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Zoxxa 10-28-2011 10:45 PM

I specifically said the males post these photos, and thats true 95% of the time. Some of you may ask "what about self shot pics?". They obviously sent these photos to their boyfriends, and not to the whole world. The asshole boyfriends then uploaded them around the web and to their friends.

Brujah 10-29-2011 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18518280)
Just to back up Ama a bit:

http://hostones.com/temp/Roald/amakings.JPG

:2 cents:

Fuck, if Roald is only doing 1:743 the rest of us should just hang it up. :1orglaugh

Avalana 10-29-2011 01:59 AM

WatchMyGF does great for us. Added last night and instantly some cash, even without tons of uniques :-)

Thumbs for Amakings

onedree 10-29-2011 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18522685)
I get a LOT of submitted gf pics often submitted by the girl herself, and I know they are really submitted by her because I also often get removal requests from the girl explaining "I've changed my mind and no longer want these posted on the internet", of course I remove them ASAP, but what is the problem with allowing her to post her nude pics on my website?

On a daily basis we receive tons of user submitted photographs ... Our submission guidelines require a electronically submitted photo ID prior to any image being posted ...

We've also become somewhat skeptical of scanned IDs ... Over the years we have had three legal issues with women stating they never scanned their ID let alone submitting compromising photographs of themselves ...
Upon the woman's investigation the sources always turned out to be either a disgruntled boyfriend.. husband.. and even their girlfriends ...
If possible.. request a self shot of the woman holding her ID ...

Do not delete any emails as for they contain vital information of the sender in the event legal action takes place ...

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Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18522707)
The problem is, 99% of these people are not willing to give up their scanned IDs and signed documents. So there is no way to tell they are of legal age or not.

That percentage is a little high ... Offer cash incentives by way of contests.. girl of the month.. couple of the month including purchasing photo sets and videos and watch that submitted ID percentage drop to 40% ...

In this day and age money talks and if you're searching for unique amateur content this is the only way go ...

Great posting btw Zoxxa ... You gave me some ideas ... :)

patavax 10-29-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18522610)
Are those stats for ama or another program? Are you seeing the sudden ratio drop across multiple programs?

No, my stats are for another program but it is in the same niche as AMA.
I am sending some traffic to AMA too but it is just a little bit. My overall ratio with AMA is arround 1:1500 but it is with a very small amount of traffic. You can see the trends better as you send a whole lot of traffic.

I have seen a drop for other programs too. Also in other niches. The first 12 days of October were just amazing good and the rest of October is really shit. There are some days (like yesterday) with good sales but most of the days after the 13th were just really bad.

wehateporn 10-29-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18518633)
LOL ...
I would imagine sending 199513 unique hits like Roald they would be 1:750 ...
What about the rest of us ?


CamTraffic 11-03-2011 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18522659)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You did what all the other GF programs did. You start with hijacked, some underage, stolen content, and if you are smart enough you will restructure fast enough after you are making $30-50k a month to slowly become legit. Which you are "doing". This bullshit about blaming a content director is non-sense and insulting. In reality, you probably gathered content, made some money, then hired some grunt worker to gather content off boards and other gf programs for you and now you claim you had no idea what he was doing. Even though majority of your FHGs were stolen content. Poor you. Now you are trying to make yourself sound like superheroes "taking the high road".

Let's all be honest here for a moment, your licensed content will NEVER convert anything near the real deal. Stolen REAL homemade content is a gold mine if you are the first to scrape it from the source and send it out by the masses to your affiliates in promo tools. That's how the GF game works. Be first to steal. Buy all the content you want, there are ZERO content producers out there that can produce real looking GF content. Period.

Seriously, all you broke dicks out there have to do is borrow $1k from your mother. Spend $750 on high risk visa fee with CCBill, get a decent server for $250 or less. Buy a few domains, gather as much stolen content as you can. Build simple amateur looking tours, get them approved by visa with your bullshit wordpress member's area which only takes 1-3 weeks. Build promo tools for each paysite you create. Spam the hell out of webmaster forums and get your FHGs in tgps. Get your stolen videos on tubes with your illegal watermark. Wait for a month or two and you will be sitting on a profit of $5-10k. Keep building up your member base and don't forget to ass fuck people on double pre-checked cross sales. Thats where the real money is btw. I would recommend making deals with other webmasters that buy xsells for $25-30 a pop, because chargebacks will be heavy and you don't want that. Throw up some banners in your members area to some dating sites and other GF sites, you will make another couple grand a month. Oh, and lastly, don't forget to remove content immediately, otherwise you will be tied up in a U.S. court system ( Even if you are outside the US ) because you posted a nasty pic of an underage girl that is now looking for you to pay for her $100k university tuition. After a year of thinking you can actually fight this lawsuit and spending $50,000 on a lawyers to file bullshit motions that only piss off the court, you will realize you have no chance and settle for six figures. Even though you thought your retarded idea of blaming the minimum wage "content director" would cover your stupid ass.

So long story short, go ahead and start a GF program, just hope that when you get sued the underage girl only wants money and does not file criminal charges as well.

P.S. Keep up the good work Niktamer, "covering" your ass with bullshit posts that do nothing but help you sleep a little better at night.

looks like you got it all figured out :Oh crap

gleem 11-03-2011 07:57 AM

We are 100% legit, all docs & IDs are there, never stole content.


http://www.madporn.org/free-pics/Ang...madporn-03.jpg


http://www.madporn.org/free-pics/los...madporn-05.jpg

Far-L 11-03-2011 11:05 AM

Why complain when Homegrown can solve the problem?
 
I see these complaints about ratios and stolen content, even worse - underage content scraped from wherever - and I just want to freaking scream.

WHAT THE FUCKING FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!

If you value your business, care about not ripping off content, care about PROTECTING MINORS forchristsakes, then maybe it is high time you figured out what kind of company we are and why we have been around so long... and continue to convert.

Always been legal. Always been the real deal user submitted content. In fact - we have the distinction of being the FIRST company to collect authentic homemade videos and pics... And always have policed our content so that our affiliates and licensors have never, ever been put at risk. /rant

Stop fucking fuckity fuck fuck fucking around...

anexsia 11-03-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gleem (Post 18534215)

I second this, Revenge Bucks has some awesome content, rebills are crazy, and they pay on time...now I just gotta make some more blogs to send em more traffic!

Zoxxa 11-05-2011 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 18533873)
looks like you got it all figured out :Oh crap

Yes I do.

The GF sponsor in your sig ( http://www.girlfriendtraffic.com/ ) has the rights to these Dirty Daisy photos?

http://ultra5.com/1.jpg

http://ultra5.com/2.jpg


Her site: http://dirtydaisy.com/


Thats a small example, I can see dozens of pics that have been used on almost every GF site in the past 4 years on those tours.

Zoxxa 11-05-2011 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18534797)
I see these complaints about ratios and stolen content, even worse - underage content scraped from wherever - and I just want to freaking scream.

WHAT THE FUCKING FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!

If you value your business, care about not ripping off content, care about PROTECTING MINORS forchristsakes, then maybe it is high time you figured out what kind of company we are and why we have been around so long... and continue to convert.

Always been legal. Always been the real deal user submitted content. In fact - we have the distinction of being the FIRST company to collect authentic homemade videos and pics... And always have policed our content so that our affiliates and licensors have never, ever been put at risk. /rant

Stop fucking fuckity fuck fuck fucking around...



You guys are excellent, and one of the rare few cases that actually follow the law.
I assume you have large issues with many of these GF sites stealing your content all the time.

jscott 11-05-2011 08:31 AM

Amakings, we need to talk, about these chargebacks/refunds, it's really kinda outta control :(

DWB 11-05-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 18538719)
Amakings, we need to talk, about these chargebacks/refunds, it's really kinda outta control :(

Can't help but laugh at the guys getting burned by excessive chargebacks and refunds after they pushed sites that are well known for being 100% full of stolen content.

It's called Karma, and it's usually a bitch. :2 cents:

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signupdamnit 11-05-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18519899)
Uniques / signups / ratio
257840 351 1:734

Your input is valuable but if a sponsor were to start messing with affiliates in most cases you guys would be one of the last ones they'd screw with because you have volume and are high profile. It might not be the same for a smaller affiliate who sends 1/1000th of the traffic you guys do. I've long since suspected that some of the more shady players like to shave many of the little guys because it's harder for them to detect and they have less clout to do anything about it.

signupdamnit 11-05-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18538772)
Can't help but laugh at the guys getting burned by excessive chargebacks and refunds after they pushed sites that are well known for being 100% full of stolen content.

It's called Karma, and it's usually a bitch. :2 cents:

This is true. If someone screws someone else then odds are soon enough you'll be next if you aren't already being screwed by them already without realizing it. It's always been this way. Either someone is honest or they're not. There's very little in between when it comes to this business and affiliate programs.

jscott 11-05-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18538772)
Can't help but laugh at the guys getting burned by excessive chargebacks and refunds after they pushed sites that are well known for being 100% full of stolen content.

It's called Karma, and it's usually a bitch. :2 cents:

It's funny though actually, how these content guys like to fire away at gf sites...... about "stolen content" when their content are not even stolen LOL

.... the gf sites, true amateur stuff is much better content than any real content providers studio stuff

they are angry cuz they cant convert as well anymore and the gfs sites are (were) in prime time

but anyways...

jscott 11-05-2011 09:22 AM

ps, i dont mean to defend gf sites, i dont think they are totally right either

but just funny how ppl (mostly content ppl) take aim at them, take cheap shots at them, when they never even intend to use ANY of their contents, and if they do, usually by accident and they'll be more than happy to remove

wanna take aim at anyone, tubes/torrents, they aim to steal EVERYONES contents

porno jew 11-05-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 18538796)
It's funny though actually, how these content guys like to fire away at gf sites...... about "stolen content" when their content are not even stolen LOL

really now?

ParlourCash Karl 11-05-2011 09:54 AM

We have not had much success in promoting many programs other than ours, we did try AMA as well as others but with not much luck, possibly our traffic is not condusive to their taste, we can't coment on many other programs as we have never done well promoting others for some reason.....we make a very decent living but since May our programs have had a major sudden increase in sales, not doing anything different at all but the sales have closer to doubled, Sept was not that great but Oct was back to what it was prior, Nov is great so hope it carries on, we don't rely on affiliates as we do produce 95% of our own traffic and we are doing more sales than we did in 1993 which was a great year....let's hope it continues, 2011 could be our best year yet........here is hoping.......

DWB 11-05-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 18538796)
It's funny though actually, how these content guys like to fire away at gf sites...... about "stolen content" when their content are not even stolen LOL

You drunk and trolling tonight? You and I have discussed this before and you said then than you know many of these sites steal their content. Now you say it's not stolen? Ahhhh... you want your refunds and CBs taken care of. I get it now. :thumbsup

Besides the fact that I know a guy who is paid a salary to steal content for them, I'll also pretend their content is not stolen and hope that it helps everyone get paid, so they can do it all over again.

jscott 11-05-2011 10:57 AM

Huh? I have no idea what you are talking about. I do know that, most of the active bigger gf sites do not aim to steal any of your studio produced contents, aiming more to rip real amateur stuff that none of the people here at GFY own.

ALSO, I do know that they (and even me too) get tons of real submitted contents too.

There have been many threads and attacks on gf sites for using an image, here and there that is owned by content producers, and they usually take them offline VERY quickly, 99% of the time

Zoxxa 11-05-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 18538919)
Huh? I have no idea what you are talking about. I do know that, most of the active bigger gf sites do not aim to steal any of your studio produced contents, aiming more to rip real amateur stuff that none of the people here at GFY own.

ALSO, I do know that they (and even me too) get tons of real submitted contents too.

There have been many threads and attacks on gf sites for using an image, here and there that is owned by content producers, and they usually take them offline VERY quickly, 99% of the time


Do you require two forms of ID?
Do you require a photo of them holding the IDs?
Do you have a signed model release from each participate?

Thats good to know that you stand behind people that are stealing and spreading content that is partially underage and appealing to pedophiles. If they were stealing from content producers, at least then they could show a judge that they knew the girl's were of legal age.

Before we get too deep into this "argument", it is probably only fair that you know I was one of the first to create a GF empire ( Over 2 million surfers a day ) and establish the business model it has taken today in this industry. I currently have nothing to do with it, and I am only participating in this thread as a warning to others. I guarantee jail time is coming soon to some of you, I absolutely fucking guarantee it. That applies to you affiliates as well that pretend "I Knew Nothing!!!" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It's all fun and glorious until a much larger competitor with connections fucks your whole life.

Keep pushing Amakings and pretending you are on the "good side" of this argument, and see where it gets you. Good luck.

Zoxxa 11-05-2011 10:11 PM

Just to be dead serious for a moment, we all joke around a lot around here. A lot of idiots around here make excuses for GF programs and sites because they are converting better than normal paysites. I sincerely hope that at least one person has read what I have typed and realizes that life gets dead serious really fast when you get served with a distributing child pornography lawsuit worth twice as much as your house. That is of course, if you aren't arrested first up on criminal charges. Let's see how much you support these programs after that happens.

porno jew 11-05-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18539743)
Just to be dead serious for a moment, we all joke around a lot around here. A lot of idiots around here make excuses for GF programs and sites because they are converting better than normal paysites. I sincerely hope that at least one person has read what I have typed and realizes that life gets dead serious really fast when you get served with a distributing child pornography lawsuit worth twice as much as your house. That is of course, if you aren't arrested first up on criminal charges. Let's see how much you support these programs after that happens.

i agree. and funny how the program owners push that off onto the affiliates.

jscott 11-05-2011 11:28 PM

i'm not taking any side btw,
so you have that part mistaken

I just think it's funny how some content producers take aim at gf sites, when they aren't usually the ones even stealing from them

DWB 11-06-2011 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 18538919)
Huh? I have no idea what you are talking about. I do know that, most of the active bigger gf sites do not aim to steal any of your studio produced contents, aiming more to rip real amateur stuff that none of the people here at GFY own.

ALSO, I do know that they (and even me too) get tons of real submitted contents too.

There have been many threads and attacks on gf sites for using an image, here and there that is owned by content producers, and they usually take them offline VERY quickly, 99% of the time

Yes, AMA steals and they pay Filipinos to steal it for them.

Sure, some get submissions AFTER THEY OPEN. Not before.

That said, not ALL of the GF sites steal. But most of them do.

DWB 11-06-2011 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 18539787)

I just think it's funny how some content producers take aim at gf sites, when they aren't usually the ones even stealing from them

I send several DMCAs a week JUST to GF sites. They steal from everyone.

The do what they have to do, and I accept that, but lets all just be honest about what it is and call it as it is. No need to try to cover for them. I'm not even mad at them, but I'm not going to blow smoke up anyone's ass and pretend it's not happening.


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