ter·ror·ism   [ter-uh-riz-uhm]
noun
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

I've never supported big gov.

The gov has always spent money, it's always stimulated in various ways, even when the gov was small.

It depends on the regulation, do I support Corps not being able to dump chemicals into the water? Of course.... do I support a reg that says I can't shoot the fucking woodpecker that pecks on my house? Fuck no... :)

The Marxists need to create a class enemy to motivate the masses towards armed revolution. It is their standard ploy...... and it is very appealing to uneducated useful idiots who blame their failures on imaginary enemies. The Jews are usually a convenient target...... as seems to be the case again this time. History never stops repeating itself it seems. :disgust

The government giving taxpayer money to its favored constituents is the entire crux of the whole problem. You either understand that or you don't. Most of the OWS mutts just want the government handouts to come in their direction. If you are opposed to big government you want to to stop entirely. There is a huge difference.

Our Country was formed because of same elite powers that have taken over again.

Is it really hard to think of who/what the mystical 1% is when every founding father spoke of them and of it happening again?

You are so much smarter than this.

NOOOOOOO ..... 12clicks is part of the 1% ...

He said so yesterday .... We all know that he makes money out of his ass ......

That issue is due to the gov being too big in general... if it wasn't so big, it would simply go out to the proper people.

I'm sure some at OWS want that, the majority though want all bailouts and too big to fail, bullshit to stop... so while the little guy is getting his teeth kicked in, they're getting bailouts and living the life - on our tax dime. Only a fool wouldn't a little pissed about that.

Small gov does not mean no gov...

too many people who claimed to be military sit back and do nothing - about time real soldiers stand up with americans, their entire oath is horseshit unless they do stuff like this. for or against the cause, our military should be protecting protestors not shooting tear gas at them.

IT IS OUR RIGHT TO GATHER AND ASSEMBLE hate it all ya want, but the bill of rights protects us from DOMESTIC ENEMIES too

Here here, have a beer. :pimp

exaactly, no one on gfy is really 1%er to be honest - yes there is wealth but everyone for the most part is still worker bees here, even the owners of programs work and are far from 1%

Only a fool would think that the solution to big government fraud and waste is even more big government fraud and waste. You either want it to stop or you are looking for your own handout. It is pretty simple really. The OWS mutts are whining for more handouts. Personally I just want the government to stop stealing my money and giving it to their friends.

The idea that increasing government spending will somehow reduce government corruption is so insane as to not be worthy of a counter argument. The idea that people who support more stimulus (otherwise known as government spending) and higher taxes also oppose big government has to be the most Orwellian thing I have ever heard. :error

We've had higher taxes on the top brackets forever, usually much worse than it is now. Bush is the idiot that started a war while cutting taxes on the rich and even his plan was supposed to expire. Government is required, war and corruption is not. We are supposed to hold these idiots accountable and as soon as someone tries you cry all over GFY. Make up your fucking mind.

I never said the stimulus was a solution.

I don't need a handout at that the stimulus wouldn't help me.

That's why I don't agree with the bailouts.

I never said increasing gov spending would reduce anything in the gov.

Yes, I support helping our States and people with our money vs. spending it wars and bailouts for other countries banks. Once we actually have higher taxes, I will oppose them. Until then I will enjoy some of the lowest taxes we've had over the last 90 years or so.

AR-15s?

Everyone knows that real revolutionaries use AK-47s.

That could be because jobless vets and others being tossed out of their homes by the very same rat bastards that got a bailout from the US taxpayers are just a wee bit pissed off.

But then again that's just a guess on my part.


Oddly enough you seem to.

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wtf i was wondering where Jek Tono Porkins from star wars ended up

http://joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-...10/porkins.jpg

glad to see he found another job :thumbsup


they do have the right to do what their doing tho

Fuck this discussion is funny
People that hate the Tea Party who gathered peacfully
http://reason.com/assets/mc/jwalker/2010_09/protest.jpg

love the 99% who
http://images.blippitt.com/wp-conten...lyn-Bridge.gif

And the progressives hate and are afraid of this
http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2008/...5assault_2.jpg

Untill they see this coming for them
http://cdn.newsone.com/files/2009/05/riot-police.jpg

Funny how reality kicks in for people when things don't go their way

Not as accurate, shoot an AR-15, one shot and the next 10 will hit the same spot

Tear gas manufacturing = jobs!

No this could get bloody.

It took exactly 1 shot to start the Civil war .

People hate the tea party because they are hypocrites. Most of them supported Bush when he burned through the surplus and created more debt than any president before him, yet when Obama becomes president all of a sudden its a problem. Where were they when Bush was giving out bailouts and burning through cash? Masturbating to the Iraq war on FOX News?

I took the same oath.

But you have to define "domestic" and when your facing off the local police with an assault rifle, you need to be very very careful about the words you use.

I think your wrong.

The CNN article talks about the 1%:

Your article talks about the top 400 households and their income. It doesn't discuss the top 1%, and was written over a year ago before the term was a household thing.

So what do you expect the soldiers to do? Stand up and slaughter the Oakland police?

Seems the police was dealing with a lot more than just protesters last night:

The city said conditions at the plaza had begun to deteriorate by the second week of the protests, with police, fire and medical responders reporting they were denied access to the plaza for service calls. The city also said it had received reports of a sexual assault and a severe beating, and that sanitation had worsened a rodent control problem in the plaza. Officials also said the plaza was damaged by graffiti, litter and vandalism.

(source: Yahoo news)

So you have a sexual assault, a beating, people crapping in public, vandalism, and graffiti. But you want to the police to just go home?

This is why I can't support this. This is protest with no vision, no direction, no goals, no leadership, who just bitch like little babies - and the only result is they sucking up our tax dollars who have to deal with this crap.

Yeah it's so horrible they invited them back today. None of that is exaggerated at all. :1orglaugh

Did you read the article? All CNN did was post a chart to say what the 1% was based off the tax system, the article doesn't prove that at any point. Read the comments, they're saying basically the same thing as me.

The real top 1% have been around for hundreds of years (really longer), they are the reason our Country was founded, they are what the founded fathers EACH warned us about....

It's not really hard to fathom who they really are in the scale of things....

Kent State was a turning point; it united the opposition to the War in Vietnam and galvanized the nation into support of that cause -- the 4 dead in Ohio did not die in vain.

That gives John Law the right to smash a guy's skull for pissing in his city park?

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homie, i live in new orleans, this happens on bourbon st every single night lol :winkwink:

sounds like mardi gras

Yea this was my thoughts as well. It's why I said in the other topic, that the police escalating things in Oakland was a big mistake. The police escalated things when they didn't need to be escalated and now all the other protestors will have to assume the same is coming for them.

It is interesting to see guys that one would assume are more conservative orientated showing up in defense of this movement. I said in the beginning that both the tea party and OWS should find common ground and I almost assumed there were many of the sensible tea party supporters were likely already at these protests. (ie the guys not waving Fox news banners but rather ones wanting actual change)

Lets just hope this doesn't also draw out the crazies that just want to start shit because they think they are cowboys. Once guns are involved it can become ugly very fast. IMO the guns should always be left until there is no other choice.

Don't be an idiot. There always has been a top 1%. And there will always be a top 1%. We can take the top 1%, take everything from them and make them homeless, and instantly we'll have a new crop of people in the top 1% - who will then become the next target.

This is what our founding fathers warned us about huh? Newsflash - our founding fathers were the top 1% back then. Ever been to Mount Vernon? George Washington owned a 500 acre plantation before the American Revolution, and before he became the first President.

It won't be long, aside from Fox News that ran a report saying "what happened to the protester is unknown" there are conservative leaning people speaking out about this. Even Joe fucking Scarborough called it a disgrace. As soon as the knuckleheads have permission from their overlords to say something is bad their story will change. In a week it will be "What happened to him was bullshit and the cops should be punished but these protests are still stupid!"

Oakland PD promised to investigate this as vigorously as they would a fatal police shooting by the way. Let's see how that goes.

Before the internet I seriously had no idea people could be this dumb. I mean I knew some were but not so damn many. 15 years on the www and nothing surprises me.

here is good read about long history of police violence against veterans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matthi...b_1040077.html

thats because they know we can shoot better than they can, most cops can't shoot for shit

I sincerely hope the protests spread even further to all major cities in the US, and that the shear # of peaceful protesters grows 20 fold. It is time that the US govt (which serves Oil, Insurance and Banks only) fear its own people, and realize that @ss fucking its own people has to stop.

Those that served in Iraq and are now returning home, dont have good paying jobs waiting for them.

No body cares what you have to say about anything. You lost all credibility the moment you cashed that check from XXX.

You seem very confused....

I just said we've had them at least 250 years, I know we will always have them, and nobody is wanting to take away everything they have.

Wealth is only "part" of the pie... it is not what defines the 1%. Washington damn sure not part of the 1% back then, he was part of the 99% that split us apart from the 1%. Just because he had money, does not mean he was corrupted - which is one thing the man wasn't.

Our founding fathers were, revolutionaries.... without question.

I noticed you started a bunch of threads that seem to support the OWS movement.

Perhaps you should spend less time online crying about it, and more time physically protesting on location. I'm sure there is one near you.