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  • Grapesoda
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2003
    • 46238

    #1

    dog guys in here pls::

    started a new thread because I need more specific info. what do yyou guys think about these dogs?

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...688632678.html

    like this one..

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...691199383.html

    few more

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...639756587.html

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...685735219.html

    a bit young I think

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb...683946504.html

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv...682596955.html
  • Harmon
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    • Mar 2004
    • 20012

    #2
    I would never get another pet in a million years. They are too much responsibility and are only novel to the family for a few weeks, then nothing but work. Consider yourself lucky to have freedoms from a pet. Planning vacations suck, shit a day out is hard because of food an water. Dealing with kennels and the fleas they can pick up in there, vet bills, etc. Fuck that shit. When my dog goes, that's it. Not even a fucking goldfish.
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    • Lace
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      • Mar 2004
      • 16116

      #3
      I'd stay away from the Husky unless you have a ton of time to train him/her, run them daily as well as brush them since they shed non-stop. They're also quite a bit to handle. Our husky puppy we got two years ago tore up so much stuff around the house from carpet to clothes. They also have the personality of a donkey. If they want to do something, they're going to do it rather you say no or not. I love my Huskies but they're A LOT of work.

      I'd go with a lab. They're very easy to train and loyal.
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      • Grapesoda
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        • Jul 2003
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        #4
        Originally posted by Harmon
        I would never get another pet in a million years. They are too much responsibility and are only novel to the family for a few weeks, then nothing but work. Consider yourself lucky to have freedoms from a pet. Planning vacations suck, shit a day out is hard because of food an water. Dealing with kennels and the fleas they can pick up in there, vet bills, etc. Fuck that shit. When my dog goes, that's it. Not even a fucking goldfish.
        we got a good kennel very close plus the guy in the guest house is a dog nut, so vacations which I never take anyway, aren't really an issue

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        • Grapesoda
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          • Jul 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by Lace
          I'd stay away from the Husky unless you have a ton of time to train him/her, run them daily as well as brush them since they shed non-stop. They're also quite a bit to handle. Our husky puppy we got two years ago tore up so much stuff around the house from carpet to clothes. They also have the personality of a donkey. If they want to do something, they're going to do it rather you say no or not. I love my Huskies but they're A LOT of work.

          I'd go with a lab. They're very easy to train and loyal.
          I like the mastiff... thoughts?

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          • Roald
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            • May 2001
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            #6
            Like said stay away from the Husky unless you really know dogs.

            The lab options look ok to me, you got kids?


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            • Grapesoda
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              • Jul 2003
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              #7
              Originally posted by Roald
              Like said stay away from the Husky unless you really know dogs.

              The lab options look ok to me, you got kids?
              models all day, grandson swings by... he's 3.. and the mastif?

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              • PR_Glen
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                • Oct 2006
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                #8
                mastiffs are the biggest dogs there are so do some reading up on them before jumping into that one ;)

                Labs can be a handful because they can be quite clever, but they are one of the easiest to train because they love attention and they are extremely food motivated. So may be safe bet with that one..

                they do shed, lots of people say they don't.. they do.. and a lot, but short hair so not as bad as some i guess.


                oh i should mention they shed in short bursts.. like once every 4 months or so.. not constantly...
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                • ottopottomouse
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bm bradley
                  models all day, grandson swings by... he's 3
                  Dunno why nobody has suggested a pitbull yet, they are fantastic with kids...
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                  • Grapesoda
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PR_Glen
                    mastiffs are the biggest dogs there are so do some reading up on them before jumping into that one ;)

                    Labs can be a handful because they can be quite clever, but they are one of the easiest to train because they love attention and they are extremely food motivated. So may be safe bet with that one..

                    they do shed, lots of people say they don't.. they do.. and a lot, but short hair so not as bad as some i guess.
                    I've been wanting a mastif for 20 years... so I have given it some thought, done a bit of research as well

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                    • Grapesoda
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                      • Jul 2003
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ottopottomouse
                      Dunno why nobody has suggested a pitbull yet, they are fantastic with kids...
                      no pits....

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                      • Roald
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                        • May 2001
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by PR_Glen
                        mastiffs are the biggest dogs there are so do some reading up on them before jumping into that one ;)

                        Labs can be a handful because they can be quite clever, but they are one of the easiest to train because they love attention and they are extremely food motivated. So may be safe bet with that one..

                        they do shed, lots of people say they don't.. they do.. and a lot, but short hair so not as bad as some i guess.
                        Agreed, I have a lab and its smart and easy to train and will do anything for food. It sheds way less then he once did though and im not sure why.

                        Again, safest bet is the lab. Maybe not as cool or impressive looking as the mastiff but for a first one the lab would be my choice.


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                        • Caligari
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                          #13
                          after looking at those the top 2 are great, especially zoey the lab chow mix.
                          but the mastiff is cool.

                          also you may want to check out the LA Humane Society, plenty of dogs looking for homes there.
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                          • Grapesoda
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                            • Jul 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Roald
                            Agreed, I have a lab and its smart and easy to train and will do anything for food. It sheds way less then he once did though and im not sure why.

                            Again, safest bet is the lab. Maybe not as cool or impressive looking as the mastiff but for a first one the lab would be my choice.
                            here's my issue with labs. 1. the dog next door is a yellow lab and a piece of shit. 2. the dog in the guest house is a yellow lab and a total piece of shit, and 3. at the shelter that had a yellow lab that was a total piece of shit... so I'm def against a yellow lab... my daughter has a chocolate lab, third one and actually... seem pretty pleasant.. have lots of company and strangers due to content prodduction... dog has to be friendly..

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                            • Grapesoda
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                              • Jul 2003
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Caligari
                              after looking at those the top 2 are great, especially zoey the lab chow mix.
                              but the mastiff is cool.

                              also you may want to check out the LA Humane Society, plenty of dogs looking for homes there.
                              http://www.spcala.com/
                              yeah I have a big as list of all the shelters within 100 miles. thanks though. i did email the first 2 links... the mastif might be a no go due to nnot getting along with other dogs...
                              Last edited by Grapesoda; 11-08-2011, 07:39 AM.

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                              • baddog
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                                • Apr 2001
                                • 107089

                                #16
                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...688632678.html - Sounds like a nice dog. The "good guard dog" might be of some concern since you mentioned barking being an issue.


                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...691199383.html - Sounds like a lot of work, and looks like a drooler, so not sure about car travel.

                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...639756587.html - Top dog seems abused, lot of luggage(?). Roomie might be okay

                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...685735219.html - Sounds like a cool dog. Might be a little energetic in the beginning, but daily walks will mellow him out


                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb...683946504.html The formative years. Do you have time to devote?

                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv...682596955.html - The kind of dog that attacked Buddy . . . . guess I have to build my trust level back up.


                                All I can say is if you have never had a dog before, be prepared. It is like having a kid, except you have to feed them every day. They are work and a responsibility as they will never grow up and move out on their own. Just be ready for a commitment.

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                                • 96ukssob
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                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 12991

                                  #17
                                  although this may sound bad, you need to do your homework.

                                  first, call the local police and SPCA and inquire about any outstanding "issues" the dog may have. you will probably need the owners names and addresses

                                  Why? because some people owe huge fines and penalties for their dogs and if they sell them, they will claim the dog ran away or got hit by a car, only to find one day that it will get tied back to you (breeders and the pound puts RFID chip in most dogs). I heard about this happening before, not sure the specifics but watch out.

                                  second, this one is sad, but you need to verify the owner has proper tags or registration from the animal. almost every state requires you to register the animal with the local city or county, Los Angeles is one of them: http://animalcare.lacounty.gov/

                                  my ex bought a small little white dog off someone from CL years ago and turns out the person who sold her the dog, it wasnt even hers. she took it to the vet a few weeks later and turns out that dog has been missing from its owner for weeks.

                                  bye bye money, bye bye doggy...

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                                  • nico-t
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                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 29903

                                    #18
                                    95% of people who specifically want mastiffs/pitbull looking dogs are retards who want to look tough, but cannot even begin to comprehend the responsibility that comes with a dog.

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                                    • Caligari
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                                      • Oct 2009
                                      • 5414

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by baddog

                                      All I can say is if you have never had a dog before, be prepared. It is like having a kid, except you have to feed them every day.
                                      so with kids what do you suggest, feeding them once a week;)

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                                        #20
                                        i was gonna say LOL my little girl almost 2 still crying in middle of night to be fed, at least the dog sleep through the night hahaha

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                                        • _Richard_
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                                          • Oct 2006
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bm bradley
                                          models all day, grandson swings by... he's 3.. and the mastif?
                                          if i were you i'd go with the first dog.. seems like it is already trained and probably should be ok to be left for a half a day with minimal trust building

                                          also should be great with the 3 year old

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                                          • Grapesoda
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                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 46238

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                            http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...688632678.html - Sounds like a nice dog. The "good guard dog" might be of some concern since you mentioned barking being an issue.


                                            http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...691199383.html - Sounds like a lot of work, and looks like a drooler, so not sure about car travel.

                                            http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...639756587.html - Top dog seems abused, lot of luggage(?). Roomie might be okay

                                            http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...685735219.html - Sounds like a cool dog. Might be a little energetic in the beginning, but daily walks will mellow him out


                                            http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb...683946504.html The formative years. Do you have time to devote?

                                            http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv...682596955.html - The kind of dog that attacked Buddy . . . . guess I have to build my trust level back up.


                                            All I can say is if you have never had a dog before, be prepared. It is like having a kid, except you have to feed them every day. They are work and a responsibility as they will never grow up and move out on their own. Just be ready for a commitment.
                                            whoa... the drooler stuff... yep that might be a bit hard on everything... had a dog years ago but I didn't really make the dog do stuff.... just sorted had the dog as a room mate...

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                                            • DateDoc
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                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 14243

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bm bradley
                                              I like the mastiff... thoughts?
                                              Mastiffs are great dogs. Just make sure you have enough space for them to roam around.

                                              http://www.akc.org/breeds/mastiff/

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                                              • baddog
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                                                • Apr 2001
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Caligari
                                                so with kids what do you suggest, feeding them once a week;)

                                                maybe that can be your presidential platform
                                                You just have to keep them fed enough that they don't start nibbling on you in your sleep. That is why we keep them in cages before they are fully trained.



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                                                • scuba steve
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                                                  • Oct 2008
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                                                  #25
                                                  another thing is, you have a lot of models coming around right? mastiffs can be quite intimidating, there's a couple in my building, and my germnan shepherd mix goes on high alert when around them. they can be easily 120 lbs, 140. i can't imagine the shits they take.

                                                  like someone said, huskies are smart but need a lot of dedication. what about a french or american bulldog? i don't know your living situation, but if you work a lot out of your house, i think it should be thought about how many people will be over, will it distract you, etc

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                                                  • Grapesoda
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                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 46238

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by scuba steve
                                                    another thing is, you have a lot of models coming around right? mastiffs can be quite intimidating, there's a couple in my building, and my germnan shepherd mix goes on high alert when around them. they can be easily 120 lbs, 140. i can't imagine the shits they take.

                                                    like someone said, huskies are smart but need a lot of dedication. what about a french or american bulldog? i don't know your living situation, but if you work a lot out of your house, i think it should be thought about how many people will be over, will it distract you, etc
                                                    yes a real consideration is the dog getting under my feet... it'a not a casual thing I'm consdiering here... and just because i am doing this leg work doesn't mean i will pull the tirgger on a dog..

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                                                    • VikingMan
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                                                      #27
                                                      Ask yourself what dog would be welcomed just about anywhere else you ever decide to live If you ever live in an apartment a big dog might not be allowed. Also keep in mind many of these people who work in animal rescue are total whack jobs. I mean just look at me for an example.

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                                                      • Lace
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                                                        • Mar 2004
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                                                        #28
                                                        As Steve said, the Mastiff may be a bit intimidating for models or kids. Depending on the breed of Mastiff, they can be very large. I've had people scared of my 70lb Husky + Akita mix so I couldn't imagine a 140lb dog. Just do your research on the breed you're looking at and if you can, spend some time with the dog you're looking at and make sure you two get along.
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                                                          #29
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                                                          • diablom
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                                                            #30
                                                            Husky, if you have a house
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                                                            • Grapesoda
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                                                              • Jul 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Lace
                                                              As Steve said, the Mastiff may be a bit intimidating for models or kids. Depending on the breed of Mastiff, they can be very large. I've had people scared of my 70lb Husky + Akita mix so I couldn't imagine a 140lb dog. Just do your research on the breed you're looking at and if you can, spend some time with the dog you're looking at and make sure you two get along.
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                                                                • calvinawe
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  labs are great for starters.
                                                                  yep.

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                                                                  • drmadcat
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                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • NewNick
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Mastiffs are great but lots of health problems because of poor blood lines. (I speak from first hand experience)

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                                                                      • Paul Markham
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                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 52942

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                                        models all day, grandson swings by... he's 3.. and the mastif?
                                                                        That decides it.

                                                                        Don't buy anything buy a puppy you can train and shape it's personality.

                                                                        buying anything over 4 months is risky, a dogs character will start to form in those months. Training a 3 month old is hard, training a 3 year old a nightmare. You end up with someone else's dog. A dog fits into the family, not the other way around.

                                                                        A boxer or lab will love children and guests. For instance our friends with very young children love Rajah and play with him. sometimes taking away his bone. He knows it's a game and lets them. Most dogs will turn if a kid does this. Will turn if an adult does it.

                                                                        They will be a bit boisterous when young, but this can be trained out of them with time. It takes at least 2 hours a day to walk/train a medium size dog. They are animals not ornaments.

                                                                        Small dogs have been crossed bred for so long they have their own problems and can be very highly strung.

                                                                        You're going to be adopting a very cute lovable sweet puppy, that in 6 months has his own opinions, ideas, character and be powerful, simple minded with very big sharp teeth.

                                                                        Remember this?



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                                                                        When that thing hits you at full pace, you know you were hit. He's bigger now and more.

                                                                        Just more.

                                                                        Just had to go into the garden and see why Rajah is barking. He's annoyed one of his toys isn't doing what he wants it to or something. He's literally sitting in the middle of the garden barking at a rope toy.

                                                                        Good luck shooting porn with that going on around you.

                                                                        And boxers are not "barking dogs" Good luck with other breeds that love to bark when someone walks pass the house, a plane flies over, a bird lands in your garden, they want food attention, water, walking, to be lat out, to be let in, to be let, because they feel like it and because they just bark. Models wil love this distraction.
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                                                                        • JFK
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          It has been already said, but get a pup you can train from the start. I am all for rescuing animals from shelters, but when getting a grown animal, you maybe in for unpleasant surprises

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                                                                          • Mutt
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                                                                            #38


                                                                            this handsome boy would be my pick but not sure you will be able to give a one year old Lab enough attention.
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                                                                            • Paul Markham
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by JFK
                                                                              It has been already said, but get a pup you can train from the start. I am all for rescuing animals from shelters, but when getting a grown animal, you maybe in for unpleasant surprises
                                                                              Even a dog taken from a puppy has a habit of dropping unpleasant surprises. Which is why we have little plastic bags to pick them up with.

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                                                                              • Roald
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                Even a dog taken from a puppy has a habit of dropping unpleasant surprises. Which is why we have little plastic bags to pick them up with.

                                                                                Brian, your garden = His toilet.
                                                                                Train your dog properly and your garden is your garden. His toilet is what I teach him to be his toilet. My dog never takes a crap in my garden


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                                                                                • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Just don't ...

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                                                                                  • AaronM
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I'm a bit partial to labs.

                                                                                    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...685735219.html

                                                                                    Models and kinds love my lab and he's always been well behaved.

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                                                                                    • adamz
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Labs are ok, to hyper imho.

                                                                                      Golden Retrievers are by far the best dogs I have ever come across, playful but very chill and smart but not too smart.



                                                                                      I understand that this wasn't one of your options but if you do come across one it should work for you.

                                                                                      The Mastiff's are too big.

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                                                                                      • candyflip
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                                                        I like the mastiff... thoughts?
                                                                                        If you don't take him, can you mail him to me?

                                                                                        They are awesome. And even though he's probably more inclined to want to cuddle and give you a big sloppy kiss...NO ONE will coming onto your property without permission.

                                                                                        Also, I have little kids and they have NO issue with the Mastiff. They are overwhelmed with my neighbors two 8 month old Labs though.
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                                                                                        • candyflip
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          It's funny seeing Paul Markham say that you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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                                                                                          • bronco67
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                                                                                            • Dec 2006
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            You can't go wrong with a Lab mix.

                                                                                            I'd skip the Weimeraner, even though its mixed with Lab. Not good for someone that is not yet a "dog person". (I'm assuming you're not a dog person, since you're asking the advice of people who are).

                                                                                            Same goes for the Husky. You should be an experienced owner before having one of those -- or German Sheppard, or Rottweiler, or Pit Bull.

                                                                                            Those Lab mix dogs look great.
                                                                                            Last edited by bronco67; 11-09-2011, 07:00 AM.

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                                                                                            • v4 media
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                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                              • 2934

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I got a 5 yearold lab/mastiff cross from the pound 2 months ago.


                                                                                              Good with kids and my kids ferret.

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                                                                                              • tony286
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                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                • 57021

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...688632678.html - Sounds like a nice dog. The "good guard dog" might be of some concern since you mentioned barking being an issue.


                                                                                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...691199383.html - Sounds like a lot of work, and looks like a drooler, so not sure about car travel.

                                                                                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...639756587.html - Top dog seems abused, lot of luggage(?). Roomie might be okay

                                                                                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...685735219.html - Sounds like a cool dog. Might be a little energetic in the beginning, but daily walks will mellow him out


                                                                                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb...683946504.html The formative years. Do you have time to devote?

                                                                                                http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv...682596955.html - The kind of dog that attacked Buddy . . . . guess I have to build my trust level back up.


                                                                                                All I can say is if you have never had a dog before, be prepared. It is like having a kid, except you have to feed them every day. They are work and a responsibility as they will never grow up and move out on their own. Just be ready for a commitment.

                                                                                                Well said. The mastiff you have to plan on training her, with a big dog its a must. The people across the street have 200 lbs corso and Ive never seen a dog so well trained. My dogs are rescues and rescues tend to have emotional scars. My boston used to get beat to this day when you touch him he jumps first. They are alot of responsibility but I think they are worth it.

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                                                                                                • CDSmith
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                                                                                                  • May 2001
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by v4 media
                                                                                                  I got a 5 yearold lab/mastiff cross from the pound 2 months ago.


                                                                                                  Good with kids and my kids ferret.
                                                                                                  That's a nice looking dog.
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                                                                                                  • ahoy
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                    • 512

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by adamz
                                                                                                    Labs are ok, to hyper imho.

                                                                                                    Golden Retrievers are by far the best dogs I have ever come across, playful but very chill and smart but not too smart.

                                                                                                    I would have to second the Golden, but I may be a bit bias

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