What the OWS demonstration really looks like(pics)

[Minte]

Just got home from a long weekend in NYC. I went down to Wall Street to see what was going on there and was surprised to see how unimpressive the demonstration actually is.
Tiny park right next to the WTC site with a few hundred(maybe) people. I saw a couple of ladies knitting and one fellow beating a drum. Of course the park was surrounded by media filming from angles to make it look big. Pardon the quality of the pics,they are from my phone.

I have been at demonstrations in Madison that were 10 times larger,when the Brathaus ran out of beer before closing.

[Phoenix]

why is it showwn to be so big and violent on cnn?
complete with police violence against citizens...weird

[baddog]

I would not be surprised if there have been instances of larger crowds but as it gets colder and wetter you can expect the enthusiasm to drop significantly.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

why is it showwn to be so big and violent on cnn?
complete with police violence against citizens...weird

Because that sells better than what Minte provided?

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

why is it showwn to be so big and violent on cnn?
complete with police violence against citizens...weird

I wondered that too. But that is it. There was a police presence,but no where near as many as on Time square last night.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by baddog

I would not be surprised if there have been instances of larger crowds but as it gets colder and wetter you can expect the enthusiasm to drop significantly.

I took those pics friday,and the weather in NewYork was beautiful. 65 and partly sunny.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Minte

I took those pics friday,and the weather in NewYork was beautiful. 65 and partly sunny.

Then they should all be gone by next weekend.

[raymor]

Thanks for the pics. It's always nice to see such things without the professional level spin.

[TheDoc]

The result of limited protest rights.... sad.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by raymor

Thanks for the pics. It's always nice to see such things without the professional level spin.

It was for sure professional spun, away from it being anything... but no worries the 1000's of Google Images from cell phones and amateurs paint a clear picture for anyone willing to look.

[epitome]

How does that explain the 700 arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge? Was that a surge or have things died down?

I think the Occupy Fort Lauderdale only had a couple hundred people, too. Similar to the local tea parties. I remember when I was living in Annapolis, MD they made the tea party things seem big in local media but when I drove by it was a few people holding signs.

Too bad the movements can't find some common ground to stand on and move forward as a unified group.

[epitome]

Come to think of it, things must have died down.

I was watching the live feed on Justin.tv or something similar a few weeks back and it was WAY more busy than that. Think it was the same weekend as all of the arrests.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

The result of limited protest rights.... sad.

There weren't any limitations in Madison when the unions were raising hell.The city was like a zoo. And after the fact,they pushed for recall elections and got some. They are still at it here as they are working overtime to get a recall election for Governor Walker.

The capital square here is large. And it was standing room only for weeks.

[Adult Insider Dave]

How cold is it out there today? Would suck to sleep out there.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Adult Insider Dave

How cold is it out there today? Would suck to sleep out there.

It was nearly 60 when I caught my flight home this morning.

[Supz]

Originally Posted by baddog

I would not be surprised if there have been instances of larger crowds but as it gets colder and wetter you can expect the enthusiasm to drop significantly.

These are just the people who are sleeping in the park, it seems they coordinate efforts during protests in time square and other places and much bigger crowds turn out. Social Media at its finest.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Supz

These are just the people who are sleeping in the park, it seems they coordinate efforts during protests in time square and other places and much bigger crowds turn out. Social Media at its finest.

I stayed at the Millenium on Times Square. The only hooligan I saw since thursday was the Naked Cowboy.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Minte

There weren't any limitations in Madison when the unions were raising hell.The city was like a zoo. And after the fact,they pushed for recall elections and got some. They are still at it here as they are working overtime to get a recall election for Governor Walker.

The capital square here is large. And it was standing room only for weeks.

Madison isn't NYC....

Plenty of random OWS protest shots on google images that show it had a shit ton of people, but today they aren't allowed to live that one tiny little park without resistance, which has rules applied to it too.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Madison isn't NYC....

Plenty of random OWS protest shots on google images that show it had a shit ton of people, but today they aren't allowed to live that one tiny little park without resistance, which has rules applied to it too.

Yes that's true. Madison has a population of around 400,000 and at the peak it was estimated over 70,000 demonstrators were out.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Minte

Yes that's true. Madison has a population of around 400,000 and at the peak it was estimated over 70,000 demonstrators were out.

What an odd twist....

Have NY do with WI did, and see how the big the protest in NYC is.

That was peoples lives, at that time, getting ripped apart, and that's going to fire up a shit ton of people, just like it did in Madison. The people could actually see/feel/witness themselves getting bent over....

The OWS group is protesting what has been happening for decades and more directly 3 years ago and recent events of course. People still have no idea wtf is going on with the banks, wall street or even OWS.

If you lived in WI, you knew wtf was going on, and it hit almost everyone. They're VERY different.... so much, it's odd you even tried to relate them.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by baddog

I would not be surprised if there have been instances of larger crowds but as it gets colder and wetter you can expect the enthusiasm to drop significantly.

That may be true in the colder regions, but the crowds will build back up in spring. So what?

[Minte]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

What an odd twist....

Have NY do with WI did, and see how the big the protest in NYC is.

That was peoples lives, at that time, getting ripped apart, and that's going to fire up a shit ton of people, just like it did in Madison. The people could actually see/feel/witness themselves getting bent over....

The OWS group is protesting what has been happening for decades and more directly 3 years ago and recent events of course. People still have no idea wtf is going on with the banks, wall street or even OWS.

If you lived in WI, you knew wtf was going on, and it hit almost everyone. They're VERY different.... so much, it's odd you even tried to relate them.

The OWS group is barely a symbol that someone in media is working hard to mobilize. I saw the demonstration with my own eyes. I read the signs and listened to the chants. It is insignificant. It's apathy at it's finest.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by epitome

How does that explain the 700 arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge? Was that a surge or have things died down?

I think the Occupy Fort Lauderdale only had a couple hundred people, too. Similar to the local tea parties. I remember when I was living in Annapolis, MD they made the tea party things seem big in local media but when I drove by it was a few people holding signs.

Too bad the movements can't find some common ground to stand on and move forward as a unified group.

There is no common ground.

The Tea Party wants low taxes, small government, capitalism, and freedom.

OWS wants high taxes and a nanny government and socialism. They decry white collar corruption, but they turn a blind eye to government corruption, especially if they are the beneficiaries of it.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

There is no common ground.

The Tea Party wants low taxes, small government, capitalism, and freedom.

OWS wants high taxes and a nanny government and socialism. They decry white collar corruption, but they turn a blind eye to government corruption, especially if they are the beneficiaries of it.

way to spin everything to be about your views only.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Minte

The OWS group is barely a symbol that someone in media is working hard to mobilize. I saw the demonstration with my own eyes. I read the signs and listened to the chants. It is insignificant. It's apathy at it's finest.

Lol, the media has damn near ignored the Occupy protests, let alone get it right, report it fair, or do anything to actually help it, hell American media calls it OWS, when it's just a single protest within 1000's. The media is owned by massive corporations, like they're going around and start helping push what they think hates them.... lol.

Did you check the protest in Washington DC over the weekend? Or any of the other 1000+ Occupy protests around the world?

OWS itself could quit all together, but that doesn't mean the Occupy protests are over.

[stocktrader23]

Minte, you are being a fucking idiot. There have never been more than a few hundred people actually camping out in NYC. Thousands show up to the marches and other organized events, not everyone can just hang out in NYC for months on end. 700 were arrested on the bridge alone, so are you going to claim 300 protesting but 700 arrested?

It's not like this shit isn't well documents. You can go watch live streams of the protests right now, view videos from everything that has gone on and read reports going back to September. If you are ignorant about what is happening it's your own lazy ass fault. :2cents

To act as if people camped out all across the USA and the world is no big deal is hilarious. They've never seen anything like this and still don't know what to do. Over 100 were arrested in Chicago alone this weekend and they came right back to camp when released.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

There is no common ground.

The Tea Party wants low taxes, small government, capitalism, and freedom.

OWS wants high taxes and a nanny government and socialism. They decry white collar corruption, but they turn a blind eye to government corruption, especially if they are the beneficiaries of it.

Offense intended, you are one dumb motherfucker.

[Rochard]

No one seems to be taking OWS too seriously.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

There is no common ground.

The Tea Party wants low taxes, small government, capitalism, and freedom.

OWS wants high taxes and a nanny government and socialism. They decry white collar corruption, but they turn a blind eye to government corruption, especially if they are the beneficiaries of it.

You are one sad brainwashed person....

OWS is one protest within a massive Occupy Movement.

The OWS protest is "focused" on Wall street... while the Washington DC movement, is focused on Government, and others on both, other things, etc.

Fox news will never tell you the facts, so I'll do it for you.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Rochard

No one seems to be taking OWS too seriously.

That's because most people are brainwashed sheep that only do and think what the television or radio tells them.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

That's because most people are brainwashed sheep that only do and think what the television or radio tells them.

I figured you'd be supportive of these protests, good to see your name here. I don't think we've ever done business but C. D. had nothing but great things to say about you.

Cheers

[Minte]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Minte, you are being a fucking idiot. There have never been more than a few hundred people actually camping out in NYC. Thousands show up to the marches and other organized events, not everyone can just hang out in NYC for months on end. 700 were arrested on the bridge alone, so are you going to claim 300 protesting but 700 arrested?

It's not like this shit isn't well documents. You can go watch live streams of the protests right now, view videos from everything that has gone on and read reports going back to September. If you are ignorant about what is happening it's your own lazy ass fault. :2cents

To act as if people camped out all across the USA and the world is no big deal is hilarious. They've never seen anything like this and still don't know what to do. Over 100 were arrested in Chicago alone this weekend and they came right back to camp when released.

Another anonymous internet toughguy with an opinion and no experience.

You watch television and read other peoples thoughts on the internet to form your opinion. I went and experienced it.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Minte

Another anonymous internet toughguy with an opinion and no experience.

You watch television and read other peoples thoughts on the internet to form your opinion. I went and experienced it.

You didn't experience shit, dumbass.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Minte

Another anonymous internet toughguy with an opinion and no experience.

You watch television and read other peoples thoughts on the internet to form your opinion. I went and experienced it.

the philadelphia one was a joke. I'll be in manhattan this week. maybe I'll swing by and see the NY protest too.
see if its the same rag tag "I want everything for free" crowd I saw in philly

[D Ghost]

These pics from yesterday and today look different:

[baddog]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

That may be true in the colder regions, but the crowds will build back up in spring. So what?

They will have forgotten all about OWS.

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Lol, the media has damn near ignored the Occupy protests, let alone get it right, report it fair, or do anything to actually help it, hell American media calls it OWS, when it's just a single protest within 1000's. The media is owned by massive corporations, like they're going around and start helping push what they think hates them.... lol.

Did you check the protest in Washington DC over the weekend? Or any of the other 1000+ Occupy protests around the world?

OWS itself could quit all together, but that doesn't mean the Occupy protests are over.

Which event did you attend? You seems to know more than the media or others that actually went to check it out. You take pics?

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

These pics from yesterday and today look different:

I can go to a small party and make it look well attended. I do it all the time. Those photos really show little.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

There is no common ground.

The Tea Party wants low taxes, small government, capitalism, and freedom.

OWS wants high taxes and a nanny government and socialism. They decry white collar corruption, but they turn a blind eye to government corruption, especially if they are the beneficiaries of it.

That's why nothing is being done either way. There IS common ground. We found it for two hundred years ... do you think everybody just started disagreeing?

[96ukssob]

people are going to go back to living their lives. the 99% don't have unlimited vacation days and need to work to provide for their family

[epitome]

Minte, serious question:

Did you go and talk to anybody or did you take pics from afar to illustrate a point you wanted to make?

If just taking pics and seeing what you want to see, how is that any different than what the media is doing?

Sounds like you went there with your mind made up.

You say the media makes it look like more people, how do we know you're not making it look like less?

You have proven yourself to be biased in the past...just like you are accusing the media of being.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Minte

I stayed at the Millenium on Times Square. The only hooligan I saw since thursday was the Naked Cowboy.

That guy never sleeps. He gets paid damn well for that gig though.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by baddog

Which event did you attend? You seems to know more than the media or others that actually went to check it out. You take pics?

What do I seem to know? That OWS is one protest inside the Occupy movement? That it's happening in 1000's of cities across the globe? Or is it that fact that you can simply check Google Images of the various protests and OWS, and clearly see it's much more than a distant corner shot that claims to be the protest?

http://www.google.com/search?q=ows+p...=1346&bih=1009

These are all things you can find online.... and it's not like attending the 20 man march here is going to show me anything about the protests happening around the world.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

What do I seem to know? That OWS is one protest inside the Occupy movement? That it's happening in 1000's of cities across the globe? Or is it that fact that you can simply check Google Images of the various protests and OWS, and clearly see it's much more than a distant corner shot that claims to be the protest?

http://www.google.com/search?q=ows+p...=1346&bih=1009

These are all things you can find online.... and it's not like attending the 20 man march here is going to show me anything about the protests happening around the world.

You said, "the media has damn near ignored the Occupy protests, let alone get it right, report it fair, or do anything to actually help it."

Obviously you know something they don't if you can say they are "not getting it right" or are not "reporting it fairly." Personally, I don't think it is their job to "help it." Not sure why you think that is the job of the media.

[epitome]

Imagine a US with a fair flat tax and where you could do whatever you want with your own body or any other consenting adult(s).

Do you think threads like this would still happen?

[GregE]

Originally Posted by baddog

You said, "the media has damn near ignored the Occupy protests, let alone get it right, report it fair, or do anything to actually help it."

Obviously you know something they don't if you can say they are "not getting it right" or are not "reporting it fairly." Personally, I don't think it is their job to "help it." Not sure why you think that is the job of the media.

Keep in mind that Fox News gave every impression of being duty bound to cheer lead the teabaggers from day one.

Then again, you were referring to the real media so I guess that doesn't apply here

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by baddog

You said, "the media has damn near ignored the Occupy protests, let alone get it right, report it fair, or do anything to actually help it."

Obviously you know something they don't if you can say they are "not getting it right" or are not "reporting it fairly." Personally, I don't think it is their job to "help it." Not sure why you think that is the job of the media.

Seriously?

Could you point out the last time fox, cnn, msnbc, ect did any actual reporting? Where the reporter actually investigates what's happening and produces an indepth report on it, without a slant?

Where is the report that covers of the real reasons behind the protest? Like breaking down the criminal activities, fraud, corruption, and influence some of these groups/people/corps, etc have over our financial systems, gov, politicians, states, etc. It's not like it's a secret, it's not like it doesn't happen... but why don't we have reports on it?

Why's it always drum circles, hippies, and college kids that are broke, unemployed, and lacking a core message thus have no message? When Google Images disproves this instantly.

Where are the reports showing the police crossing the legal line, and why do we have to wait to "see" the truth on the Internet rather than from them?

I didn't say it was the job of the media to help. I did say "or do anything to actually help it" - meaning, if they actually covered the truth, did some real reporting, you would have millions of more people protesting..... but, that's not what they do, at all.

Thus we have people like those in this thread that think it's a joke, basically because daddy media hasn't told them otherwise.

Media fair my ass, honest, hell no, trustworthy, not for a second... anyone that actually listens/takes in what the mainstream media says in this Country, instantly makes them 100% uninformed of anything actually happening. I don't care who is reporting, fox to pbs... start looking up what they say, it wont take long to realize how much bullshit they spew.

Are you okay with the media hiding the truth from you?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I didn't say it was the job of the media to help. I did say "or do anything to actually help it" - meaning, if they actually covered the truth, did some real reporting, you would have millions of more people protesting..... but, that's not what they do, at all.

Thus we have people like those in this thread that think it's a joke, basically because daddy media hasn't told them otherwise.

Wait. You just said you had not attended any of the events. How is it that you know they are not giving an accurate portrayal of what is happening there?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by baddog

Wait. You just said you had not attended any of the events. How is it that you know they are not giving an accurate portrayal of what is happening there?

No, I didn't say I haven't attended any events... I said "it's not like attending the 20 man march here is going to show me anything about the protests happening around the world." It's not like the protest here was on fox or cnn.

So we can ignore that... and watch the media reports, then go look online to see the truth.

Just like many here, the words hippies, drum circles, college kids, etc was repeated because that's what the media said.

However, once several pictures were posting that disproved that, it quickly stopped around here... but the media still spews it.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by baddog

Wait. You just said you had not attended any of the events. How is it that you know they are not giving an accurate portrayal of what is happening there?

I haven't attended the NYC event or any even close to the same size but I assure you I know more about how many people are there on a day to day basis and what the majority of them stand for than Minte or anyone else in here talking shit.

Do you bill millions of dollars per year on websites utilizing multiple class C's with SEO hosting or do you just talk about it without actually doing it yourself?

Maybe a bad example since SEO webhosting is highly disputed as being effective but you get the point. There are enough resources available to anyone with an internet connection to get a damn good idea of what is happening somewhere without ever stepping foot on the ground and that means that there is enough information available to know that Minte's assessment of the protests is bullshit bred from ignorance.

[stocktrader23]

300 people never looked so big!

[stocktrader23]

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