Lets not forget other history that has been swept under the rug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Surprising that you never see any Hollywood films about these two incidents.

Anyone can argue that anything is possible. It doesn't require sound reason or a clear mind. It certainly doesn't require one to be right as a prerequisite. 9/11 is perfect fodder for those who are deranged and in desperate need of help. It's the perfect object to point at and say "see, I told you so, the problem is not me... the problem is over there".

9/11 is the new JFK and after 30 years of hearing about it, it will be replaced by something else.

In the meantime, the earth will keep turning on its axis and all this frantic behavior by the clinically ill, will have changed nothing,.. because after all, the intent is not to affect change, the true purpose is to vent and to project ones own emotional issues on to something else.

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What a fucking retard this guy is. Unbelievable.

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and hobbies. :)

I have more than a passing interest in science, physics (even Astrophysics) so when Mediaguy says the words "controlled demolition", I start calling up everything that I think I know and challenge him on it. To me it looks like a collapse, and nothing at all like a controlled demolition. Mediaguy believes just the opposite, which in turn begins yet another spirited debate on the subject. I'll never agree with him (nor he with me), but 9/11 Conspiracy theories are fun to talk about, and for me anyway, creates a lot of critical thinking.

So of course Squealer, we've had some missteps business-wise, and business for us is slower these days just as I'm sure it is for many others here. Try not to dismiss media guy (or our product and services) for his thoughts on 9/11. I certainly don't. Instead, if you're interested, challenge his ideas, enjoy the conversations and arguments, and do some research and draw your own conclusions.

I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

On the other hand, the way I see it is, I don't want to have anything to do with a company that has employees that may well interact with my account and mistakenly believe shit like this constitutes any kind of "proof". Your employees are a reflection of your company. To me, Media Guy reflects badly on your company.

To each their own I suppose. :2 cents:

Your government has actually provided little or no proof of their version of their story, much along the lines of the Iraq WMDs or that little "nurse" who testified that Hussein's soldiers were yanking babies out of nurseries in the first Gulf war back in the 90s.

I do my research and come to what I now contend from some evidentiary basis, to my way of seeing things.

I believe that my conclusions are sound, and relate them without guile and to the risk of my credibility or personal reputation based on personal ethics and judgement.

In no way would this or that affect my "interaction" with your account or allow anything outside of dollars and cents permit me to treat you with anything less than full respect for your beliefs, business or bullshit. Even in these forums I don't call names or react harshly or without providing benefit of the doubt and room to question.

Ask Rochard, my sparring partner ;)

Let's say I believe in a woman's choice on abortion, and that's not your credence... would you think that reflects badly on us?

Do you think investing in 2much.net would be endorsing any beliefs that aren't yours, pro or con? Could you really conduct business with anyone in the world if it had to be based on their full set of beliefs and philosophy matching yours?

Get a better reason. No, actually, get a reason.

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people are wary of giving money to, and trusting their business with, people they consider delusional.

that you can't see that, is ... delusional.

of course many people have eccentric beliefs but most keep them to themselves because it will effect their business. :2 cents:

I always felt that the people who said that any of the buildings coming down were controlled demolitions were... well deluded.

This a few weeks ago I watched this
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-e...rts-speak-out/

I respect experts in fields I know nothing about and quite a few of these men and women looked hesitant to to really tell what their conclusions are. But once you watch the video it will give you a reason to stop and wonder a bit

ok now go read the counterpoints out there. there are many.

Fiddy nano-thermite tests!

And btw "people" can be considered delusional who believe in God, Allah, Yaweh, Wicca, Scientology and the like.

I consider "delusional" anyone who thinks the US Govt. story is true... or rather maybe just misinformed?

I also consider delusional anyone who thinks the HPV vaccine should be administered to children.

That's just my "belief".

So much of our perception of reality is pumped onto us by media that it's really a conundrum to base behaviour and reaction on those perceptions.

Mark Prince and myself have very different perceptions on a number of issues and "beliefs".

But we can still share a dog and a beer at a barbeque and have a good time. That hot dog, that beer, that back yard, are the only things that are "real" that we share. The rest is in our minds/hearts/souls.

I think me and you could be at that barbeque, and me and Warchild, and anyone else here who doesn't agree with all my perceptions of the world outside that backyard.

When you get down to it, that back yard is all that matters and unless someone's gonna bomb it or shoot it up because of a perceived conflict of perceptions, everybody should be welcome, tossing it back and tossing it around.

And business is dollars and cents, so what's good for you is good for me and if you keep your perceptions and beliefs to yourself as they should be then we're gonna have a good time.

And if you care to share your beliefs and perceptions with me, I can agree or disagree but I'll take them as they come: they don't affect the party unless you let them.

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If it were only 1% believing in 9/11 'Conspiracies' then one might have to take it into consideration from a business point of view. These days the % is so high (and growing) it's not going to make a difference.

However, what will make a difference is if a person can keep their cool and always treat others with respect. I believe Media Guy does this, though I haven't read everyone of his posts. What we also see from Media Guy is that he doesn't give up, he keeps patiently and persistently chipping away; without a doubt postive characters traits. :2 cents:

I only believe in Wikipedia. But only on Tuesdays. Otherwise, I shop at Wal Mart late at night - but mostly because it's entertaining.

persistence about delusional ideas is not a positive character trait. it usually is a cause for medication and hospitalization.

Long dead site. Many years in fact. Just keep it for the email.

Agreed, delusional ideas are not good at all. Media Guy tends to focus on empirical evidence, rather than ideas or beliefs :2 cents:

Only the Adult industry would employees be allowed or encouraged to represent the companies they work for in such a way. I promise you it wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else. If a McDonalds employee started spouting off his religious beliefs and trying to convince people they were facts, they would be immediately removed from the position. Posting on GFY "Where The Adult Industry Meets" is absolutely no different.

You might have a point if he were offering what he thinks as oppinion. That's not the case though, is it? He's offering it as being fact. This alone calls in to question his judgment and by default the judgment of his employer.

If you're really in business and you want to do the most business you can, you don't allow your employees to spout off oppinion and claim it's a fact all the while representing your company and ultimately you personally. I have plenty of choices for cam options and having one of your employees run their mouth makes me skip considering yours all together. If you think I'm the only person with that mindset then I encourage you to ask around.

Here's the problem with you nut bars. You don't even understand what empirical evidence is because you've certainly offered none.

WarChild,

Come on now, seriously? First, we're all lucky that Eric lets everyone here on GFY post their opinions on anything and everything. The fact that we are all in the adult entertainment industry gives us all common ground on which to base discussions on.

Since none of us here are are engineers, scientists etc involved in the investigation of the events of 9/11, all we can truly talk about, are our beliefs and opinions on the subject. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, and as I said before, everyone else is free to challenge them on it. (Critical thinking!)

If you don't like the opinions that Mediaguy has on 9/11, fair enough, but don't judge him (or me or my company or my product) solely on those opinions. Business or product worthiness need not include topics of spirited discussions such as 9/11, religion or politics. I certainly would not dismiss your business or product for any of your opinions. For example, you forgot to renew your domain name, your avatar contains a copyright image you do not own, and your moto suggests that you are a war monger. Should we never consider doing business with you based on these 3 observations?

Regards,

I have to ask if you actually watched the video I linked to. They take on a lot of counter arguments. I am not saying I believe any of it, but it does give me pause for thought and maybe more than a little doubt about trusting the official story as provided to us by NIST

if you you knew what empirical evidence was this thread wouldn't exist.

i've studied and read the theories for a decade now. this is nothing new.

We should all be grateful that the Thought Police haven't taken over here yet, like on Facebook where software automatically delete revealing quotes from the Bankers

Ok, it's just that it's in your "homepage" link so I thought maybe it ran out. I had domains die recently because I upgraded to "grid hosting" whatever that is and something went south during the "upgrade" but luckily a follower let me know...

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hate to bring this up but i think many people are confused as to what criminal "conspiracy" means.

"an agreement between persons to break the law in the future, in some cases having committed an act to further that agreement"

the official explanation of 9/11 is that it was a conspiracy. The only way 9/11 wouldn't be a conspiracy is if one man hijacked all 4 planes or if all the other terrorists had no idea what was going on.

My government? What is my government?>

It's obvious you have little to no life experience. It has nothing to do with thought police no matter how easily that fits in to your silly mindset.

Your theories are wild and completely unsubstantiated. I'll no more argue with you and your absurd notion that the UN is a vast conspiracy hell bent on ruling the average person than I would argue with somebody who believed the Earth was flat or the Moon made of cheese. It's absurd on the face and I won't validate your nonsense by trying to educate you. :2 cents:

PornoJew: Do you believe in God?

what does that have to do with anything?

The answer to that question in relation to this conversation would only be relevant if he were here representing a company and pushing his belief on the matter one way or the other. That's clearly not the case here.

Sorry, I was assuming you were US-based.

My mistake :D

But probably your government and most governments who are subject to US domination or subvention subscribe to the same myth.

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This guy talks about how the WTC's were powered down before 911 with a complete breakdown of security. Poor guy still thinks it was muslims though. lol

So what are you saying? That doctor's don't go to medical conventions and have dicussions about 9/11 or OWS? Don't be silly. People have opinions.

No one is asking for you to educate them.

But if you believe what the govenrment says is true, link us up.

If you believe my posts about government foreknowledge and those science-based experiments are false, link us up.

Calling me a [bad word for black person] because I'm black deny the fact that I am human, after all...

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ah ha!

so giant jet planes filled with fuel did NOT hit the towers.

shit, now I understand.

Wow I'd never have pegged you for somebody that runs with wild assumptions. Imagine my surprise. :1orglaugh

Doctors don't go to work in a hospital and push their beliefs as fact on patients. If they did, they'd be looking for new employment quickly.

Try to keep up.