ICM also will oversee systems that will process payments and verify users are at least 18 years old.

[DVTimes]

Can somone tell me how please?

this is regarding .xxx domains.

[DamianJ]

It'll have a pic of Vaughn's face and an audio file will play saying "Go on, promise you're over 18 and I will show you THE PORNO!!!!11"

[BIGTYMER]

Fuck dot xxx

[pornguy]

they can do it because no one else has been able to.

[u-Bob]

So, if you buy a .xxx domain you have to agree to only use a processor that ICM approves of and give the ICM access to your member database?

[MaDalton]

well, otherwise they will get no single german company to run a .xxx

[Barry-xlovecam]

They control your domain, they control your processing — will they want to control your _______ next?

[BIGTYMER]

Big Brother.

[BlackCrayon]

lol, soon we'll hear that people can't even access free .xxx sites without giving ICM your credit card details to "verify" you...

[My Pimp]

With the help of credit cards ..like most age verification companies do.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by My Pimp

With the help of credit cards ..like most age verification companies do.

"verify users are at least 18 years old."

so if you have a blog/tgp/tube site, are they going to put some pop up that askes for your credit card, and if not, they will block you?

sounds great

so what if your site is not adult?

or what if in your country the age is say 21 to access porn?

so have ccbill been contacted about this?

and what if a 16 year old gets on to a .xxx site? could the parents sue the domain owner?

[seeric]

Go look at some of the .xxx sites that are live. Same processors as every other adult site on the Internet.

[DVTimes]

if they are selling these .xxx domains with the add on that they stop under 18's and process payments, then mabe we should all buty them, then if they do not do as they claim, lets sue the firm for false advertising and selling us somthing that is not true.

[DVTimes]

http://www.icmregistry.com/about/

For those wishing to avoid adult content .XXX easily allows Internet users to filter out all unwanted .XXX content thanks to its unique MetaCert Tagging system

yipee so even they have set it up to make them more blocable.

[MrCain]

Does this mean you can only have censored tours on .xxx domains?

[MaDalton]

you all make that sound like it cannot be done - germany does it since years. and it has a nice side effect: no free HC content on german domains available...

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

http://www.icmregistry.com/about/



yipee so even they have set it up to make them more blocable.

The only thing I need to do to block my sites is use words like fuck, cumshot, and blowjob.



Any search engine or browser that can't block my sites already is retarded.

How the fuck does xxx hide porn from kids when they can type in anything.xxx and
be guaranteed to find porn?

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by MrCain

Does this mean you can only have censored tours on .xxx domains?

Originally Posted by DVTimes

ICM also will oversee systems that will process payments and verify users are at least 18 years old.

Originally Posted by MaDalton

you all make that sound like it cannot be done - germany does it since years. and it has a nice side effect: no free HC content on german domains available...

casting.xxx is showing HC content without any age verification.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

How the fuck does xxx hide porn from kids when they can type in anything.xxx and
be guaranteed to find porn?

They don't. It's a marketing ruse to distract from the true intentions of the firm, which is just to make money. If ICM wanted to protect kids, they would have founded .kids, but there is no money in that extension.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

casting.xxx is showing HC content without any age verification.

There is currently no way to verify the age of a person sitting at a keyboard, clicking a link to request to see adult content.

[Wizzo]

Its based off Paul Markum's magic join link technology which is far out of the box to explain to the rest of us!

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by seeric

There is currently no way to verify the age of a person sitting at a keyboard, clicking a link to request to see adult content.

I agree. Yet the ICM is telling the media that's exactly what they'll be doing.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Its based off Paul Markum's magic join link technology which is far out of the box to explain to the rest of us!

Magic join links... always found that puzzling

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by seeric

There is currently no way to verify the age of a person sitting at a keyboard, clicking a link to request to see adult content.

from what i am reading, the only thing .xxx owners do is insist that you add some meta tags so your site can be blocked.

well that does not stop under 18's at all, unless they have there pc set to block such sites.

so surly its a false claim. surly they are selling a product thats not what it claims to be. surly thats against the law?

also what if you do not add meta tags on your site? do they remove the domain from you?

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

casting.xxx is showing HC content without any age verification.

i could not see any meta tags on the site.

so is there system not working? i thought these sites were being scaned each day.

so why have they allowed this site to opperate with non of the meta tags that they insist on you using?

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

from what i am reading, the only thing .xxx owners do is insist that you add some meta tags so your site can be blocked.

casting.xxx has no special meta tags and no special header response tags... So the ICM is not even enforcing the rules they pretend they have?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Its based off Paul Markum's magic join link technology which is far out of the box to explain to the rest of us!

You fucking shit head.

I laughed so hard I spit my damn Pepsi out on my keyboard, monitor, and cell phone. Holy crap that was funny!

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

casting.xxx has no special meta tags and no special header response tags... So the ICM is not even enforcing the rules they pretend they have?

yes

so there system must not be working.

so clearly they are selling a product/service that is not what they claim. so surly they are breaking the law.

ironikly they are doing what they claim the new domain will stop. thats have sites selling illigall stuff.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

casting.xxx has no special meta tags and no special header response tags... So the ICM is not even enforcing the rules they pretend they have?

does anyone have any child protection softwear that blocks sites?

if so could they switch it on, and see if they can access this site.

if they can i think we should inform the press that the sites can be accessed, even though they clearly claim they cannot.

i am sure that one could sue for that.

[DVTimes]

bump for more thoughts

[MrCain]

FUCK .xxx!

[epitome]

ICM certainly is making a lot of claims to get your money and none of them have been implemented. It is a FL based company.

The FTC website is your friend.

[Domain Diva]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

I agree. Yet the ICM is telling the media that's exactly what they'll be doing.

Taken from thier website .." A revolutionary new payment system to accompany your current offerings is being developed for launch in 2012. The system will offer micropayment opportunities and will be offered exclusively to .XXX domain owners providing very competitive rates "

Looks like a plan !!

[Jack Sparrow]

You guys think this is bad?
Its actually a good thing. Next thing they should do, is block all porn on .coms.
1991 here we come.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

1991 here we come.

Paul Markham would love that. "Block all online porn so magazine sales will go up again"

[gleem]

The whole reason the AVS system goldrush of 97 -2000 imploded is because VISA /MC came out and said you cannot use credit cards as a way to verify someone is over 18.

They went so far as to threaten to close merch accounts if you implied in any text or even hinted that you were using CC's to verify the age of the surfer.


I don't think visa will allow this again.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

So, if you buy a .xxx domain you have to agree to only use a processor that ICM approves of and give the ICM access to your member database?

Not sure how one leads to the other, but the first part is accurate, I am sure.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

lol, soon we'll hear that people can't even access free .xxx sites without giving ICM your credit card details to "verify" you...

Good chance.

Originally Posted by My Pimp

With the help of credit cards ..like most age verification companies do.

Originally Posted by DVTimes

so what if your site is not adult?

Then according to ICM, they could not have the .xxx domain

Originally Posted by Rochard

You fucking shit head.

I laughed so hard I spit my damn Pepsi out on my keyboard, monitor, and cell phone. Holy crap that was funny!

Kind of early in the day for soda pop, isn't it?

Originally Posted by gleem

The whole reason the AVS system goldrush of 97 -2000 imploded is because VISA /MC came out and said you cannot use credit cards as a way to verify someone is over 18.

They went so far as to threaten to close merch accounts if you implied in any text or even hinted that you were using CC's to verify the age of the surfer.


I don't think visa will allow this again.

Well, while they say you can't verify one is an adult with a credit card, I think the practice shows otherwise.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The only thing I need to do to block my sites is use words like fuck, cumshot, and blowjob.



Any search engine or browser that can't block my sites already is retarded.

How the fuck does xxx hide porn from kids when they can type in anything.xxx and
be guaranteed to find porn?

google adsense allows the use of the words FUCK and other profanity on sites that use their ads... interesting huh.

and I have seen sssoooo many high traffic mainstream blogs that have profanity and nudity all day long with google ads too. It is quite funny.

[2intense]

fuck .xxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by baddog

Not sure how one leads to the other, but the first part is accurate, I am sure.

second part is based on the "verify that members are 18+" part of the statement.

The IFFOR policies include for example:

F. Consent to Monitoring

All registrants in the sTLD must agree to permit automated monitoring of their sites for compliance with IFFOR policies, including without limitation, IFFOR policies requiring site labeling, prohibiting child pornography, and prohibiting content or conduct designed to suggest the presence of child pornography. Registrants must agree not to employ technological or other means to defeat or prevent such monitoring.

So .xxx domain owners are already required to give IFFOR/ICM access to their sites to (for example) check for the presence of cp. They could do something similar to implement their "18+ users" statement...

[DotXXX]

Let?s see if I can answer everyone in one post.

Verification of 18 year olds is for the purchase of a .xxx domain name. We cannot sell adult domains to minors.

Yes, a micropayment system is in development. No ? there is no requirement to use it. You can use any payment processor that you choose to do business with.

No, buying a .xxx domain doesn?t require relinquishing your database details, nor does it require U/P access to sites.

Meta tagging is done for webmasters, using WC3 POWDER. The labeling technology is all web based, doesn?t require the insertion of code, and is automated beyond adding new .xxx sites to the listing. Parents need to be involved enough to use browser ad ons, etc. Much the same as with .coms.

Did I miss anyone?

[epitome]

So you're offering a really expensive RTA label that we can get for free on our $9 dot com?

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by DotXXX

Let?s see if I can answer everyone in one post.

Verification of 18 year olds is for the purchase of a .xxx domain name. We cannot sell adult domains to minors.

Yes, a micropayment system is in development. No ? there is no requirement to use it. You can use any payment processor that you choose to do business with.

No, buying a .xxx domain doesn?t require relinquishing your database details, nor does it require U/P access to sites.

Meta tagging is done for webmasters, using WC3 POWDER. The labeling technology is all web based, doesn?t require the insertion of code, and is automated beyond adding new .xxx sites to the listing. Parents need to be involved enough to use browser ad ons, etc. Much the same as with .coms.

Did I miss anyone?

Hi, you will be quoted many more times than this. Enjoy the ride.

[DotXXX]

Originally Posted by epitome

So you're offering a really expensive RTA label that we can get for free on our $9 dot com?

We believe that the technology involved in the labeling, being more current, is much more reliable and we can confidently say that 100% of sites will be labeled.

This is a benefit to consumers. There are many more benefits to a .xxx domain for site owners.

[DotXXX]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Hi, you will be quoted many more times than this. Enjoy the ride.

I'm certain it's going to be interesting.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by DotXXX

We believe that the technology involved in the labeling, being more current, is much more reliable and we can confidently say that 100% of sites will be labeled.

This is a benefit to consumers. There are many more benefits to a .xxx domain for site owners.

The only way that would matter is if you lobby to make XXX mandatory as any responsible webmasters RTA labels their site, which is respected by all filtering software.

Are you going to lobby to make XXX mandatory? If not, it is a moot point as I would rather label my site once and save $80/yr. per domain or whatever.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by DotXXX

No, buying a .xxx domain doesn?t require relinquishing your database details, nor does it require U/P access to sites.

that statement contradicts the "Appendix B IFFOR Baseline Policies ":

F. Consent to Monitoring

All registrants in the sTLD must agree to permit automated monitoring of their sites for compliance with IFFOR policies, including without limitation, IFFOR policies requiring site labeling, prohibiting child pornography, and prohibiting content or conduct designed to suggest the presence of child pornography. Registrants must agree not to employ technological or other means to defeat or prevent such monitoring.

You're saying IFFOR/ICM doesn't require access to password protected areas.
The IFFOR Policies documents say that you do require access to password protected areas.

Or do you not consider "password protection" to be a "means" to limit access to certain content?
If that's the case, there's no way for IFFOR/ICM to monitor an entire site for compliance with IFFOR policies (including the anti cp one) and the ICMs statement about guaranteeing that .xxx domains are free from cp become meaningless.

[DotXXX]

Originally Posted by epitome

The only way that would matter is if you lobby to make XXX mandatory as any responsible webmasters RTA labels their site, which is respected by all filtering software.

Are you going to lobby to make XXX mandatory? If not, it is a moot point as I would rather label my site once and save $80/yr. per domain or whatever.

It matters in earning trust from consumers. All .XXX sites are automatically labeled.

No. There has never been any plan to lobby to make .XXX mandatory and regulated.

[EukerVoorn]

I can't believe the extreme stupidity in this thread and it explains a lot of why many in the porn biz are having a hard time. Why would it be neccessary to use special tags and coding to label an .xxx domain? THE LABEL IS ALREADY THERE IN THE FORM OF THE XXX EXTENSION!!!! Next step is disabling displaying xxx sites in your browser software if you have kids and I'm sure the browsers will implement this in their first next versions. The whole point is that XXX should have been here in 1996 already. It's 2011 now and later is better than never.

As for the rest of the horror rumors... I didn't see any of all that crap on the ICM site when applying for xxx domains. In fact under the current landrush, they don't require anything, apart from a payment.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by epitome

The only way that would matter is if you lobby to make XXX mandatory as any responsible webmasters RTA labels their site, which is respected by all filtering software.

I know you can do better than that.