start taxing religions and churches
if the government can tax income, food, water, etc..., i think they should start taxing these churches and religions.
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Americans are complaining that the wealthy and corporations pay too little in taxes, but at least they pay something. The religious community though, is paying nothing and it is time they start contributing to their community, state, and Federal governments for the resources they consume and damage they have wrought on this country. It is finally the time to eliminate the tax-exempt, non-profit status of every church in America whether it is the vile Southern Baptist Convention affiliates, Islamic Mosques, Jewish Tabernacles or Buddhist monasteries. At the same time, the tax code must be revised to eliminate the double-dipping statutes that allow the clergy to avoid paying the same rate of income tax as the rest of the American population. Religion has taken welfare from the American people long enough and with communities laying off fire fighters, police officers, and school teachers while struggling to make ends meet, churches of every denomination are enjoying government entitlements working Americans never receive.
There is absolutely no valid reason to give churches tax-exempt status; in fact it is unconstitutional. Religious fanatics and normal people alike give myriad reasons for why churches should not pay property tax or income tax, but they are all based on the belief that religious people are special and deserve taxpayers’ largesse. Many Americans say that churches and the clergy are doing god’s work and warrant special privileges. If they are doing god’s work, then let god give them welfare now or make them wait till they die and go wherever they think they’re going for their reward. There are other Americans who claim Christian churches deserve welfare because they are doing good work in their communities. Nurses, teachers, fire-fighters, and police officers really do good work in their communities but they are not exempt from paying their fair share in taxes.
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The mega-churches with "pastors" that live in mansions and have private jets would be a good place to start.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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settled law.
live with it.I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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need not even bring up things like Scientology, religious tax exemption is used for business - highlighted in examples like Scientology who bring in more than your average church on the corner in revenue due its licensing and books.
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No you won't. It's been common practice for hundreds, if not thousands thousands, of years. And despite what GFYers like to believe, a good majority of the population is affiliated with a religion/place of worship. You're also leaving out the whole part where many places of worship do actually reinvest in their community, other communities, and help people. Which is far more than what most standard citizens would even think about doing.
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well i remain positive LOL
i am not the only one for taxing them and I will not be the last.... many great articles out there regarding this.
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Church are broke man... gonna tax dust.
Here in Quebec many churches are getting sold and they build condo's into them.
Better off taxing weed, there's more followers in weedianisme
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Realistically, the only tax that would really be coming out of most churches would be property taxes, which typically go to the local school district. Many churches have their own schools or their own school district and offer education at a much cheaper price per student, which also lessens the overall student load on the public school system.
You're not going to get much from taxing profits. Most churches don't even have profits.
I don't know if churches pay sales tax on their purchases or not. If not, that would be a fair tax.
Mega-churches on the other hand are clearly a scam, but they have so many followers and so much money behind them, it would be close to impossible to tear them down.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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The public school system, on average, pays a minimum of $10k to educate every individual student. The Catholic school system educates each child much much cheaper than the public school system. So in your example, that Catholic school is saving your public school system over $5,000 a year by educating that student at a much cheaper price.
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Down here in New Orleans, the catholic church owns tons and tons of property. All kinds.
The police chief of NO lives in a church owned property right behind the Saint Louis Cathedral. The news came out he wasn't paying any rent, so they claimed he pays market value which means he probably pays $500 a month now. lol. Regular citizens can't even rent these places.
This place is crazy owned and ran by catholics. It is disturbing.
Again, this place does it's own thing, so this statement is totally wrong in regards to NO. It is crazy. The public schools are garbage too. Luckily there are charter schools now.Many churches have their own schools or their own school district and offer education at a much cheaper price per student, which also lessens the overall student load on the public school system.Comment
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If anyone has lived in New Orleans, and did the family thing at all, they might understand where Fletch is coming from. (and isn't catholic lol).
The catholics sssooo own this place. During hurricanes, they have priests on the news prime time, praying. LOLComment
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the catholic school i went to recently erected a full enclosed basketball court gym building (the school is K-8) there is no basketball court even needed.
However, what they did was phenomenal in regards to their loop holes.
They took out the loan for the building using donations right,...then applied a $255 fee (clearly marked on the tuition form) that is to "cover the debt and cost of new building" - its written clearly on tuition form.
so they borrowed with donations, then pay it off with a billed cost to students. no taxes...
im the only one sees something wrong here?Last edited by Fletch XXX; 11-03-2011, 05:43 AM.
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Do you pray? I guess you must if you think that is alright.
I'm watching the news for info on the hurricane, but it was all prayer and about GOD going to make sure New Orleans is ok. This was Gustav btw, after Katrina. Crazy to see.
ps. for a non catholic, it is horror... scary for sure!Last edited by cherrylula; 11-03-2011, 05:46 AM.Comment
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You have a serious hardon for religion.
Were you molested by a priest as a kid?Comment
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We need to tax alcoholics more for having to put up with their mad drivel.Comment
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I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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You don't think the government controls the TV station? So I guess they can broadcast anything they want, right? Like porn, beheading videos, vulgar language. Sure, the government NEVER controls the TV.
Maintream news can do whatever they want, the US government never intervenes.
As we all know, the government can't make laws fast enough to control... drumroll please..... the internet! So yeah, they sort of have a hand in these things. lolComment
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lol you are arguing with yourself, I never tried to make a point about the cost of church-run schools other than Sly said they "offered education at cheaper price" i disagreed, the debate went nowhere, because i wasnt talking about the cost to public, was talking cost to student. we moved on... yet thats the only point you have to make here? Woah, deep.
this thread was never about comparing costs of taxpayer burden of educationLast edited by Fletch XXX; 11-03-2011, 06:14 AM.
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listen fletch and cherry, I'm sure when the two of you are sitting on your flea ridden couch drinking your afterwork moonshine you convince each other how smart you are but here in the real world, you're clueless.
We get it, you don't like religion. big deal.
your likes and dislikes mean nothing to facts.
and the facts remain unchanged.I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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ah personal attacks, the result of nothing left to retort.
run along, i win.
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Funny, but the ignorance of that statement pretty much sums up your posting career.
Please, spare your brain the energy of thinking about what Fletch and I do on the couch.
ps. thanks for the posts, I enjoy the debate (til it resorts to tardness). Please, 12clicks, add us into your prayers tonight. Thanks. lolLast edited by cherrylula; 11-03-2011, 06:21 AM.Comment
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I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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@ cherry,
there is no debate when 12clocks posts. As he clearly states, he is here because he is bored and doesnt have anything else to do.
understandable. we all come here to kill a little time. im here to do that and drum up some business. but i do at least have other things to do lol
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i think what pisses 12clicks off about me so much (and I have nothing against him, I actually have learned from him) is that I am just like him.
Just a man trying to run a business and provide for my family. I could be doing illegal things to get by, but I choose to hustle and grind and do things the right way.
He likes to classify me and put me in groups to which i do not even belong, (like this 99%er stuff to which i am not even part of) and I think this justifies his mental position and vision of me, but that doesnt make it accurate.
When 12clicks looks at me he sees a younger version of himself , and somehow that has always brought negativity out from him towards me.
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buuuump (12cliks killed my thread!)
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