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some of the biggest paysites now are softcore-ish nude art sites like x-art and ftv. it`s not gangbang teens.
the surfers who like those sites - and it is a fair amount - don`t like tasteless raunchy hardcore with cocks all over the place.Comment
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So I just read Robbie's prior post about what he would do with PornHub.
He would make it the same as GayTube.com (which Fabian bought off Shap) and JustUsBoys.com, which is now owned by Intense Cash ... or RocketTube, which is still owned by the guys who founded JustUsBoys.com.
Those sites are the largest gay affiliate sites.
As far as I know, Fabian has no plans to change GayTube.com as that is a cash cow.
Fabian now owns a site that does exactly what Robbie suggested for PornHub so Fabian certainly knows the potential.
GayTube has been like that for years. Obviously both models are equally lucrative, just comes down to the path you choose to take.Comment
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Exactly, there are many and no point trying to explain this to someone who knows everything.
@ Damian - you marketing genius you - pornbeer must be making you MILLIONS with all those 100+ view videos
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re read robbie brilliant idea he wanted to stop taking user uploads completelySo I just read Robbie's prior post about what he would do with PornHub.
He would make it the same as GayTube.com (which Fabian bought off Shap) and JustUsBoys.com, which is now owned by Intense Cash ... or RocketTube, which is still owned by the guys who founded JustUsBoys.com.
http://upload.gaytube.com/submit/
still taking uploads
and even if you were right (which your not)
have you seen the difference between pornhub traffic and gaytube 's traffic
there are hundreds of straight tube sites who would carve up the traffic of pornhub if you were stupid enough to do what robbie suggested you should do
just like all the torrent sites that grew bigger when mininova decided to use the same stupid plan to go legit.
just like file lockers that grew when rapidshare decided to buckle and go legit.
it plain stupid to believe it would be any different this time.Comment
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very poor comparison. due to demographics the biggest gay porn site is going to be one tenth the size of the biggest straight site, probably less. that should be obvious.
and gay tube is currently the biggest gay porn site, despite other gay tubes that are filled with full length "user uploaded" content.
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Imagine that. They take uploads and the site isn't full of pirated content. What does that tell you?re read robbie brilliant idea he wanted to stop taking user uploads completely
http://upload.gaytube.com/submit/
still taking uploads
and even if you were right (which your not)
have you seen the difference between pornhub traffic and gaytube 's traffic
there are hundreds of straight tube sites who would carve up the traffic of pornhub if you were stupid enough to do what robbie suggested you should do
just like all the torrent sites that grew bigger when mininova decided to use the same stupid plan to go legit.
just like file lockers that grew when rapidshare decided to buckle and go legit.
it plain stupid to believe it would be any different this time.
I accept user uploads, too. 90% is affiliates uploading watermarked promo vids. The rest is mostly truly amateur stuff. That's why I never believed the hype about 40k full length videos being uploaded by users.
Yeah, I don't have PornHub traffic, but %s should still be the same on any site.Comment
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Oh and so we are not drawn into a debate, when I say 90% I am just trying to make a point.
We are averaging 200 uploads by users a day and very rarely do I see anything that isn't a promo or appears to be truly amateur.
Due to safe harbor everything goes up but I still have an idea of what is.Comment
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His "Marketing" advice is probably just copied and pasted from searches in Google. For instance. http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl...0&bih=811&bs=1Damian's site and knowledge are pretty pathetic when it comes to marketing.
One of my brothers is in the car business. And THOSE guys can sell shit. And sitting with my brother looking over the details of marketing with a car dealership is pretty educating.
This is the movie that all car dealers and salesmen love to watch. And if you ever watch it you begin to really understand the psychology of how to sell to people:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0199054/
To me it was like watching what I already knew because I've been in entertainment/showbiz since I was a child. So everything has always been "carny" and "working" people and promoting and entertaining.
I get people everyday...program owners, solo girl sites, porn girls...wanting me to take over their stuff and make them money. They can't figure out how I do what I do with CM's site.
And the answer is really easy. It's my entire life of being in show biz. A front man, a song and dance man, etc. You either have "it" and get the experience needed in life to supplement that ability...or you don't.
It's how I do what I do. While some guys are poring over stats and making painfully long decisions on what color to use for the background...I'm up and running circles around them off of what I instinctively know my audiences want.
Reading that stuff on Damian's site...it's pretty generic. And I'm sure he is helpful to some folks and gets them to a level that they think is really good.
I look at it and know that a guy like Damian would walk into a bar full of car dealers and try to tell them about marketing and be laughed out of the building.
Replace "car dealers" with any of my managers/agents of my bands over the years and the same thing would happen.
It's why most things in this world fail. If everyone was good...there would be no "winners". So thanks to the Damians and Gideons of the world, I get to look really good while I'm making all this money. lol
It's one thing to to read the words or sit down in a classroom and study a subject. As a front line salesman in many fields. Some of that advice is absolute bottom level basic and some wrong. The first thing to do it identify If the prospective client has a problem you can solve. No point in trying to sell someone who needs a car a bus ticket. Unless you're a conman.
A good opening question is vital in selling and should get a client talking about his business. After you researched his business. In selling media space it's easy. Look at his advertising. Spot something they also do and don't feature as a headline in their present advertising and get them to talk about that part of their business.
The most important part of selling is to identify, understand and know your client, his needs and your product. If they don't match, then fix your product or find new clients.
He's a failure and now telling me he can shoot, market and sell porn better than me. That's why he lives in a hovel. Ho chose to do a job he's bad at to earn less money.
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Yes, it's sad that's the only way I have to make money and I do not do consultancy for Playboy, EasyDate, Hustler, etc as a day job and pornbeer wasn't just an excuse to have a beer with my friend.
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Tried to contact you via your hotmail (in your profile ) but it bounced
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Softcore can sell. Normally, it has to still deliver the same erotic stimulation that hardcore does, without laying all the meat on the table. This is the tough part. It might be upskirt with a glimpse of stocking top. As a 15-18 year old I would travel to work on the Tube in London. sitting opposite a girl in a short skirt and seeing stacking top was the ultimate for me.
Met-Art is softcore and they hit it very well. Missing it with low grade content isn't even going to start getting sales, unless you can find 100s of affiliates to waste time sending tons of traffic to a poorly performing site.
Does anyone really know what this guy does? He says he represents 3waycash and another couple of sites. 3waycash didn't split test their tours a lot.@ Damian - you marketing genius you - pornbeer must be making you MILLIONS with all those 100+ view videos
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Prove it. I emailed them all so we will know soon enough.Comment
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Course he can't. So he's trying to distract attention by lying and saying I am not working for Playboy currently. Although I am currently working on a project for them.Comment
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So this is yet another of paul's lies? But surely, if he lies about so many things, and gets caught red-handed so many fucking times, no-one can take *anything* he says as truth. You'd have to be some kind of coked up dribbler to believe anything paul says, no?Comment
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We shall soon see. Who ever you work for, it can't be for much. Well not by the look of your living room.

Saddest thing about you is, you never realised it until I pointed it out. Then you started to find new locations.
Still everyone will judge what you meant when starting this thread. Seems you got the ball back in your face, AGAIN!!Comment
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Paul. Please post a quote where I said anything like what you accuse me of saying? You can't, because I didn't. As has been pointed out. You funny little liar.
So I kinda think the ball is in your face. Whatever that fucking means.
Anyway, I wouldn't start discussions about sitting rooms if I were you LOL!
Does that look like you made millions? Or does it look like you are a lying pikey who likes cheap tat?
34 years at the top buys you that?
Fuck me.
LOL!
And I found new locations because I MOVED! As you know. But you keep on lying if you like. Seriously, do you know the story about the boy who cried wolf? I hope nothing else ever bad happens in your life, as no one will believe you
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Sorry, Paul. The textures of the clothing/bedding, the pearlescent lip-liner, the mid-length dusty rose nails... It all screams 90s and it would need to be in a vintage niche at this point to convert.Bright Desire - Smart, sensual porn.
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Well easy enough to tone down the m/u.
Still glamor is meant to be glamorous.Comment
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Here's proof you're a loser who likes taunting people.
So a broke, loser who can't earn enough to furnish a living room nicely.
The shelves you keep posting with the LOL is a fail.
They are filled with mementos of a happy life. Little things that I and also with Eva have collected over the years. That what you do in a home. Fill it with little things that mean more than money.

Compared to your living room filled with meaningless rubbish.

Sad little man.Comment
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Not really, it's proof you are really going to regret saying that teachers must have an iron will to resist 15 year old girls.
Nicely is an interesting word. Your house looks like it is filled with stuff that was the booby prize on a fairground stall.
Love this banana:

And what self-respecting porn millionaire with 34 years at the top of his game doesn't proudly display one of these in his living room?

Not to anyone but you. I'm sure you actually think those shelves look nice. Anyone else sees them and laughs. I assure you.
No they are filled with tat from that looks like you got it from a pound shop.
Well that picture certainly shows nothing there cost much money, so I guess you're right there.
Well, it's audio equipment, mics, keyboards, stuff like that. But yes, almost certainly meaningless to you.
I didn't spend the weekend arguing with idiots on teh internet instead of playing with my puppy, young daughter or gorgeous young wife. You did. You do the math, girlfriend.Comment
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it named gaytube.com moron, it going to get an ungodly amount of type ins without doing a single bit of marketing.very poor comparison. due to demographics the biggest gay porn site is going to be one tenth the size of the biggest straight site, probably less. that should be obvious.
and gay tube is currently the biggest gay porn site, despite other gay tubes that are filled with full length "user uploaded" content.
working with sponsors did not hurt it's traffic or market share in the least.
every gay person in the world would know that as the defacto place go.
you might want to look at the views for pornhub gay section before you spout off about successful gaytube is.
http://www.pornhub.com/video?o=mv&t=a&c=63
compare the views from a gay subcatagory of pornhub against the main root views for gaytube.
btw if you guys actually believed robbies idea would work why not buy pornhub and make the change, even if you paid out net present value at 20x income you would make a killing based on how "Successful" robbie claims he would be.
if any of you guys did that you would lose all your investment because the users will just go to another site.Comment
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what part of "the biggest gay site will only have a fraction of the biggest straight site due to demographics" don't you understand you fucking idiot? you can't compare gaytube and pornhub. fuck are you lacking in any sense of reality.
also gaytube is the biggest gay site there is, literally. why would they change their model? it obviously is a success that other gay site owners can only dream of. even sites that load their tubes will full length gay porn can't touch it.
why aren't users leaving gaytube in droves them for full length pirate tubes? your theory sucks balls.
it named gaytube.com moron, it going to get an ungodly amount of type ins without doing a single bit of marketing.
every gay person in the world would know that as the defacto place go.
you might want to look at the views for pornhub gay section before you spout off about successful gaytube is.
http://www.pornhub.com/video?o=mv&t=a&c=63
compare the views from a gay subcatagory of pornhub against the main root views for gaytube.
btw if you guys actually believed robbies idea would work why not buy pornhub and make the change, even if you paid out net present value at 20x income you would make a killing based on how "Successful" robbie claims he would be.
if any of you guys did that you would lose all your investment because the users will just go to another site.Comment
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so the biggest gay site is smaller then the gay section of the porn tubewhat part of "the biggest gay site will only have a fraction of the biggest straight site due to demographics" don't you understand you fucking idiot? you can't compare gaytube and pornhub. fuck are you lacking in any sense of reality.
also gaytube is the biggest gay site there is, literally. why would they change their model? it obviously is a success that other gay site owners can only dream of. even sites that load their tubes will full length gay porn can't touch it.
why aren't users leaving gaytube in droves them for full length pirate tubes? your theory sucks balls.
do you understand how stupid your arguement about demographics is when you take that fact into account
http://www.gaytube.com/categories&c=&lo=basic&s=mv&t=a (1,479,996)
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http://www.pornhub.com/video?o=mv&t=a&c=63 (2,135,063 )
porn hub gay section has more views then a DEDICATED GAY TUBE SITE who type in name is the defacto name for gay tube site
the biggest gay site is smaller then the gay subsection of a generic porn site even when it views are artifically inflated because it got the world's best domain name for a gay tube site.Comment
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When Eva and I met, she was an au pair, looking after some young children. Who would watch the "Bananas in Pyjamas" DVD over and over again. And they called each other "Silly Banana. Which we still call our daughter and dog. When they're silly. So when we saw the glass banana in a shop in Prague, no hesitation to buy it
A present from or daughter to us.And what self-respecting porn millionaire with 34 years at the top of his game doesn't proudly display one of these in his living room?
If yu had a family and not a lonely sad man, you would understand the monetary value of a memento is nothing compared to the sentimental value. The metal shelving in your living room, shows what a sad man you are. not seeing that keep sakes are about memories. Makes me feel sad for you.
Arguing with an idiot like you is a hobby. I don't have to work.I didn't spend the weekend arguing with idiots on teh internet instead of playing with my puppy, young daughter or gorgeous young wife. You did. You do the math, girlfriend.
Look at when I post to see how much time I spend online. You have to spend a lot longer than me tied to a keyboard. you have to make the rent.
No answers you from Playboy, Hustler and Easydate. Maybe you were lying and they don't know you.Last edited by Paul Markham; 10-25-2011, 05:28 AM.Comment
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It's funny you pretend you know people there!
Equally, no answer from the Brno education authority when I emailed them asking if they knew you said that teachers have to have a will of iron to resist fucking the children in their class!

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Glamour is meant to be glamourous, yes, but there's a way to style it to look timeless and another way to make it look extremely dated. It's not about the amount of makeup, it's just about the kinds and the application. I know I'm a woman and I'm not necessarily the target market, but most guys will feel the same way, they just might not be able to put their finger on why.Bright Desire - Smart, sensual porn.
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Most people in this thread are fucking morons. Page two is two monkeys arguing over who flings the biggest pile of shit when everyone else is laughing at both of your poo flinging asses.
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ok gideon explain to my why gaytube is growing, not losing visitors and other gay tubes which have full ripped movies cannot match their size? why are people not leaving gaytube in drives for those sites?
your theory sucks because it is not universally applicable.
so the biggest gay site is smaller then the gay section of the porn tube
do you understand how stupid your arguement about demographics is when you take that fact into account
http://www.gaytube.com/categories&c=&lo=basic&s=mv&t=a (1,479,996)
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http://www.pornhub.com/video?o=mv&t=a&c=63 (2,135,063 )
porn hub gay section has more views then a DEDICATED GAY TUBE SITE who type in name is the defacto name for gay tube site
the biggest gay site is smaller then the gay subsection of a generic porn site even when it views are artifically inflated because it got the world's best domain name for a gay tube site.Comment
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QUOTE=Paul Markham;18512115]Here's proof you're a loser who likes taunting people.
So a broke, loser who can't earn enough to furnish a living room nicely.
The shelves you keep posting with the LOL is a fail.
They are filled with mementos of a happy life. Little things that I and also with Eva have collected over the years. That what you do in a home. Fill it with little things that mean more than money.

Compared to your living room filled with meaningless rubbish.

Sad little man.[/QUOTE]
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Sry Paul I had to share
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No worries, it was a T Shirt Eva got for doing a 4 km walk. I have since done one.
Still no reply from any of the people Damian says he does consulting work for. Either crap support or they are trying to figure out who Damian is. I see they all do split testing on their sites.
jimmy and stock. Just poking fun at a loser.
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Arguing with him is hopeless unless you're just doing it for sport. If he were even 5% as smart as he thinks he is he would be able to figure out a way to earn enough money to buy the content he has to steal.Comment
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What's up with the effeminate text from DamianJ these days?
Calling other men "Love" and other "twinkish" type verbalisms in all of his posts lately?
Maybe it's time for Damian to go to the doctor and start getting testosterone injections?-Robbie
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idiot the gay section of pornhub is bigger then the entire gaytube site
so that exactly what is happening
why is it not death spiral maybe because gay tube has the defacto name for a gay tube site
so the rising tide effecting all tube sites give them a massive influx of traffic to offset the normal migration.
funny you picked a site that is the defacto name for that niche, a site that would naturally get an overwhelming majority of new fresh users as tube sites become popularyour theory sucks because it is not universally applicable.
as proof that my theory will not work
and you ignore the fact that such a tube site could still keep growing even if losing people as they become more educated.
For high type in traffic tube sites, maybe you would make more money from teasing and not pleasing the newbies, they don't know any better and may buy(until they learn and leave). But that shit won't fly for a tube site that built it traffic on the back of user submitted content.
let me ask you a question if you guys are right, and you would turn pornhub into moneymaker 10-100 times better by doing the going legit model as robbie said
why not buy it and do the change.Comment
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pornhub is number one for every major porn keyword. their traffic would be massive even if it was a one page sales lander. with their search traffic even "mexican two headed gay midget" videos are going to get tons of views just from people clicking around the site.
again your theories are continually wrong, distorted, have no basis in reality and generally stupid and not even free culture / pirate theorist types even make them.
making the font size bigger isn't going to magically make your theories correct or have any basis in reality moron.
idiot the gay section of pornhub is bigger then the entire gaytube site
so that exactly what is happening
why is it not death spiral maybe because gay tube has the defacto name for a gay tube site
so the rising tide effecting all tube sites give them a massive influx of traffic to offset the normal migration.
funny you picked a site that is the defacto name for that niche, a site that would naturally get an overwhelming majority of new fresh users as tube sites become popular
as proof that my theory will not work
and you ignore the fact that such a tube site could still keep growing even if losing people as they become more educated.
For high type in traffic tube sites, maybe you would make more money from teasing and not pleasing the newbies, they don't know any better and may buy(until they learn and leave). But that shit won't fly for a tube site that built it traffic on the back of user submitted content.
let me ask you a question if you guys are right, and you would turn pornhub into moneymaker 10-100 times better by doing the going legit model as robbie said
why not buy it and do the change.Comment
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I've tried to tell Damian this for years, but he never listens... He thinks everyones behind him & it's him that's mocking

When will he turn his pc off
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