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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942
    #1

    Why paysites are fucked.

    The market is declining and the reason is one. It's easier to be a pirate and live off piracy than it is to produce and sell a product.

    http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sc...w=1360&bih=784

    Click on some of the sites and see who advertises their and their representatives here.

    Juicy, Vendzilla, papillon, Amakings, AFF, Fling and I'm sure more.

    How many there earn from piracy directly or indirectly and how many support them?

    I'm so fucking glad I made my money while there was still a thriving porn business.

    Eventually everyone with an income from paysites will be screwed.

    Then what?



    At least I can wave goodbye and live off what we made.

    So long as Eva keeps washing peoples floors.



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    • porno jew
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Nov 2006
      • 10166
      #2
      post proof amakings advertises on pirate sites or ban.

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        • twistyneck
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jan 2002
          • 4660
          #3
          Welcome to 1996.

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            • porno jew
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Nov 2006
              • 10166
              #4
              freeones does ok with amakings.

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                • Harmon
                  ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 20012
                  #5
                  [email protected]

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                    • porno jew
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 10166
                      #6
                      that sums up this stupid thread. thank you.

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                        • DWB
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 31779
                          #7
                          Originally posted by porno jew
                          post proof amakings advertises on pirate sites or ban.
                          Well, they actually are pirates.

                          Having said that, I'm going to become a pirate too.

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                            • wehateporn
                              Promoting Debate on GFY
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 27176
                              #8
                              Originally posted by DWB
                              Having said that, I'm going to become a pirate too.
                              If I were you I'd go down the Ninja route like Fris

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                                • TheDoc
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 13827
                                  #9
                                  Yes, it is a fact that when a person fails, errr falls they blame everything and everyone else for the problems they are responsible for.
                                  ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                  It's all disambiguation

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                                    • L-Pink
                                      working on my tan
                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 39151
                                      #10
                                      Not again .............

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                                        • Brujah
                                          Beer Money Baron
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 22157
                                          #11
                                          When is the Markham Adult Paysite Bible being published? I'd like to order a copy.

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                                            • DWB
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 31779
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by wehateporn
                                              If I were you I'd go down the Ninja route like Fris

                                              I just wanna rock an eye patch. Pirate, rough sailor, or war vet... whatever it takes.

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                                                • Paul Markham
                                                  Too old to care
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 52942
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                                  When is the Markham Adult Paysite Bible being published? I'd like to order a copy.
                                                  Probably after you're gone from adult and flippin burgers.

                                                  Funniest thing is you guys actually believed online was the future.

                                                  Guess you didn't realise it wouldn't include many of you.



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                                                    • seeandsee
                                                      Check SIG!
                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                      • 50945
                                                      #14
                                                      That is not only problem...

                                                      Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                      If I were you I'd go down the Ninja route like Fris

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                                                        • TheDoc
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 13827
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                          Funniest thing is you guys actually believed online was the future.

                                                          Guess you didn't realise it wouldn't include many of you.
                                                          Or you...
                                                          ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                          It's all disambiguation

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                                                            • Barefootsies
                                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 42635
                                                              #16
                                                              Should You Email Your Members?

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                                                              Enough Said.

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                                                                • EukerVoorn
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Aug 2011
                                                                  • 1423
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Saying that there is no future for paysites is very contradicting with the statement that only pirates have a future, after all, all the content on pirate sites come from paysites in the first place. Paysites are the source. And with that, they have the power. If all paysites vanish, all there is left for pirate sites to show is old content and if there is one market in which new products are demanded all the time, it's the porn market. People can be happy with 10 year old cars or 10 year old TVs or 200 year old "Grand Mother's Receipy" but not with old porn.

                                                                  We just need to know how to deal with the piracy. I already know it.

                                                                  Our sales were great over the last weekend by the way, it was madness. After Sunday it got a bit calmer but that's because it's the end of the month, next week sales will be good again.

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                                                                    • CamTraffic
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2008
                                                                      • 6538
                                                                      #18
                                                                      You should see some pay sites out there , no wonder people go to Tubes...
                                                                      I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up.
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                                                                        • BIGTYMER
                                                                          Junior Achiever
                                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                                          • 17066
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Harmon
                                                                          I think he's short a chromosome.

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                                                                            • NewNick
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2009
                                                                              • 7229
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by BIGTYMER
                                                                              I think he's short a chromosome.


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                                                                                • CyberHustler
                                                                                  Masterbaiter
                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                  • 28728
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I just typed a nice explanation with tips and advice... but fuck yall.
                                                                                  “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                                                    • 96ukssob
                                                                                      So Fucking Banananananas
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 12991
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      essentially you are saying that if you stop feeding the virus that is piracy, then piracy will die?

                                                                                      what about the people who do not have the virus?
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                                                                                        • xNetworx
                                                                                          So Fucking What
                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                          • 14445
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          i can haz pornhub?

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                                                                                            • PR_Glen
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Oct 2006
                                                                                              • 9058
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              webmaster at pimproll dot com

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                                                                                                • Bladewire
                                                                                                  StraightBro
                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                  • 56228
                                                                                                  #25


















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                                                                                                    • FlexxAeon
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                      • 3765
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                                      yep.....
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                                                                                                        • DamianJ
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                                          • 15808
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                          Funniest thing is you guys actually believed anything I ever said
                                                                                                          I know. How many times to you need to be proven a liar for people to give up on you?

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                                                                                                            • porno jew
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                                                                              • 10166
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                              Probably after you're gone from adult and flippin burgers.

                                                                                                              Funniest thing is you guys actually believed online was the future.

                                                                                                              Guess you didn't realise it wouldn't include many of you.
                                                                                                              you are projecting old man.

                                                                                                              it is you that has been left in the garbage dump of history.

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                                                                                                                • SykkBoy
                                                                                                                  Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                  • 19969
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Because they aren't upselling to e-cigarette sponsors ;-)
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                                                                                                                    • Wizzo
                                                                                                                      2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                                                                                      • Nov 2000
                                                                                                                      • 15224
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Funny enough, I was just talking to a new a client of ours, he's been in the adult biz for about 2years now and so knows nothing about a time when their weren't tubes,torrents, and etc... So he built his paysite on the fact they are out there and he is doing around 30sales a day and with a ROI of 80% on the traffic he buys for it and was looking to buy even more because of it. So I guess it's not dead yet, just changing as does all things in life...
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                                                                                                                        • ottopottomouse
                                                                                                                          She is ugly, bad luck.
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2010
                                                                                                                          • 13177
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by bossku69
                                                                                                                          essentially you are saying that if you stop feeding the virus that is piracy, then piracy will die?

                                                                                                                          what about the people who do not have the virus?
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                                                                                                                            • B.Barnato
                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                              • Nov 2010
                                                                                                                              • 3618
                                                                                                                              #32

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                                                                                                                                • porno jew
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                  • 10166
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  sorry that's impossible.

                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                                                                                                  Funny enough, I was just talking to a new a client of ours, he's been in the adult biz for about 2years now and so knows nothing about a time when their weren't tubes,torrents, and etc... So he built his paysite on the fact they are out there and he is doing around 30sales a day and with a ROI of 80% on the traffic he buys for it and was looking to buy even more because of it. So I guess it's not dead yet, just changing as does all things in life...

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                                                                                                                                    • stocktrader23
                                                                                                                                      Let's do some business.
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 18781
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Not this shit again. There is more amateur porn on the net for free than ever before. It has permeated non adult hangouts at this point. The paysite model has needed to evolve for several years at this point. I have a feeling that the smart people know this and are just riding the train into the ground but are well prepared for the future. Hell, MyFreeCams.com put the cam market on it's head and it won't be going anywhere anytime soon. A perfect response to the current state of the industry.


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                                                                                                                                        • Jel
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                          • 6904
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          100,000 pirates. A month

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                                                                                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 52942
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by bossku69
                                                                                                                                              essentially you are saying that if you stop feeding the virus that is piracy, then piracy will die?

                                                                                                                                              what about the people who do not have the virus?
                                                                                                                                              No however it will be reduced.

                                                                                                                                              Ultimately those on piracy sites will move to Tubes, if by any miracle the pirates disappear. The slide continues down hill.



                                                                                                                                              Something for you guys to read.



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                                                                                                                                                • beks001
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                                                  • 1837
                                                                                                                                                  #37
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                                                                                                                                                    • Wizzo
                                                                                                                                                      2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2000
                                                                                                                                                      • 15224
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                                                                      sorry that's impossible.
                                                                                                                                                      I know, I'm trying to figure out how he manipulated the biller stats he showed me and I really think because he doesn't post on any boards that he just doesn't know he's not supposed to be making money today...
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                                                                                                                                                        • BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                                                          • 10764
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by B.Barnato
                                                                                                                                                          Cool gif

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                                                                                                                                                            • porno jew
                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                                              • 10166
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              why would anyone, take any advice from you, a complete failure at the internet?

                                                                                                                                                              just one reason.

                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                              No however it will be reduced.

                                                                                                                                                              Ultimately those on piracy sites will move to Tubes, if by any miracle the pirates disappear. The slide continues down hill.



                                                                                                                                                              Something for you guys to read.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Nautilus
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1631
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                                                                                                                                  Funny enough, I was just talking to a new a client of ours, he's been in the adult biz for about 2years now and so knows nothing about a time when their weren't tubes,torrents, and etc... So he built his paysite on the fact they are out there and he is doing around 30sales a day and with a ROI of 80% on the traffic he buys for it and was looking to buy even more because of it. So I guess it's not dead yet, just changing as does all things in life...
                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah changing, because tubes supported by scamming companing like yours are cannibalizing paysite sales and one succesful paysite owner that can live of off the traffic he buys from you comes at the expense of 100 other paysites whose sales are dead because they got their entire member areas stolen and posted for free to attract hordes of traffic.

                                                                                                                                                                  I just checked our DMCA log, 1059 infringing links removed from xhamster alone this year so far. They generated them millions of page views that were sold through your horsefucking piece of crap joke of a company, that's were you fags get that absurd amounts of traffic to sell, by providing thieves with the convenient way to monetize stolen property.

                                                                                                                                                                  Times are changing, yeah. But not because of legit innovation that you have to adapt to. Xhamster is not posting THEIR videos that are better and cheaper than ours. They are posting OUR videos and cocksuckers like you and hordes of other buttom feeders who make their coin by providing services to piracy sites call it "innovation" or "changing times" to justify their actions.

                                                                                                                                                                  I hope you bloody scammer will choke on money you made by helping pirates to rip our hard work.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • papill0n
                                                                                                                                                                      Unregistered Abuser
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                                                      • 15547
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                                      The market is declining and the reason is one. It's easier to be a pirate and live off piracy than it is to produce and sell a product.

                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sc...w=1360&bih=784

                                                                                                                                                                      Click on some of the sites and see who advertises their and their representatives here.

                                                                                                                                                                      Juicy, Vendzilla, papillon, Amakings, AFF, Fling and I'm sure more.

                                                                                                                                                                      How many there earn from piracy directly or indirectly and how many support them?

                                                                                                                                                                      I'm so fucking glad I made my money while there was still a thriving porn business.

                                                                                                                                                                      Eventually everyone with an income from paysites will be screwed.

                                                                                                                                                                      Then what?



                                                                                                                                                                      At least I can wave goodbye and live off what we made.

                                                                                                                                                                      So long as Eva keeps washing peoples floors.

                                                                                                                                                                      what the fuck are you talking about ?

                                                                                                                                                                      because I think you are dumber than a box of rocks you have drawn the conclusion I advertise where? pirate sites?

                                                                                                                                                                      fuck you really are a genius

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                                                                                                                                                                        • papill0n
                                                                                                                                                                          Unregistered Abuser
                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                                                          • 15547
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          if paysites are fucked why would anyone buy your content ?

                                                                                                                                                                          try thinking about what you are typing dopey

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                                                                                                                                                                            • papill0n
                                                                                                                                                                              Unregistered Abuser
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                                                              • 15547
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Nautilus
                                                                                                                                                                              Yeah changing, because tubes supported by scamming companing like yours are cannibalizing paysite sales and one succesful paysite owner that can live of off the traffic he buys from you comes at the expense of 100 other paysites whose sales are dead because they got their entire member areas stolen and posted for free to attract hordes of traffic.

                                                                                                                                                                              I just checked our DMCA log, 1059 infringing links removed from xhamster alone this year so far. They generated them millions of page views that were sold through your horsefucking piece of crap joke of a company, that's were you fags get that absurd amounts of traffic to sell, by providing thieves with the convenient way to monetize stolen property.

                                                                                                                                                                              Times are changing, yeah. But not because of legit innovation that you have to adapt to. Xhamster is not posting THEIR videos that are better and cheaper than ours. They are posting OUR videos and cocksuckers like you and hordes of other buttom feeders who make their coin by providing services to piracy sites call it "innovation" or "changing times" to justify their actions.

                                                                                                                                                                              I hope you bloody scammer will choke on money you made by helping pirates to rip our hard work.

                                                                                                                                                                              and this is the 100% fucking truth

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                                                                                                                                                                                • KillerK
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3406
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  u mad bro?


                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nautilus
                                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah changing, because tubes supported by scamming companing like yours are cannibalizing paysite sales and one succesful paysite owner that can live of off the traffic he buys from you comes at the expense of 100 other paysites whose sales are dead because they got their entire member areas stolen and posted for free to attract hordes of traffic.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I just checked our DMCA log, 1059 infringing links removed from xhamster alone this year so far. They generated them millions of page views that were sold through your horsefucking piece of crap joke of a company, that's were you fags get that absurd amounts of traffic to sell, by providing thieves with the convenient way to monetize stolen property.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Times are changing, yeah. But not because of legit innovation that you have to adapt to. Xhamster is not posting THEIR videos that are better and cheaper than ours. They are posting OUR videos and cocksuckers like you and hordes of other buttom feeders who make their coin by providing services to piracy sites call it "innovation" or "changing times" to justify their actions.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I hope you bloody scammer will choke on money you made by helping pirates to rip our hard work.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • HomerSimpson
                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 13826
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                                                                                                      freeones does ok with amakings.

                                                                                                                                                                                      nice stats man...
                                                                                                                                                                                      where do you amateur submit stuff on FreeOnes?
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