http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/ny...7lindauer.html
The judge cited the testimony of a government psychiatrist who said that Ms. Lindauer claimed to have special powers and that she had indicated she once met with Osama bin Laden, who disclosed to her the location of a bomb. The judge said that demonstrated ?a lack of connection with reality.?
Wow the NY Times discredits Susan Lindauer...who would have thunk it.
But how about we take a look at the actual case documents
Dr. Kleinman's reports and testimony allege that Ms. Lindauer is incompetent to assist properly in her own defense in part because of her allegedly-?false fixed belief? in her innocence,her allegedly-?false fixed belief? that she acted as a long-time Asset for the U.S. Government, and her allegedly-?false fixed belief? that a jury of her peers would find her not guilty. In short, Dr.Kleinman expressed his opinion that Ms. Lindauer is incompetent because she has pleaded ?Not Guilty? to the charges.
Contradicting Dr. Kleinman's evaluation are reports filed by Family Health Services in Hyattsville, Maryland, where Ms. Lindauer was required to attend meetings on a weekly basis for one year from March 2004 through March, 2005. Dr. Bruke Taddessah recorded that he observed "no signs of psychosis, no signs of mood disturbances, no delusional thinking and no depression." He wrote that there was no basis for psychiatric intervention. Nevertheless, Ms. Lindauer was ordered to surrender to Carswell Federal Medical Center on October 3, 2005, which she obeyed despite strong disagreements with the evaluations.
and on and on in this actual factual case file, more people testifying to her sanity...
So sure, Lindauer is obviously just a nut case and I've got two towers to sell you in Manhattan.
Well she seems to be saying that it was BOTH and act of terrorism AND a controlled demolition. Because that's the only reasonable explanation you see..
and on and on in this actual factual case file, more people testifying to her sanity...
So sure, Lindauer is obviously just a nut case and I've got two towers to sell you in Manhattan.
So.... according to you guys. The Federal Government (and infinitely large list of co-conspirators) can orchestrate the murder of 3000 people in downtown Manhattan in broad daylight, in front of millions of eye witnesses, being video taped and televised from every angle - including helicopters and then effectively get away with it... but when it comes to dealing with one lunatic woman, they really dropped the ball?
Pulling off one of the most fantastic covert "false flag" and mass murder operations in the history of the world... are then suddenly too inept to get rid of deal with one single woman, that they had to pull all these legal maneuvers in a court of law, on public record... and in YOUR minds, this is where it all starts to fall apart?
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So.... according to you guys. The Federal Government (and infinitely large list of co-conspirators) can orchestrate the murder of 3000 people in downtown Manhattan in broad daylight, in front of millions of eye witnesses, being video taped and televised from every angle - including helicopters and then effectively get away with it... but when it comes to dealing with one lunatic woman, they really dropped the ball?
Pulling off one of the most fantastic covert "false flag" and mass murder operations in the history of the world... are then suddenly too inept to get rid of deal with one single woman, that they had to pull all these legal maneuvers in a court of law, on public record... and in YOUR minds, this is where it all starts to fall apart?
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO YOU MINDLESS SHEEP? WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO AND TURN OFF FOX NEWS YOU MINDLESS SHEEP! THEN GOOGLE RON PAUL ILLUMINATI BOHEMIAN GROVE ALEX JONES JEFF RENSE! BAHH BAHH YOU SHEEP!
And BTW... is Obama now a part of the massive 9/11 Conspiracy? I mean, is he just kept in the dark? Or is he now a part of it and willing participant in its cover up? He's just bombing Pakistan for fun? Escalating troops in Afghanistan for absolutely no reason at all than to help Blackwater or Haliburton or KBR or Boeing and others get more military contracts?
. Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO YOU MINDLESS SHEEP? WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO AND TURN OFF FOX NEWS YOU MINDLESS SHEEP! THEN GOOGLE RON PAUL ILLUMINATI BOHEMIAN GROVE ALEX JONES JEFF RENSE! BAHH BAHH YOU SHEEP!
haha.
Angry much?
Why do i need to google the names of a bunch of known lunatics? Why not google Care Bears and Richard Simmons while I'm at it?
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Allegations are made/Charges are filed.
A bunch of arguments are made, refuting the allegations/charges, claiming they are baseless and without merit.
THEN a judge/jury decides who is right and decides punishment.
Thats the general process - since you seem to be so completely unaware of how the legal system works.
. Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO YOU MINDLESS SHEEP? WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO AND TURN OFF FOX NEWS YOU MINDLESS SHEEP! THEN GOOGLE RON PAUL ILLUMINATI BOHEMIAN GROVE ALEX JONES JEFF RENSE! BAHH BAHH YOU SHEEP!
haha.
Yes genius and here is your hero Noam Chomsky talking about how the CIA organized and trained Al-Qaeda before 9/11...he's obviously a real nut job isn't he?
So here is my question to you or any other status quo thinker out there...
If Noam Chomsky sees a direct connection with the CIA and Al Qaeda, then how is it not possible that the CIA was directly involved in 9/11?
Let's just say, hypothetically, that the conspiracy theorists are right and 9/11 was a huge cover-up with more twists and turns than if M. Night Shyamalan and Rod Serling had a baby and fed it LSD. Let's just say you're all right, and as citizens we've been no better off than taking the Blue Pill vs the Red Pill.
Fine. You've educated us, stripped away the blinders, and here we are. ....Now that I know these new facts, what do you propose I do?
See, that's where it all falls apart. Knowledge is useless and academic without a practical plan to act upon it. If I know that blueberry muffins taste better if I put butter on them than margarine, I can choose to buy butter and use it. If I know that infinitely well-armed and bottomlessly financed government agencies and elected officials are manipulating the media to exert control over public opinion and sway it to support their own machiavellian designs.... well, there's bugger all I can do about that, and really, I just want a blueberry muffin.
Yes genius and here is your hero Noam Chomsky talking about how the CIA organized and trained Al-Qaeda before 9/11...he's obviously a real nut job isn't he?
Atleast he's never claimed some hair-brained bullshit like Terrorists + Controlled Demolition = 9-11
Idiots like yourself will fucking believe any old bullshit story that even remotely fits in your retarded world-view
what does noam have to do with your arguments with the lindauer case? oh right nothing, but now it is time to deflect. maybe throw in that's i'm a fox news and tmz watching sheep. maybe that i eat mcdonald's as well.
Originally posted by Caligari
Yes genius and here is your hero Noam Chomsky talking about how the CIA organized and trained Al-Qaeda before 9/11...he's obviously a real nut job isn't he?
So here is my question to you or any other status quo thinker out there...
If Noam Chomsky sees a direct connection with the CIA and Al Qaeda, then how is it not possible that the CIA was directly involved in 9/11?
Allegations are made/Charges are filed.
A bunch of arguments are made, refuting the allegations/charges, claiming they are baseless and without merit.
No genius, I am talking about the facts in the document refuting claims made that Lindauer was insane at the time. There is no argument refuting the allegations, there are FACTS given by doctors observing Lindauer.
No genius, I am talking about the facts in the document refuting claims made that Lindauer was insane at the time. There is no argument refuting the allegations, there are FACTS given by doctors observing Lindauer.
post the judge's ruling. of course you know that her lawyers can claim anything right? you know how courts work?
Atleast he's never claimed some hair-brained bullshit like Terrorists + Controlled Demolition = 9-11
Idiots like yourself will fucking believe any old bullshit story that even remotely fits in your retarded world-view
No genius, I am talking about the facts in the document refuting claims made that Lindauer was insane at the time. There is no argument refuting the allegations, there are FACTS given by doctors observing Lindauer.
They did not say "insane". That's not the language of the court.
Nice try.
. Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.
what does noam have to do with your arguments with the lindauer case? oh right nothing, but now it is time to deflect. maybe throw in that's i'm a fox news and tmz watching sheep. maybe that i eat mcdonald's as well.
You have got to be fucking kidding me... Do you have to have above average intelligence to understand that those dingleberry's on screen are not people to take seriously? This is so bad it looks like an SNL skit mocking truthers... You have Frank Oz's brother hosting this thing in a bad hawaiian shirt, the dogs playing poker large sized painting in the background and betty whites retarded sister smiling and gaffing into a microphone.
This is what you have for us? This is what we are supposed to take seriously?
dcat... you have completely embarrassed yourself... This is some pretty shameful shit to say the least. You would have done a more convincing job if you video taped your improve group after a few drinks. Or maybe next time you should go to your local mental hospital and record what some of those guys believe what happened. Hit up some derelicts in the park in toronto! That would be great!
The truth about 9/11 is it exposes people who are completely bored of their own lives...
No genius, I am talking about the facts in the document refuting claims made that Lindauer was insane at the time. There is no argument refuting the allegations, there are FACTS given by doctors observing Lindauer.
Those "facts" ARE the arguments of the defense refuting the allegations.
Get it?
Do you really not familiar with the court system and how it works are you?
No wonder the world is such a confusing place to you where your only explanation for extraordinary events are rooted in fantasy.
. Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.
post the judge's ruling. of course you know that her lawyers can claim anything right? you know how courts work?
did you not read the doc? it was not her lawyers saying she was sane, it was other doctors saying she was sane. are you saying her lawyers bought off the doctors to say something in her defense? i would call that truly delusional.
did you not read the doc? it was not her lawyers saying she was sane, it was other doctors saying she was sane. are you saying her lawyers bought off the doctors to say something in her defense? i would call that truly delusional.
did you not read the doc? it was not her lawyers saying she was sane, it was other doctors saying she was sane. are you saying her lawyers bought off the doctors to say something in her defense? i would call that truly delusional.
Bradley Manning would like to know why he's going to be in prison for the rest of his life for leaking a bunch of shitty embassy cables. While this woman, who, is completely sane apparently, is allowed to walk free blowing the lid off of the biggest crime of the century.
did you not read the doc? it was not her lawyers saying she was sane, it was other doctors saying she was sane. are you saying her lawyers bought off the doctors to say something in her defense? i would call that truly delusional.
Dude?
What "document"
Do you not see that its a motion by HER DEFENSE TEAM to have the judge reconsider her competence to stand trial?
What are you looking at?
Do you not understand that this IS NOT a document filed the court? Do you not see that its unsigned, undated, un notarized/unstamped etc etc etc? No mention of her legal counsel and who is acting on her behalf/representing her?
You have NO CLUE what you are looking at.
You are just another lunatic DESPERATELY grasping at straws.
It's just a bullshit copy of something that may or may not even be real.
Those "facts" ARE the arguments of the defense refuting the allegations.
No moron, those are statements made by doctors and used by the defense. If those statements were not factual the very doctors would be at risk of perjury.
Yes genius and here is your hero Noam Chomsky talking about how the CIA organized and trained Al-Qaeda before 9/11...he's obviously a real nut job isn't he?
So here is my question to you or any other status quo thinker out there...
If Noam Chomsky sees a direct connection with the CIA and Al Qaeda, then how is it not possible that the CIA was directly involved in 9/11?
Awaiting your answers...
this is how ordinary people get conflicted with all this bullshit... they take one piece of truth.. that being that the cia PAID MONEY and gave weapons to aid groups in Afghanistan, namely the taliban to assist them fighting the russians. They take that fact and spread it extremely thin and claim that they aided al quaeda to attack the US... that's one hell of a slippery slope.. and untrue.
also chomsky has flat out denied having any belief that the government had anything to do with the attacks, he's said it directly on video even..
No moron, those are statements made by doctors and used by the defense. If those statements were not factual the very doctors would be at risk of perjury.
Now back away from the pipe
You can't be at risk of perjury when you aren't testifying as a witness under oath. You certainly can't be at risk of perjury when quotes from you are being put on a fake court document to rouse a bunch of lunatics.
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Do you not understand that this IS NOT a document filed the court? Do you not see that its unsigned, undated, un notarized/unstamped etc etc etc? No mention of her legal counsel and who is acting on her behalf/representing her?
Dude,
Are you just a complete fucking idiot? Can you actually read?
Brian W. Shaughnessy
913 M Street, N.W. Suite 101
Washington, DC 20001
(202) 842-1700
Attorney for Ms. Susan Lindauer
Now without further haste please place your head back firmly up your ass where it belongs
Dude,
Are you just a complete fucking idiot? Can you actually read?
Now without further haste please place your head back firmly up your ass where it belongs
If its filed with the court and public record... then its dated, stamped etc etc etc. Show me this document on the ney york district courts website where it was filed or in NY legal records and i'll believe you. Until then, its just a pdf that appears to be a motion that has yet to be filed or that was never filed.. or that was doctored and posted for people like you to use as "proof" since you're never going to question its legitimacy.
And thank you, as I was telling you, its a motion filed by the defense (i.e. her attorneys) to request the judge declare her competent to stand trial.
Dude,
Are you just a complete fucking idiot? Can you actually read?
And then of course... the obvious question to anyone possessing of any semblance of reason, if this is not an actual motion that was ALREADY filed with the court... then its not a document that's on the public record.
So,... uhm... where did it come from?
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