04:49 PM

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11-14-2011, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by CyberHustler

Shit is all fucked up

That is a really tough statement to try to add anything helpful to. ;)

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11-14-2011, 05:11 PM

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Please forgive me for laughing at your inclusion of "democracy." You were kidding right?

Yes, I do state that those policies are "for now." For example, IFFOR still needs to come to a determination for procedure if existing policies are violated. That in itself will eventually have to become part of policy. It does not however, mean that random policies will be enacted that will be detrimental to ICM and disenfranchise its customers. That would be to no ones benefit.

No how can that be a joke?
We are being tricked in democracy and we get to vote, and slowly but by pre planned plan the system is becoming a dictatorship. While you still can vote your vote doesnt mean anything the system does whatever you want and whatever you vote.

It is very clear just by your intentions that you do want .XXX to become mandatory whatever you say does not matter since you and your organisation speaks with a double toung.

You say you THINK .XXX will not be mandatory therefore using this as argument isnt valid.
However you or your organisation states that it will be easy for parents to block porn by simply blocking .XXX sites on a PC, network or country.
Now this has totaly no use as only a small part of the sites is actualy on this .XXX extention.

So either you lie that you do not think .XXX will be mandatory or you lie by stating that anyone can block porn by blocking .XXX.

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11-14-2011, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Frank21

No how can that be a joke?
We are being tricked in democracy and we get to vote, and slowly but by pre planned plan the system is becoming a dictatorship. While you still can vote your vote doesnt mean anything the system does whatever you want and whatever you vote.

It is very clear just by your intentions that you do want .XXX to become mandatory whatever you say does not matter since you and your organisation speaks with a double toung.

You say you THINK .XXX will not be mandatory therefore using this as argument isnt valid.
However you or your organisation states that it will be easy for parents to block porn by simply blocking .XXX sites on a PC, network or country.
Now this has totaly no use as only a small part of the sites is actualy on this .XXX extention.

So either you lie that you do not think .XXX will be mandatory or you lie by stating that anyone can block porn by blocking .XXX.

I'm going to skip the politics if that's alright?

Our intentions are simply to run a successful business venture, both for ICM and for .XXX domain owners, not to make our product mandatory. I said it was doubtful that .XXX would become mandatory, and that ICM is in no way promoting that it should be, so it's an entirely valid argument.

ICM's view on adult content and it's accessibility is quite clear. Rather than quote several long paragraphs of text, may I point you to about dot xxx and the subfolder of the same name?

Site labeling will make it easy for parents wishing to keep adult content away from their minor children will find it very easy to block the entire domain. Consumers wishing to find specific content that is of interest to them will find that easier to do as well, with clear and precise domain names as well as on search dot xxx.

If I didn't answer your concerns, please forgive me, but I'm having some difficulty understanding your argument.

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