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  • Minte
    Babemeister
    • Jun 2001
    • 7081

    #76
    Originally posted by FlexxAeon
    there's no "lefts philosophy" to be bought into. everything that comes from the obama camp is opposed regardless of what it is. even if it's middle of the road. no consideration or compromise. temper tantrum.
    Of course there is. Every social and fiscal policy that this administration has proposed comes from the left and/or the far left.

    Obama set the table with his healthcare reform. Stuffing that garbage bill down the throats of the country and basically telling the republicans TOO BAD,we got the power. The supreme court will have to waste their time determining if it's even constitutional. A wide majority of the country is against it.

    That was his defining moment. He pissed in the rights wheaties and they haven't forgotten.
    Nor will they. And we will see in 12 months if the country has.
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    • crockett
      in a van by the river
      • May 2003
      • 76818

      #77
      Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
      Everything Obama promised us was a lie.

      So, even a principled moron looks pretty good right about now.
      Don't be a moron yourself.. One of the biggest complaints the right wing had of Obama prior to his election was they thought he would be soft on the war on terror.

      The fact is he has done a pretty damn outstanding job in regard to the so called war on terror. He's pulled the bulk of our troops out of Iraq and refocused on Afghanistan and went after the tangos into Pakistan. Just like he promised in his campaign.

      The right wing wont say shit about that even though it was their "biggest" worry prior to his election. Obama took out bin laden and continues to get high priority tango kills. Going into Pakistan like Obama did is something Bush would have never done in a million years.

      Bush was more worried about giving Pakistan a bunch of tax payers money so they could buy arms from American companies and "pretend" to be out allies, while fucking us in the back side.

      Obama did what needed to be done , end of argument and the very fact the right wing ignores anything to do with the wars shows they know he has done good on his promise and would be foolish to claim otherwise.

      Now his healthcare plan didn't go so well and IMO he caved far sooner than he should have.. So I give him a bad grade on that.

      On the economy..sure he hasn't done as well as I would have liked and maybe he's done a bad job there. Yet what have the Republicans done to help him or this country? They have done nothing but fight anything Obama has wanted to do, so if you blame Obama for not preforming well on the economy then you must also blame the house & senate whom are controlled by Republicans.

      Not to mention Republicans have filibustered Obama more times in 2 years than what has ever been done in the history of this country. So you want to blame Obama for a Republican Congress & Senate that will not work with a Democrat regardless of what it is. Get real, I'd say Republicans are to blame on the economy at this point as the president can only get things done if the house and senate work with him for the good of the country not whats good for the next election.

      On the Banking issue I wasn't happy with it but not like Republicans would of done any different. Let's not forget George Bush Jr also gave the banks a bail out.
      Last edited by crockett; 10-19-2011, 11:43 AM.
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      • TheDoc
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2001
        • 13827

        #78
        Originally posted by Minte
        Of course there is. Every social and fiscal policy that this administration has proposed comes from the left and/or the far left.

        Obama set the table with his healthcare reform. Stuffing that garbage bill down the throats of the country and basically telling the republicans TOO BAD,we got the power. The supreme court will have to waste their time determining if it's even constitutional. A wide majority of the country is against it.

        That was his defining moment. He pissed in the rights wheaties and they haven't forgotten.
        Nor will they. And we will see in 12 months if the country has.
        Obama is a corporatist, he's very far from left, his policies and those of say Canada - are very different. Obamacare is a clear sign of his corporate ties. At that, it is the Republican healthcare plan, again... very far from left.

        55 to 45 on appeal is not a wide majority. Before all the incorrect mass media hype about it, it had overwhelming support.
        Last edited by TheDoc; 10-19-2011, 11:43 AM.
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        • uno
          RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
          • Dec 2002
          • 18450

          #79
          Originally posted by FlexxAeon
          there's no "lefts philosophy" to be bought into. everything that comes from the obama camp is opposed regardless of what it is. even if it's middle of the road. no consideration or compromise. temper tantrum.
          What's funny is a lot of things being proposed were republican ideas. There have been a bunch of videos of RR speaking compared side by side with Obama almost saying the same things verbatim.
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          • uno
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            • Dec 2002
            • 18450

            #80
            Originally posted by JP-pornshooter
            I like Cain, his 999 plan is not bad at all, problem nobody is really savvy enough to understand this concept.
            Cain has a lot of strong business experience behind him.
            Romney also is doing well, he could be a strong candidate.
            I have a lot of respect for Mormons, they have a work ethic out of this world.
            Perry is too liberal to get past the GOP.

            either case the election could look like this:
            black vs mormom
            black vs black

            and i still think Obama has a decent chance for a second term.
            everyone hve to be reminded he took over at the worst of times, Bush was so beaten by the enormous problems he even let Obama sit in on financial discussions way before he was in office..

            healthcare and social security have been a bull nobody wanted to take by the horns since Reagan I think, this is why we have the deficit problems today, not Obama's doing imho.
            Cain is the latest fad. His numbers will be dropping soon, if not already. It will most likely be Romney. I really wish Pawlenty didn't drop out, they gave Huntsman more attention along with Johnson, and Christie entered the race(even tho i am no fan of Christie, he's at least funny.)
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            • FlexxAeon
              Confirmed User
              • May 2003
              • 3765

              #81
              Originally posted by Minte
              Of course there is. Every social and fiscal policy that this administration has proposed comes from the left and/or the far left.

              Obama set the table with his healthcare reform. Stuffing that garbage bill down the throats of the country and basically telling the republicans TOO BAD,we got the power. The supreme court will have to waste their time determining if it's even constitutional. A wide majority of the country is against it.

              That was his defining moment. He pissed in the rights wheaties and they haven't forgotten.
              Nor will they. And we will see in 12 months if the country has.
              policies can come from as far left as the day is long, but c'mon. not every dem is a communist tree hugger just like not every repub is a evangelist racist. shit has to be somewhere in the middle or it gets thrown out.

              but see what i mean? people say they want obama to "show some leadership" and when he does something like lead people into the health care bill, suddenly it's been "stuffed down throats". the same type of health care that the republican front runner romney has already imposed. the "wide majority" is against health care? please. the "wide majority" is just againt obama.

              repubs weren't complaining when he extended the bush policies (the ones that that got us here....by the way) but the first policy he gets that he wants is already the 'defining moment' and the last straw.

              you're right - we will see what's up in 12 months but don't think that people haven't been paying attention to the way the repubs are acting.
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              • crockett
                in a van by the river
                • May 2003
                • 76818

                #82
                I just wanted to say I got a kick out of ABC's title for their story on the debate..

                "GOP Bickering: Candidates Butt Heads"

                The title is of course longer but on he main page it's shorted and looks like they are calling the GOP candidates butt heads.

                Last edited by crockett; 10-19-2011, 12:23 PM.
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                • Minte
                  Babemeister
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 7081

                  #83
                  Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                  policies can come from as far left as the day is long, but c'mon. not every dem is a communist tree hugger just like not every repub is a evangelist racist. shit has to be somewhere in the middle or it gets thrown out.

                  but see what i mean? people say they want obama to "show some leadership" and when he does something like lead people into the health care bill, suddenly it's been "stuffed down throats". the same type of health care that the republican front runner romney has already imposed. the "wide majority" is against health care? please. the "wide majority" is just against obama.

                  repubs weren't complaining when he extended the bush policies (the ones that that got us here....by the way) but the first policy he gets that he wants is already the 'defining moment' and the last straw.

                  you're right - we will see what's up in 12 months but don't think that people haven't been paying attention to the way the repubs are acting.
                  I don't disagree that somewhere in the middle has merit.

                  I do disagree that people are not against the healthcare bill,but against Obama. Afterall,he did win the election. For whatever reason,he won the job fair and square. And the healthcare reform bill as it should've been would also have merit. Not the bill that was passed. And more importantly the way it was passed. All the talk about transparency became nothing but a joke. Forcing people to buy a product. Adding much staff to the IRS to make sure they do.
                  While the country is in a severe recession,this administration needed to be focused on one thing. And they didn't do that.

                  I do give Obama high marks on how he is handling the middle east. He is insisting that the people that know how to win do their jobs.

                  However,it takes him too long to make a decision. Even if he isn't leading by committee,it appears as if he is.
                  You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

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                  • uno
                    RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 18450

                    #84
                    Originally posted by crockett
                    I just wanted to say I got a kick out of ABC's title for their story on the debate..

                    "GOP Bickering: Candidates Butt Heads"

                    The title is of course longer but on he main page it's shorted and looks like they are calling the GOP candidates butt heads.

                    They were acting like children on a playground.
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                    • FlexxAeon
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2003
                      • 3765

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Minte
                      I don't disagree that somewhere in the middle has merit.

                      I do disagree that people are not against the healthcare bill,but against Obama. Afterall,he did win the election. For whatever reason,he won the job fair and square. And the healthcare reform bill as it should've been would also have merit. Not the bill that was passed. And more importantly the way it was passed. All the talk about transparency became nothing but a joke. Forcing people to buy a product. Adding much staff to the IRS to make sure they do.
                      While the country is in a severe recession,this administration needed to be focused on one thing. And they didn't do that.

                      I do give Obama high marks on how he is handling the middle east. He is insisting that the people that know how to win do their jobs.

                      However,it takes him too long to make a decision. Even if he isn't leading by committee,it appears as if he is.
                      yeah it does take too long. 3 years and we're still in the same mess we were in when he got here. but that's probably because he's fighting an uphill battle. after all, he's merely a politician amongst the rest with checked power. ALL of these politicians have personal and/or political agendas, and they do shit to accomplish those agendas, sometimes in spite of whats good for the people. sadly, one of those current agendas it to get obama out of office.
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                      • _Richard_
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 30991

                        #86
                        Originally posted by crockett
                        I just wanted to say I got a kick out of ABC's title for their story on the debate..

                        "GOP Bickering: Candidates Butt Heads"

                        The title is of course longer but on he main page it's shorted and looks like they are calling the GOP candidates butt heads.

                        awesome

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                        • The Demon
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 7336

                          #87
                          Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                          yeah it does take too long. 3 years and we're still in the same mess we were in when he got here. but that's probably because he's fighting an uphill battle. after all, he's merely a politician amongst the rest with checked power. ALL of these politicians have personal and/or political agendas, and they do shit to accomplish those agendas, sometimes in spite of whats good for the people. sadly, one of those current agendas it to get obama out of office.
                          But you blamed Bush while he was in power. Now that it's Obama, it's not his fault because he's merely a politician? Double standards much?
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                          • BFT3K
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 10764

                            #88
                            Originally posted by The Demon
                            But you blamed Bush while he was in power. Now that it's Obama, it's not his fault because he's merely a politician? Double standards much?
                            Nope, I still blame Bush. No double standard here.

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                            • The Demon
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 7336

                              #89
                              Originally posted by BFT3K
                              Nope, I still blame Bush. No double standard here.
                              Well that's only because you're universally known as an ignorant buffoon that lives in constant denial.
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                              • BFT3K
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 10764

                                #90
                                What was that? You hear something? Was that a mosquito?

                                Where's my fucking fly swatter?...

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