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nation-x 11-01-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18529425)
uh, no son. that line should read,"I could only be me, I don't have the brains to be him"

trolls like yourself think I'm an asshole because I've taken your measure and wasn't impressed by it. I really don't treat the unintelligent very kindly.

Its a flaw I'm working on.:thumbsup

How interesting that you call ME a troll... while trolling.

12clicks 11-01-2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18529584)
How interesting that you call ME a troll... while trolling.

I suggest you re-read the thread:1orglaugh

directfiesta 11-01-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18528607)

I didn't like Barry since day one, more and more people are starting to agree with me.


If " Barry " would walk on water , you would say he can't swim ....:2 cents:

Babaganoosh 11-01-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18529414)
thats kinda the point.:thumbsup

As usual, you have no point. All you have is arrogance, ignorance and a bad case of verbal diarrhea. What a great combination.

12clicks 11-01-2011 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18529619)
As usual, you have no point. All you have is arrogance, ignorance and a bad case of verbal diarrhea. What a great combination.

point is, you have an account here on GFY that lets you post.
you have nothing else of note.
with your scary ability to make predictions, you'd think you'd have more than just an account to post on GFY.:1orglaugh

Vendzilla 11-01-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18529605)
If " Barry " would walk on water , you would say he can't swim ....:2 cents:

Morons like you that still believe in him are doing so like he's a deity, you see the unemployment rate at over 9% for almost his entire presidency and talk how he's adding more jobs that the 3 last presidents, and you think I've got problems?

You're the one that thinks he's walking on water, I know it's some glass he's got propped up under the water.

BFT3K 11-01-2011 09:25 AM

If I were really rich, the last thing I would do with my life is spend time posting on GFY.

Not sure why someone who CLAIMS to be SO SUCCESSFUL in life, would take time out of such a carefree existence, to argue with people on a message board.

That leaves two options - 1) You aren't nearly as successful as you pretend to be or 2) You are a very sad and pathetic person, who is technically wealthy enough to fill the days with happier activities, but due to a major personality flaw, has no friends or beneficial ambitions, so posting here is all you have to do.

BFT3K 11-01-2011 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18529696)
Morons like you that still believe in him are doing so like he's a deity, you see the unemployment rate at over 9% for almost his entire presidency and talk how he's adding more jobs that the 3 last presidents, and you think I've got problems?

You're the one that thinks he's walking on water, I know it's some glass he's got propped up under the water.

Fortunately for you, once Obama is re-elected in 2012, you will get 4 more years to bitch about shit. :1orglaugh

Sly 11-01-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18529706)
If I were really rich, the last thing I would do with my life is spend time posting on GFY.

Frankly I think the same argument can be made for being rich or broke and posting on GFY. Granted, definition of rich will vary, but many "well off" people read and post here regularly. Why? They enjoy it.

That's why we do things. We enjoy them.

Allowing some sort of financial success, or lack thereof, to determine whether or not you continue doing a particular activity that you enjoy really makes little sense.

I can afford sushi and steak everyday. I still eat tuna from a can. Why? I enjoy it.

Vendzilla 11-01-2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18528623)
and when you counter with jabs at the "intelligence of Obama supporters" it's just as bad. you dish it out just as much as you get it around here, vend. with the same broad brush as BFT3K. you can attack Obama all you want - it's part of his job to take those attacks. but we rabidly attack each other and it's foolish, does nothing for the 'discussion'.

The difference is I call Obama on his record, like why is the unemployment rate still over 9% or why is he trying to put out another stimulus bill

BFT3K runs threads called hey Obama Haters, or go ahead look up his list.


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here's a perfect opportunity for my attack: :winkwink: Cain is DONE! if he still somehow gets the nom i'm going to just call the win for Obama, cause he's gonna shred cain to ribbons :1orglaugh
So Cain on something that happened in the 90's and Obama something that happened in the last 3 years, sure.

Herman Cain is now recognized by 78% of Republicans nationwide, marking a gain of 28 percentage points since September and 57 points since March. This is the largest gain in recognition for any GOP presidential candidate Gallup has tracked this year, and puts him roughly on par with the other major candidates.
http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/...m5qzs49sug.gif

Vendzilla 11-01-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18529724)
I can afford sushi and steak everyday. I still eat tuna from a can. Why? I enjoy it.

Tuna from the can is sushi, well kinda , LOL

I enjoy posting, that's why I do it

Babaganoosh 11-01-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18529638)
point is, you have an account here on GFY that lets you post.
you have nothing else of note.
with your scary ability to make predictions, you'd think you'd have more than just an account to post on GFY.:1orglaugh

Like what? A poorly-drawn banner of a guy shooting coins out of his ass? Is that your measure of success?

Like I said, you don't know me. You have no idea what I have.

BFT3K 11-01-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18529724)
Frankly I think the same argument can be made for being rich or broke and posting on GFY. Granted, definition of rich will vary, but many "well off" people read and post here regularly. Why? They enjoy it.

That's why we do things. We enjoy them.

Allowing some sort of financial success, or lack thereof, to determine whether or not you continue doing a particular activity that you enjoy really makes little sense.

I can afford sushi and steak everyday. I still eat tuna from a can. Why? I enjoy it.

Good points. :)

nation-x 11-01-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18529740)

I have been listening to Republicans ripping him a new asshole all morning... He is cooked. Personally, I think that sucks... I would have loved to see him as the Republican Nominee.

I would be willing to put money on who turned him in to Politico... my money is on the Romney Campaign. I don't think it's a coincidence that on the same day that the story came out, Romney started a media blackout.

BFT3K 11-01-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18529740)
Herman Cain is now recognized by 78% of Republicans nationwide, marking a gain of 28 percentage points since September and 57 points since March. This is the largest gain in recognition for any GOP presidential candidate Gallup has tracked this year, and puts him roughly on par with the other major candidates.

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/...m5qzs49sug.gif

That may be the dumbest graph I have ever seen. :1orglaugh

What does it prove? It is idiotic at best.

Did you know that 5 out of 10 women make up 50% of the female population?

Seriously, name recognition is his strength? Obama vs Cain - who wins?

Vendzilla 11-01-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18529775)
I have been listening to Republicans ripping him a new asshole all morning... He is cooked. Personally, I think that sucks... I would have loved to see him as the Republican Nominee.

I would be willing to put money on who turned him in to Politico... my money is on the Romney Campaign. I don't think it's a coincidence that on the same day that the story came out, Romney started a media blackout.

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18529787)
That may be the dumbest graph I have ever seen. :1orglaugh

What does it prove? It is idiotic at best.

Did you know that 5 out of 10 women make up 50% of the female population?

Seriously, name recognition is his strength? Obama vs Cain - who wins?

See this is what I like about Cain, he scares you guys!

All the polls have him ahead, go ahead and look! I don't think his 999 plan will get off the ground, but he keeps gaining in the polls.

FlexxAeon 11-01-2011 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18529740)
So Cain on something that happened in the 90's and Obama something that happened in the last 3 years, sure.

Herman Cain is now recognized by 78% of Republicans nationwide, marking a gain of 28 percentage points since September and 57 points since March. This is the largest gain in recognition for any GOP presidential candidate Gallup has tracked this year, and puts him roughly on par with the other major candidates.
http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/...m5qzs49sug.gif

so? recognition does not make someone a viable or respectable candidate/politician. remember palin?

superficially, i want cain to get the nom. will be another first in this country, and i know that those true "you-know-what" people out there are going to just claw their own faces off if they have to choose between two black candidates :1orglaugh but past that, cain shows almost nothing that interest me as a voter and every day he inches closer to nothingness.

Sly 11-01-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18529749)
Tuna from the can is sushi, well kinda , LOL

I enjoy posting, that's why I do it

Tuna from a can is cooked to high hell. One of the reasons that it tastes so different from a tuna steak.

Sausage 11-01-2011 10:24 AM

None.

Enough rope .....

nation-x 11-01-2011 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18529806)
See this is what I like about Cain, he scares you guys!

All the polls have him ahead, go ahead and look! I don't think his 999 plan will get off the ground, but he keeps gaining in the polls.

Can you read? I clearly said I WANT him to get the nomination... I am certainly not afraid that Cain would get elected anymore than I was that Sarah Palin would be Vice President. Both are non starters... Cain doesn't have a chance of becoming President because he doesn't even really have a campaign for one... and secondly, he is a hardcore right winger. Even Bush had enough sense to run in the middle.

Personally, I am concerned that Romney or Huntsman might become the nominee... none of the others have a chance of getting elected in the General Election except maybe Perry and I have serious doubts that he can regain his footing. Only people who watch too much Fox News think any of the others are viable candidates.

I think Romney will end up as the nominee. If a viable third party candidate appears that the Tea Party decides to back... Romney is toast... if I were in charge of the Democratic Party, I would do my best to find one and work to get him some recognition.

Robbie 11-01-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18527420)
So, did anyone answer the original question?

Any of them would beat Obama if the current economic situation remains.

However...a few days ago it was looking pretty good for Obama. I really liked what he said about not waiting on Congress and doing something himself. That fired me up. That was showing a little leadership.
Then the Europeans looked like they had a deal in place to save themselves and the market took off along with some other good economic news about growth.

Good week for Obama.

Today? The Greeks threw a monkey wrench in the European deal and that's not gonna be resolved until January.

So it's gonna be a painful 3 months for Obama and the economy.

ANYTHING can happen between now and next years election.

It really is this simple: The economy turns around? It will be Obama part 2
The economy stays where it's at or worsens? Obama is gone and goes down in history as Jimmy Carter part 2

As Bill Clinton said in 1992: "It's the economy stupid"

Adult Insider Dave 11-01-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18529134)
Who do you think it will be.

Sup Minte, thought your car was yellow :D

I think the best candidate against Obama would be Ron Paul. He has tons of support but the media and far right wing hates him. That means the rest of America and normal people might toss him a vote.

Robbie 11-01-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18529787)
Obama vs Cain - who wins?

If the election were held today?

Cain wins 43% to 41%
Obama has lost the independent vote apparently.

http://news.yahoo.com/poll-herman-ca...174426567.html

12clicks 11-01-2011 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18529752)
Like what? A poorly-drawn banner of a guy shooting coins out of his ass? Is that your measure of success?

Like I said, you don't know me. You have no idea what I have.

and again, that *is* the point.
no one knows you.
you've never been worthy of notice except when you post nonsense.

shout "war criminal" again. it makes you look intelligent.:1orglaugh

directfiesta 11-01-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18529696)
Morons like you that still believe in him are doing so like he's a deity, you see the unemployment rate at over 9% for almost his entire presidency and talk how he's adding more jobs that the 3 last presidents, and you think I've got problems?

You're the one that thinks he's walking on water, I know it's some glass he's got propped up under the water.

Thanks for the name calling ... Being called ' moron ' by you is a compliment ... like a negative multiplying another negative, giving a positive ...

YOU are the one that said you didn`t like him from day one , so performance was not an issue, unless you are Miss Cleo . In fact, you HATE him ...

If I was a voter, I would not be happy to vote for Obama , in fact displeased , but when you look at the other side , the choice is clear .

Babaganoosh 11-01-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18529932)
and again, that *is* the point.
no one knows you.
you've never been worthy of notice except when you post nonsense.

shout "war criminal" again. it makes you look intelligent.:1orglaugh

Just because *you* don't know me doesn't mean shit.

nation-x 11-01-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18529915)
If the election were held today?

Cain wins 43% to 41%
Obama has lost the independent vote apparently.

http://news.yahoo.com/poll-herman-ca...174426567.html

If you got those numbers from a poll, I wouldn't put much weight on them... Cain doesn't have a chance in hell of beating Obama on a bad day for Obama. Those are the facts from my perspective.

I agree that Obama has lost a great majority of the Independent vote... but a lot of that has to do with the fact that they made a HUGE mistake in their first year agenda. He should have spent way more political capital addressing the economy instead of pushing HCR. I blame a lot of that on the DNC and his advisers. He certainly owns a share of the blame as well... he was tone deaf. That HCR agenda spurned the Tea Party, Glenn Beck, Fox News and the rest of it and another year of right wing talking points as headlines. Axelrod should be fired for allowing that to happen with little interference and Plouffe right along with him.

This brings up another point... soon the Supreme Court will take up HCR. The results of that will mean a lot in 2012 and you can bet money on it.

Robbie 11-01-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18530016)
If you got those numbers from a poll, I wouldn't put much weight on them... Cain doesn't have a chance in hell of beating Obama on a bad day for Obama. Those are the facts from my perspective.

Why would you think that?

Do you think that Americans who aren't caught up in any particular political party will or won't vote their pocketbook?

Dude...seriously. If the economy turns around and people go to work: Obama wins. It it's in the tank? ANYBODY will beat him.

I'm pulling for the economy to turn around and Obama to win. And then I'm pulling for the current version of "Obama-Care" to be found unconstitutional.

I'd like to see Obama be successful. But quite frankly...I'm intrigued by a "black man VS black man" for president scenario.
I truly think Obama has been a much needed inspiration to young black kids.

And guys like Cain show black kids that black people are not puppets and can have different political philosophies just like anybody else.

Bottom line...let's all hope that the economy turns around and Obama is successful. That means we are all successful.
And if he can't do the job? Get someone in that can.

As Bill Maher (a big Obama supporter and ultra-liberal) says when he criticizes Obama and his crowd boos: "He's your president, not your boyfriend"

12clicks 11-01-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18529967)
Just because *you* don't know me doesn't mean shit.

sadly for you. it really does

nation-x 11-01-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18530090)
Why would you think that?

Do you think that Americans who aren't caught up in any particular political party will or won't vote their pocketbook?

Dude...seriously. If the economy turns around and people go to work: Obama wins. It it's in the tank? ANYBODY will beat him.

I'm pulling for the economy to turn around and Obama to win. And then I'm pulling for the current version of "Obama-Care" to be found unconstitutional.

I'd like to see Obama be successful. But quite frankly...I'm intrigued by a "black man VS black man" for president scenario.
I truly think Obama has been a much needed inspiration to young black kids.

And guys like Cain show black kids that black people are not puppets and can have different political philosophies just like anybody else.

Bottom line...let's all hope that the economy turns around and Obama is successful. That means we are all successful.
And if he can't do the job? Get someone in that can.

As Bill Maher (a big Obama supporter and ultra-liberal) says when he criticizes Obama and his crowd boos: "He's your president, not your boyfriend"

I can show you another poll ran by Fox news that says that 52% of people polled would either like to see Obama re-elected or don't care either way.

I am just saying that if it were Cain vs Obama today... Obama would win. Cain may be currently leading among Republican primary voters but that certainly doesn't mean he leads Obama in a national election. You have to look at where he has support and where he doesn't have support... and in the big electoral vote states... Obama still leads.

flashfire 11-01-2011 12:36 PM

that is the scary thing...you think its bad now? can you imagine with one of those GOP clowns in charge

Vendzilla 11-01-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18529849)
Tuna from a can is cooked to high hell. One of the reasons that it tastes so different from a tuna steak.

Actually, Sushi is not just raw fish as many think it is, Sushi can be cooked as well

I use to deep sea fish for Albacore, there is no comparison between the two as you stated

nation-x 11-01-2011 12:47 PM

@Robbie - It's interesting that Yahoo has that report... according to RealClearPolitics.com which certainly isn't considered a liberal source, Rasmussen (which is the poll they cited) has Obama leading 43/38 - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-2003.html

EDIT: Aah... if you look at the poll from 10/15 it has those numbers Yahoo quoted.

Rasmussen Reports 10/14 - 10/15 1000 LV 41 43

Vendzilla 11-01-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18529938)
Thanks for the name calling ... Being called ' moron ' by you is a compliment ... like a negative multiplying another negative, giving a positive ...

YOU are the one that said you didn`t like him from day one , so performance was not an issue, unless you are Miss Cleo . In fact, you HATE him ...

If I was a voter, I would not be happy to vote for Obama , in fact displeased , but when you look at the other side , the choice is clear .

I didn't like him from day one because he promised to send more troops to Afghanistan.

nation-x 11-01-2011 12:50 PM

According to another set of polls... Romney is clearly the leader of the pack against Obama... and it's why I said I was most worried about him.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...andidates.html

Vendzilla 11-01-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18529879)
Can you read? I clearly said I WANT him to get the nomination... I am certainly not afraid that Cain would get elected anymore than I was that Sarah Palin would be Vice President. Both are non starters... Cain doesn't have a chance of becoming President because he doesn't even really have a campaign for one... and secondly, he is a hardcore right winger. Even Bush had enough sense to run in the middle.

Personally, I am concerned that Romney or Huntsman might become the nominee... none of the others have a chance of getting elected in the General Election except maybe Perry and I have serious doubts that he can regain his footing. Only people who watch too much Fox News think any of the others are viable candidates.

I think Romney will end up as the nominee. If a viable third party candidate appears that the Tea Party decides to back... Romney is toast... if I were in charge of the Democratic Party, I would do my best to find one and work to get him some recognition.

See this is where you loose me, you are clearly democrat thinking, so why would Cain appeal to you? You're not his demographic, he's going after conservatives and gaining ground.

I'm going to vote for who ever is running again Obama, that simple, if you ran against him, I would vote for you, if Hilary did, I would vote for her.

Vendzilla 11-01-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18530249)
According to another set of polls... Romney is clearly the leader of the pack against Obama... and it's why I said I was most worried about him.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...andidates.html

LMAO, those polls are a week old

nation-x 11-01-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18530264)
LMAO, those polls are a week old

Yeah... and Cain has 2 scandals now that he didn't have before...

Sexual Harassment
Illegal Campaign Funding

nation-x 11-01-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18530259)
See this is where you loose me, you are clearly democrat thinking, so why would Cain appeal to you? You're not his demographic, he's going after conservatives and gaining ground.

I'm going to vote for who ever is running again Obama, that simple, if you ran against him, I would vote for you, if Hilary did, I would vote for her.

I want him to get the nomination because Obama would crush him like a bug... There isn't much more they can come up with against Obama... Cain hasn't even started to be vetted.

Buff 11-01-2011 01:25 PM

Notice the mindless, implicit paradigm in the original post that if you hate Obama you must automatically be a Republican. The plutocrats have succeeded in creating a false dichotomy for the plebeians to argue about while nothing changes in the real world.

nation-x 11-01-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Buff (Post 18530354)
Notice the mindless, implicit paradigm in the original post that if you hate Obama you must automatically be a Republican. The plutocrats have succeeded in creating a false dichotomy for the plebeians to argue about while nothing changes in the real world.

I don't see where he said that everyone that hates Obama is a Republican... he just ignored anyone that falls into the category of "Obama hater" that isn't a Republican because the political reality is that we are living under two party rule. Everyone else is really insignificant in the conversation.

Babaganoosh 11-01-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18530154)
sadly for you. it really does

Get over yourself. You're irrelevant, you're just too stupid and and arrogant to know it.

Vendzilla 11-01-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18530381)
I don't see where he said that everyone that hates Obama is a Republican.

Looks like that to me!

Hey Obama Haters...
I keep forgetting, which of your GOP retards is gonna beat Obama in 2012?

Vendzilla 11-01-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18530286)
Yeah... and Cain has 2 scandals now that he didn't have before...

Sexual Harassment
Illegal Campaign Funding

top two http://www.politico.com/2012-electio...dential-polls/

Robbie 11-01-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18530539)

Holy shit...Cain is beating Perry in the Texas GOP Primary polls! Wow!

And to nation-x : No matter how you slice it...I think those polls you showed and the ones I showed both say that Cain is a serious contender. The MEDIA is making fun of him...but to people with no particular party affiliation (independent minded voters) he is clearly the favorite. And I think the media trying to derail him is gonna backfire.

My gut feeling is that a majority of people who aren't party-line voters (dem or repub) are sick and tired of being told who they should and shouldn't vote for.

I'd love to see two black guys in the general election. I think it's indicative of how far we've come as a nation. And I think it would be inspirational to young black people.
It shows that blacks don't need to be "helped" anymore than a white person. In my opinion it gives them something to strive for and WORK towards instead of a feeling of hopelessness and thinking they are going to have to live their lives on federal programs.

BFT3K 11-01-2011 03:08 PM

I am all for an Obama vs Cain election.

Nothing would be funnier!

Can you say BLOWOUT?

Let's do it!

http://jbyp.tfmostudios.com/wp-conte...0/CAIN2012.jpg

FlexxAeon 11-01-2011 03:14 PM

i just want to say that it is deliciously delicious that NOW Cain wants to play his race card calling his accusations a 'lynching'

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DONE!

so on the OT we have:

horny cain?
drunk perry?
imbecile bachman?

nah - repubs better go with mormon romney! :pimp

uno 11-01-2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18526673)
I was thinking earlier this morning while I was fondling myself in the shower....

It seems that potential candidates climb their way to the top, only to be knocked down. Bachman, Perry, and now Cain. Next up is Newt. However, one guy seems to be constant - Mitt.

That's my guess.

Newt isn't going anywhere. Neither is Santorum. Romney will be the nominee.

mafia_man 11-01-2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18526569)
You're so predictable.

It also got a war criminal reelected.

Obama or Bush? They're both war criminals.

Robbie 11-01-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18530601)
I am all for an Obama vs Cain election.

Nothing would be funnier!

Can you say BLOWOUT?

Let's do it!

Not sure if anything is "funny" right now to all the people hurting in this economy.

I say we get this mess straightened out. If Obama can pull his shit together and fix the economy he gets re-elected. If not? He is going to lose.

I wish he would be successful and THEN pull out of the race.

I don't think any of these crooks should be allowed to "serve" (translation "steal") more than one term in ANY elected position.


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