Get a What? A Job? 70% of Occupy Wall Streeters are Employed, Compared to 56% of Tea Partiers.

[stocktrader23]

http://wepartypatriots.com/wp/2011/1...-tea-partiers/

Hi 12clicks, Vendzilla, Rochard, The_Demon, etc.

[stocktrader23]

[baddog]

Nice spin.

[Vendzilla]

wait so 40% of the Tea Party is employing 75% of the Occupy Wall Street? Is that what you are trying to say?

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by baddog

Nice spin.

I knew I was forgetting a name or three.

[SuckOnThis]

[DaddyHalbucks]

Wow, OWS must be good people.

[Rochard]

My problem with OWS is lack of leadership and lack of goals. Without the two it's just a group of people bitching about random things.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by Rochard

My problem with OWS is lack of leadership and lack of goals. Without the two it's just a group of people bitching about random things.

the lack of leadership is it's strength and why it is not going any where.

read up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organization

[raymor]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

wait so 40% of the Tea Party is employing 75% of the Occupy Wall Street? Is that what you are trying to say?

Lol. Somehow I don't actually believe that 75% of the tent people shower, shave, and leave the park to go to work each morning. Not that it's NECESARILY their fault. Unemployment did nearly double in those two years from 2009-2010 when the democrats controlled the senate, the house, and the presidency. So maybe they are just victims of failed democrat policies in the last few years, but I don't think 75% of them are working.

[Rochard]

And I see we are getting closer to getting some goals...

I found this on occupywallst.org just now....

• Widespread deregulation that has eliminated common sense regulations that have insured long term prosperity and protection from predatory business practices
• A Tax code that is cumbersome and rife with loopholes and language that favors an economic minority at the expense of the majority of wage earners
• A Supreme Court decision that has put into place the unprecedented concept of extending first amendment protections to political donations
• Jeopardizing the future of social security through investiture and privatization schemes
• By reducing funding to our education system our future generations are provided a lesser education that previous generations received because of increased class size and reduced resources
• Because of decreasing funding individuals are saddled with higher student loan debt
• A political system where even the most perfunctory tasks of government are partisan battles

I can get behind all of this. But they need to clean it up, slim it down. Instead of calling this "Occupy Wall Street" they need to call this "The Workers Right Movement". Then instead of bitching about Wall Street they need to target the root of the problem - Which isn't Wall Street at all, it's Washington.

[Anthony]

Truly terrible spin. Being retired is not the same as being unemployed.

Par for the course with OWS though.

[mountainmiester]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Truly terrible spin. Being retired is not the same as being unemployed.

Par for the course with OWS though.

Exactly. Also, how is it that simply by referring to someone else's blog, whether that blog is validated information or not, suddenly make what you are saying valid? You still need to validate the source which is not done here.

Hey a nice graphic that looks professionally done, it has to be true.

[cykoe6]

Interesting data. This is a bigger and easier to read version.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by raymor

Lol. Somehow I don't actually believe that 75% of the tent people shower, shave, and leave the park to go to work each morning. Not that it's NECESARILY their fault. Unemployment did nearly double in those two years from 2009-2010 when the democrats controlled the senate, the house, and the presidency. So maybe they are just victims of failed democrat policies in the last few years, but I don't think 75% of them are working.

Tea Party is about wanting responsibility in government
Occupy Wall Street is about?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Tea Party is about wanting responsibility in government
Occupy Wall Street is about?

Giving more power to government so they can bail out their banker buddies easier.

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Giving more power to government so they can bail out their banker buddies easier.

Sad but true. the OWS useful idiots have been duped by the very same people they claim to be against. They are doing the bidding of the big government crony capitalists.

[SleazyDream]

yeah for the pup tenters..... uggggggg

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And I see we are getting closer to getting some goals...

I found this on occupywallst.org just now....

• Widespread deregulation that has eliminated common sense regulations that have insured long term prosperity and protection from predatory business practices
• A Tax code that is cumbersome and rife with loopholes and language that favors an economic minority at the expense of the majority of wage earners
• A Supreme Court decision that has put into place the unprecedented concept of extending first amendment protections to political donations
• Jeopardizing the future of social security through investiture and privatization schemes
• By reducing funding to our education system our future generations are provided a lesser education that previous generations received because of increased class size and reduced resources
• Because of decreasing funding individuals are saddled with higher student loan debt
• A political system where even the most perfunctory tasks of government are partisan battles

I can get behind all of this. But they need to clean it up, slim it down. Instead of calling this "Occupy Wall Street" they need to call this "The Workers Right Movement".

"Workers Right Movement" is your idea? That sounds kinda socialist to me...

Originally Posted by Rochard

Then instead of bitching about Wall Street they need to target the root of the problem - Which isn't Wall Street at all, it's Washington.

I believe that the OWS protests are in part a reaction to the control that Wall Street exerts over the politicians in DC, and that the protesters are targeting both Wall Street and the RepubliCrats, whom are the simply the agents (proxies) of the Plutocrats that are manipulating the puppet strings.

Plutocracy: The wealthy minority exerts influence over the political arena via many methods. Most western democracies permit partisan organizations to raise funds for politicians, and political parties frequently accept significant donations from various individuals (either directly or through corporations or advocacy groups). These donations may be part of a cronyist or patronage system, in which major contributors and fund-raisers are rewarded with high-ranking government appointments.

While campaign donations need not directly affect the legislative decisions of elected representatives, politicians have a personal interest in serving the needs of their campaign contributors: if they fail to do so, those contributors will likely give their money to candidates who do support their interests in the future.

Unless a quid pro quo agreement exists, it is generally legal for politicians to advocate policies favorable to their contributors, or grant appointed government positions to them. In some instances, extremely wealthy individuals have financed their own political campaigns. Many corporations and business interest groups pay lobbyists to maintain constant contact with elected officials, and press them for favorable legislation.

Owners of mass media outlets, and the advertisement buyers which financially support them can shape public perception of political issues by controlling the information available to the population and the manner in which it is presented (see also: fourth estate).

Within government bureaucracy, there is often the problem of a revolving door: the employees of government regulatory bodies, such as the Securities and Exchange Commission in the United States, often transition to and from employment with the same companies they are supposed to regulate. This can result in regulations being changed or ignored to suit the needs of business, since the regulators are more likely to later find employment in the private sector if their government work was beneficial to their new potential employer

Basically, we need political leaders that work for the 99% or 100%, and not politicians that simply look out for the top 1% (except when it is politically expedient to do otherwise), which certainly seems to be the status quo.



#OccupyEarth (with Peace and Love),

ADG

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Giving more power to government so they can bail out their banker buddies easier.

Originally Posted by cykoe6

Sad but true. the OWS useful idiots have been duped by the very same people they claim to be against. They are doing the bidding of the big government crony capitalists.

Are the OWS people accomplishing anything? Other than give some politicians new people to align with?

[Barry-xlovecam]

?First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.? Mahatma Gandhi

[Shotsie]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

We as Americans have not had a proper protest in 30 years. It takes time to build and organize a direction. BTW, anyone watching "Vietnam" 3 night event on the history channel?

I've been watching it for the past three nights, pretty fucking good documentary. Complete waste of 58,000 lives. Here's another good one to check out.

[ColBigBalls]

[raymor]

Some of it sounds good, until you consider how it's actually worked when it was tried, or until you do some basic arithmetic.

[*]Widespread deregulation that has eliminated common sense regulations that have insured long term prosperity and protection from predatory business practices

Regulated long distance telephone rate: 51 cents per minute
Deregulated rate: 14 cents

Regulated airline ticket: $842
Deregulated ticket: $408

Let's regulate more so more things can cost twice as much. Every time it's actually tried, we find that government regulates our money into the pockets of their friends.

[*]A Tax code that is cumbersome and rife with loopholes and language that favors an economic minority at the expense of the majority of wage earners

So they are in favor of getting rid of all the tax loopholes and the billions spent every year on accountants? You want a simple tax system that's fair? I agree. Then they'll love the simple flat tax and the fair tax, both being proposed by current republican candidates.

[*]A Supreme Court decision that has put into place the unprecedented concept of extending first amendment protections to political donations

What the hell do you think the first amendment is for, if not to protect your right to get your voice heard politically? That's the while friggin point of the first amendment, to allow us to be involved in the political process. Read a book without superheroes in it before taking a position on Constitutional law, please. If you really hate contributions to political organizations, though, you can start by demanding that Soros stop funding OWS.

[*]Jeopardizing the future of social security through investiture and privatization schemes

Jeopardizing? There's no risk or uncertainty here, folks. We KNOW how many 52 year olds there are. It's called the "census". We know that in ten years, those 52 year olds will be 62 and start drawing social security. We know we're screwed. Private retirement funds aren't a proposal to fix SS, it's a warning that you better have your own funds because social security is mathematically fucked. 2 + 2 doesn't equal 8 no matter how much we want it to. Social security isn't jeopardized, is over in a few years, because we KNOW how many people will turn 62.

[*]Because of decreasing funding individuals are saddled with higher student loan debt

Our parents had virtually no higher education funding and they had no debt. You have debt because you took out a loan dummy.

[*]A political system where even the most perfunctory tasks of government are partisan battles

2009 - 2010 one party controlled Washington. They controlled the house, they controlled the senate, and they controlled the presidency. There wasn't any partisan battles going on with the democrats in complete control for the last couple years. How has that been working for you?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

BTW, anyone watching "Vietnam" 3 night event on the history channel?

Yeah . . . . it is weird watching your teens on the History Channel. Brings up a lot of emotions.

[raymor]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Tea Party is about wanting responsibility in government
Occupy Wall Street is about?

I'm sure they'll figure it out one day.

Maybe Soros should just come out and tell them what he has them there for rather than playing like he's not running them.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by baddog

Yeah . . . . it is weird watching your teens on the History Channel. Brings up a lot of emotions.

We were wrong, it wasn't the final battle -- our accomplishments were limited in scope and they just bought some time ...

[Choker]

And this was from surveying them on the streets? Ask 100 unemployeed bums if they have jobs, at least 50 will have enough pride to lie and say yes I have a job.

[epitome]

Curious if there is anything Soros isn't supposedly funding?

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Choker

And this was from surveying them on the streets? Ask 100 unemployeed bums if they have jobs, at least 50 will have enough pride to lie and say yes I have a job.

You are suggesting its a made up fact by making up a fact? ;)

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

"Workers Right Movement" is your idea? That sounds kinda socialist to me...

Yeah, that does sound lame. I'm not the most creative person in the world. Someone else can do better....

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

We were wrong, it wasn't the final battle -- our accomplishments were limited in scope and they just bought some time ...

Sorry . . . what?

[Robbie]

How do people in OWS have jobs and never go to them without being fired? Aren't they "occupying" city parks and living in tents and setting up committees and other things?

I would assume that if they had a job in this rough economy that they wouldn't be dumb enough to lose it by not showing up to work everyday?