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  • 12clicks
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 19816
    #1

    but but but, obama said the Bush tax cuts where for the evil rich!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...s-500-billion/

    "Taxmageddon falls 70 percent on middle and low income families. That's because 60 percent of the Bush tax cuts were for middle- and low-income taxpayers,"

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1sONI5D98
    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
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    • Verbal
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      • Dec 2001
      • 3420
      #2
      FoxNews.com ... Fuck YEAH!!

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        • The Ghost
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          • Oct 2004
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          #3
          "Taxmageddon"


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            • 12clicks
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jan 2001
              • 19816
              #4
              Originally posted by Verbal
              FoxNews.com ... Fuck YEAH!!
              intelligent rebuttal....Fuck YEAH!!

              http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/su...pagewanted=all

              http://articles.businessinsider.com/...arger-deficits

              http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...g-taxmageddon/
              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                • raymor
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 3745
                  #5
                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                  intelligent rebuttal....Fuck YEAH!!

                  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/su...pagewanted=all


                  http://articles.businessinsider.com/...arger-deficits

                  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...g-taxmageddon/


                  Better. Unless you're preaching to their respective choirs, Fox and CNN aren't the best places to cite. They are good for learning about something, then cite other sources (preferably primary sources.)
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                    • 12clicks
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                      • Jan 2001
                      • 19816
                      #6
                      Originally posted by raymor
                      Better. Unless you're preaching to their respective choirs, Fox and CNN aren't the best places to cite. They are good for learning about something, then cite other sources (preferably primary sources.)
                      sorry, you're simply incorrect.
                      both places report news. either one is a source. Intelligent people know where the news ends and the opinion begins.
                      If you're asking me to show you where the line is in the future, I can.
                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                        • seeandsee
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                          I was thinking Obama will change america, i see now president is nothing, a clown, he cant do shit
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                            • PR_Glen
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                              • Oct 2006
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                              sorry, you're simply incorrect.
                              both places report news. either one is a source. Intelligent people know where the news ends and the opinion begins.
                              If you're asking me to show you where the line is in the future, I can.
                              i've always felt that way. most people react so emotionally to the opinions of one writer they forget the news part all together.
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                                • raymor
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                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 3745
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                  Intelligent people know where the news ends and the opinion begins.
                                  So you're only trying to convince INTELLIGENT people? ;) Rightly or wrongly, people THINK that Fox tends to put a conservative slant on the news and CNN a liberal slant. Verbal's post proves that some people, namely him, don't trust Fox News. Anther or not he SHOULD trust Fox is beside the point; the fact is many people don't.

                                  If you want to educate / convince people, use the whole sentence from a Fox article "according to a new report from the Congressional Budget Office, the Bush era tax cuts...". That way you're citing the CBO, not Fox. Whether or not they are right to do so, people do in fact trust primary sources more than they trust Fox. Fox is a great place to find information, just read what their source is. A lot of times the source Obama himself. They can dismiss Fox as being against Obama, but when he implicates himself in his own words they are nearly forced to see the truth.
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                                    • sperbonzo
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                                      • May 2003
                                      • 9750
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                      sorry, you're simply incorrect.
                                      both places report news. either one is a source. Intelligent people know where the news ends and the opinion begins.
                                      If you're asking me to show you where the line is in the future, I can.
                                      I agree, although the primary way in which all news sources slant their coverage is in the selection of stories that they choose to cover, or not cover.



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                                        • slapass
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 14625
                                          #11
                                          It will hit the rich more then the middle class but it touches most of us.

                                          How many folks making 6k a year have significant capital gains? Alternative minimum tax does not hit people under 100k or something last time I checked. Gift tax? Inheritance? I get your point in that raising the tax rate across the board is tough but it is the bigger issues will create the real revenue.

                                          The US needs to pay down the debt. Neither side seems to care about this but it is the truth. Doing nothing allows this to happen so they will do nothing. Pretty easy to see why it is happening.

                                          You are personally outraged why?

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                                            • 12clicks
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 19816
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by raymor
                                              So you're only trying to convince INTELLIGENT people? ;) Rightly or wrongly, people THINK that Fox tends to put a conservative slant on the news and CNN a liberal slant. Verbal's post proves that some people, namely him, don't trust Fox News. Anther or not he SHOULD trust Fox is beside the point; the fact is many people don't.

                                              If you want to educate / convince people, use the whole sentence from a Fox article "according to a new report from the Congressional Budget Office, the Bush era tax cuts...". That way you're citing the CBO, not Fox. Whether or not they are right to do so, people do in fact trust primary sources more than they trust Fox. Fox is a great place to find information, just read what their source is. A lot of times the source Obama himself. They can dismiss Fox as being against Obama, but when he implicates himself in his own words they are nearly forced to see the truth.
                                              you miss the point of my posts. besides using them to kill time on a slow day, I use it to identify unintelligent posters. Its like a little trap. Throw up a story from fox that I know is out there everywhere and see who takes the bait.
                                              These posts are never about convincing the other side. its more about laughing at them.
                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                • 12clicks
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 19816
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by slapass
                                                  It will hit the rich more then the middle class but it touches most of us.

                                                  How many folks making 6k a year have significant capital gains? Alternative minimum tax does not hit people under 100k or something last time I checked. Gift tax? Inheritance? I get your point in that raising the tax rate across the board is tough but it is the bigger issues will create the real revenue.

                                                  The US needs to pay down the debt. Neither side seems to care about this but it is the truth. Doing nothing allows this to happen so they will do nothing. Pretty easy to see why it is happening.

                                                  You are personally outraged why?
                                                  outraged?
                                                  No, I'm laughing at all of the outrage of the left over Bush's tax cuts for the rich.

                                                  We spend $1trillion a year more than we have. Taxes on the rich won't change that. In fact, NO tax increase will change that.
                                                  The spending must stop. our deficit has very little to do with tax cuts.
                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                    • 12clicks
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 19816
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by slapass
                                                      I get your point in that raising the tax rate across the board is tough but it is the bigger issues will create the real revenue.
                                                      like the Buffet rule?
                                                      that joke will bring in $4.7billion a year according to Congress?s Joint Committee on Taxation.
                                                      what's $1 trillion - 4.7 billion?

                                                      pretty inconsequential.
                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                        • directfiesta
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 30251
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                          like the Buffet rule?
                                                          that joke will bring in $4.7billion a year according to Congress?s Joint Committee on Taxation.
                                                          what's $1 trillion - 4.7 billion?

                                                          pretty inconsequential.
                                                          true ... but how can you explain that cutting funding for Planned parenthood then would be essential to deficit reduction .. after all, it is only 360 million a year

                                                          Whats 4.7 billion - 360 million ?
                                                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                            • 12clicks
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 19816
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                              true ... but how can you explain that cutting funding for Planned parenthood then would be essential to deficit reduction .. after all, it is only 360 million a year

                                                              Whats 4.7 billion - 360 million ?
                                                              I'll await any of your links where planned parenthood funds have been cut in an effort to reduce the deficit.
                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                • directfiesta
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 30251
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                  I'll await any of your links where planned parenthood funds have been cut in an effort to reduce the deficit.
                                                                  Read .... I did not say that .
                                                                  But it is discussed on the floor and put forward by the GOP as much as the end of the Bush tax cuts . Neither is done .

                                                                  Try to think once in a while , otherwise go ask your mommy to explain .
                                                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 19816
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                      Read .... I did not say that .
                                                                      But it is discussed on the floor and put forward by the GOP as much as the end of the Bush tax cuts . Neither is done .

                                                                      Try to think once in a while , otherwise go ask your mommy to explain .
                                                                      As usual, someone will have to take your word on it as, with all pretend facts, they come with no links.
                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                        • 2MuchMark
                                                                          Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 51248
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by seeandsee
                                                                          I was thinking Obama will change america, i see now president is nothing, a clown, he cant do shit
                                                                          You can thank John Boenher and the rest of those assholes for always getting in his way.

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                                                                            • 12clicks
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                              • 19816
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                                              You can thank John Boenher and the rest of those assholes for always getting in his way.
                                                                              More brilliant commentary from the uninformed
                                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                • directfiesta
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 30251
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                  As usual, someone will have to take your word on it as, with all pretend facts, they come with no links.
                                                                                  As usual ... lol ... ... I always post links but stopped as they are not relevant to guys like you ....

                                                                                  So , exception, here is from John Stewart yesterday show . Look at the video, you will see the Senator Thune explaining that to you .... since you brought in the Buffet rule ...

                                                                                  Jon Stewart on Republicans Bad Math in Buffet Rule Filibuster



                                                                                  You remembered to file your taxes, right? They were due yesterday. Good. On last night’s episode of “The Daily Show,” Jon Stewart discussed the Buffet Rule that senate Democrats have decided to bring to a vote. The rule ensures that people earning over $1 million annually will pay an effective tax rate of at least 30% including investment income.

                                                                                  Republicans were able to filibuster the Buffet rule and block it from coming to the floor for a debate and vote, claiming that the tax hike would “raise a mere pittance in the scope of federal budgets.”

                                                                                  But $300 million to Planned Parenthood is still too much money while $47 billion from America’s wealthiest is inconsequential apparently. Here’s the video from “The Daily Show.”

                                                                                  Quick side note, how awesome would a Zombie Reagan be? I can’t even imagine. Anyway…

                                                                                  “Senator Thune is pointing out that the Buffet Rule would only raise $47 billion over the next 10 years,” said Stewart. “The point is $4.7 billion per year isn’t worth the trouble.”

                                                                                  But $363 million to Planned Parenthood is suddenly a gigantic funding issue.

                                                                                  “So $47 billion in millionaire’s money is less than $300 million in mammograms and birth control,” said Stewart.

                                                                                  Senator John Thune said, “The broader debate about funding for Planned Parenthood is not just ideological, it is a funding issue.”

                                                                                  No one in the position to bring about change is going to be willing to agree or negotiate. Both sides are stubborn. It seems that we’re going nowhere soon.

                                                                                  Unless, of course the re-animate Reagan project gets funded and up and running.

                                                                                  Only then will the red, white and blue climb back up the pole and wave freely in the breeze of God’s breath.

                                                                                  He’s looking down on us after all, smiling.

                                                                                  Well, he’s smiling at some of us. He’s got his back turned to the rest.
                                                                                  for the video: http://bostinno.com/2012/04/18/jon-s...ibuster-video/
                                                                                  what a loss of time ...
                                                                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                    • Just Alex
                                                                                      Liv Benson to You, Bitch
                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                      • 6060
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Get ready for "my secretary makes more..." line 1..2..3..

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                                                                                        • nico-t
                                                                                          emperor of my world
                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                          • 29901
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          lets choose the republican side or the democratic side and argue who does it better, when in fact shit is all the same!

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                                                                                            • BFT3K
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Dec 2005
                                                                                              • 10764
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              The Bush tax cuts MARGINALLY help reduce taxes on the middle and lower class, but it's when you start making more than $1 million per year, that's where the giant disconnect begins to show its real colors.

                                                                                              Personally I think they should just end across the board....

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                                                                                                • scuba steve
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2008
                                                                                                  • 1888
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  i saw this a couple weeks ago, pretty interesting. i normally don't pay attention to this guy, but he breaks it down pretty cool

                                                                                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jboTeS9Okak

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                                                                                                    • Tom_PM
                                                                                                      Porn Meister
                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                      • 16443
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Obama never said that, obviously.
                                                                                                      43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                                                        • 12clicks
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                          • 19816
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Man, you can tell when the dead beats roll out of bed.
                                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                            • 12clicks
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                              • 19816
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                              As usual ... lol ... ... I always post links but stopped as they are not relevant to guys like you ....

                                                                                                              So , exception, here is from John Stewart yesterday show . Look at the video, you will see the Senator Thune explaining that to you .... since you brought in the Buffet rule ...



                                                                                                              for the video: http://bostinno.com/2012/04/18/jon-s...ibuster-video/
                                                                                                              what a loss of time ...
                                                                                                              Jon Stewart.
                                                                                                              Christ, no wonder you're clueless.
                                                                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                  • 19816
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                  The Bush tax cuts MARGINALLY help reduce taxes on the middle and lower class, but it's when you start making more than $1 million per year, that's where the giant disconnect begins to show its real colors.

                                                                                                                  Personally I think they should just end across the board....

                                                                                                                  The unintelligent bottom loves running this graph out.
                                                                                                                  Now run out the comparable graph showing who PAYS the most.
                                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                    • Tom_PM
                                                                                                                      Porn Meister
                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                      • 16443
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                      The Bush tax cuts MARGINALLY help reduce taxes on the middle and lower class, but it's when you start making more than $1 million per year, that's where the giant disconnect begins to show its real colors.

                                                                                                                      Personally I think they should just end across the board....

                                                                                                                      Which, also obviously, is why Obama always says tax cuts for those making over 1 million dollars a year should go back to the levels they were at before the bush tax cuts.

                                                                                                                      Luckily all of those big tax breaks has created so many jobs that unemployment is virtually.. non.. exist.. ant.. hmm..
                                                                                                                      43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                                                                        • directfiesta
                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                          • 30251
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                          Jon Stewart.
                                                                                                                          Christ, no wonder you're clueless.
                                                                                                                          FoxNews, no wonder ...

                                                                                                                          BTW, the clip shows the senator advocating to cut , not John Stewart ...

                                                                                                                          See why it makes no sense to post links for people like you
                                                                                                                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                            • Tom_PM
                                                                                                                              Porn Meister
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                              • 16443
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Some people think "paying the most" means paying more volume of dollars.

                                                                                                                              Luckily the intelligent person knows that it's a percentage.

                                                                                                                              A person with 1 million dollars pays 10%
                                                                                                                              A person with 100 dollars pays 10%


                                                                                                                              Who just paid "more"?
                                                                                                                              43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                                                                                • BFT3K
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 10764
                                                                                                                                  #33

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                                                                                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 19816
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                                                      FoxNews, no wonder ...

                                                                                                                                      BTW, the clip shows the senator advocating to cut , not John Stewart ...

                                                                                                                                      See why it makes no sense to post links for people like you
                                                                                                                                      You should never post links to a comedian to intelligent people.
                                                                                                                                      We don't find them credible.
                                                                                                                                      In your little argument.
                                                                                                                                      Because after years of railing against Bush's tax cuts, you don't have shit to say when your nose is rubbed in the truth.
                                                                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                        • directfiesta
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 30251
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                          You should never post links to a comedian to intelligent people.
                                                                                                                                          We don't find them credible.
                                                                                                                                          In your little argument.
                                                                                                                                          Because after years of railing against Bush's tax cuts, you don't have shit to say when your nose is rubbed in the truth.
                                                                                                                                          Shit you are dumb ...

                                                                                                                                          Go install a membrane and shingles .... and believe you are rich ...
                                                                                                                                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                            • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 19816
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                                                                                              Some people think "paying the most" means paying more volume of dollars.

                                                                                                                                              Luckily the intelligent person knows that it's a percentage.

                                                                                                                                              A person with 1 million dollars pays 10%
                                                                                                                                              A person with 100 dollars pays 10%


                                                                                                                                              Who just paid "more"?
                                                                                                                                              Someone just bought your car from you.
                                                                                                                                              person with 1 million dollars pays you 10%
                                                                                                                                              A person with 100 dollars pays you 10%
                                                                                                                                              An intelligent person will know who paid you more.
                                                                                                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 19816
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                  Shit you are dumb ...

                                                                                                                                                  Go install a membrane and shingles .... and believe you are rich ...
                                                                                                                                                  Ah yes, the bitter retort of the Internet loser.
                                                                                                                                                  Take a look around your apartment. I wouldn't let my DOG live there.
                                                                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Just Alex
                                                                                                                                                      Liv Benson to You, Bitch
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                      • 6060
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                      Someone just bought your car from you.
                                                                                                                                                      person with 1 million dollars pays you 10%
                                                                                                                                                      A person with 100 dollars pays you 10%
                                                                                                                                                      An intelligent person will know who paid you more.
                                                                                                                                                      If they were to buy the same car they both paid the same - 10% of car's price.

                                                                                                                                                      What was that about intelligent people?

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                                                                                                                                                        • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 19816
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                          Where is the second book on the guy who divided the country and pushed the deficit to 15 trillion?
                                                                                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Tom_PM
                                                                                                                                                              Porn Meister
                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              One person has 100 dollars and gives you 50 dollars
                                                                                                                                                              Another person has 1 million dollars and gives you 50 dollars

                                                                                                                                                              Which person is in more financial crisis by the giving of 50 dollars? (who gave "more"?)
                                                                                                                                                              43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                                                                                                                • MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Fox"news" makes Goebbels look like a newb
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                                                                                                                                                                    • BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                                                                      • 10764
                                                                                                                                                                      #42

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Sly
                                                                                                                                                                          Let's do some business!
                                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 31380
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                                                                                                                          One person has 100 dollars and gives you 50 dollars
                                                                                                                                                                          Another person has 1 million dollars and gives you 50 dollars

                                                                                                                                                                          Which person is in more financial crisis by the giving of 50 dollars? (who gave "more"?)
                                                                                                                                                                          The second $50 will buy you the same goods that the first $50 does. You have an odd perception of what value is.

                                                                                                                                                                          Call me a fucking moron.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Tom_PM
                                                                                                                                                                              Porn Meister
                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                              • 16443
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I would never call you or 12clicks or anyone else a moron.

                                                                                                                                                                              The $50 is not the important number which is what I'm trying to illustrate here. The word "more" is in reference to what value it HAD to the giver, not the receiver. Who gave "more" is the person who could least afford to give it.
                                                                                                                                                                              43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Tom_PM
                                                                                                                                                                                  Porn Meister
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 16443
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  In the tax debate, the word "more" refers to the volume of dollars as if that means they should pay less of a percentage. It's silly and juvenile. Paying less of a percentage yet calling it "more" is just as much a twist as what I did.
                                                                                                                                                                                  43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sly
                                                                                                                                                                                      Let's do some business!
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 31380
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      I disagree.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I have $10 million. You have $1 million.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I pay 10%. You pay 20%.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I pay $1 million. You pay $200,000.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I have never learned of any math in existence where $200,000 is "more" than $1 million. The pool of money that paid money came from has no bearing on whether or not $1 million is more than $200,000.

                                                                                                                                                                                      $1 million is more than $200,000, fact.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Verbal
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 3420
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • raymor
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 3745
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                                                              true ... but how can you explain that cutting funding for Planned parenthood then would be essential to deficit reduction .. after all, it is only 360 million a year

                                                                                                                                                                                              Whats 4.7 billion - 360 million ?
                                                                                                                                                                                              Takin $100 million of your money and giving it to Fred Phelps (Westboro) wouldn't affect the deficit either, yet I'm pretty sure you're see it as unconscionable.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Forcing 50% of the country to pay for murdering babies (as they see it) has nothing to do with the deficit. It has to do with they don't want to participate in the slaughter of innocents, financially or otherwise. Much like you might feel if you were forced to pay for NAMBLA, the KKK, etc. You can argue that the KKK, Westboro, or Planned Parenthood has the right to exist and to do what they please with THEIR money, but that's different from forcing all of us to pay their bills for them.

                                                                                                                                                                                              The only relationship to the deficit is that once we realize we're spending about $180,000 billion too much each year and we need to cut a lot out, we may as well start by stopping unconscionable spending - anything we're giving to hate groups, terrorists organizations, groups who do something similar to murder, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                              (Not that partial birth abortion is necesarily murder per se, but it's certainly similar enough to murder that people shouldn't be forced to participate in it, financially or otherwise.)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 39864
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  fact is: that multi millionaires use their tax cuts to create jobs is a myth.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  not that they dont create jobs at all, they just dont create more cause they just saved 1 or 2 million USD in taxes. Cause a reasonable company owner only creates jobs that he needs, not just for fun cause he has an extra million to spend
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 42635
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      12clicks

                                                                                                                                                                                                      "Pearls before swine".

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