I'm looking for a webby/company to partner with

[hennessy]

Hey guys,

I'm looking for a webby. I've tried it and I suck at it lol. I have a ton of content, photo and video and it's just all collecting dust. Here's a bit about me if yo don't know:

I'm a photographer. I have images published in roughly 22 nationally distributed magazines and ezines. I shoot about 100 chicks a year give or take.

For who ever wants to partner with me, I have some stipulations;

60/40 splt, with my taking the 60
I will edit photos and video and upload
You should have an active program with good rep (If I want a dead program, I can start my own)
You have to be a numbers based person; meaning you will be able to give me a 100% launch date, say something and mean it/follow through.
I will need access to the ccbill
I will need access to the members area
You will design the site as well as host it and ccbill.
We will start the site with about 40+ models with about 18k photos. These are all my old photos from 2009. Once they are all uploaded, I will start with 2010 and eventually 2011. My goal is to use revenue from the site, to travel to other states to get something different than the looks I already have.

The biggest thing I'm looking for is honesty and communication. As long as we communicate and are on the up and up, it'll be a great working relationship.







If interested, you can hit me up via icq 136930790 or pm me.

Cheers
Jay

[Profits of Doom]

Holy fucking shit she is stunning, nice work!

[LucyVanAngel]

If you have fetish content, i am interested

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

Holy fucking shit she is stunning, nice work!

I have 30 sets of her alone ;)

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by LucyVanAngel

If you have fetish content, i am interested

Sorry, I don't do fetish.

[LeRoy]

Sounds like a good opp

The content you are starting with....

Is it published anywhere, sold to anyone else, on another program or currently reselling it?

New content for the your program....

How much are you going to shoot after launch? Is this a "I'll use the money we make to shoot more content" thing

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Sounds like a good opp

The content you are starting with....

Is it published anywhere, sold to anyone else, on another program or currently reselling it?

New content for the your program....

How much are you going to shoot after launch? Is this a "I'll use the money we make to shoot more content" thing

Of the first 45 girls to go up, about 12 of them have been sold to about three other guys. No one else is reselling or anything like that. The old content that's going up first is 2009.

Again, I shoot about 100 chicks per year so I will be busy shooting until the day I die. My facebook is filled with 2k chicks that will drop what they're doing to come in and shoot with me. I will NEVER run out of content or shooting opportunities, EVER. I don't have to pick up my camera for the rest of this year and I STILL have 260 single chicks I've shot, that's not them coming in for more shoots. Figure each girl comes in at LEAST four times per year, so you do the math; 260 separate girls at 4 times each = quite a lot.

I also forgot to mention that a lot of the mags I get my work in, they put a link to my site and one of the reasons I want to move it from my blog is so they are diverted to the paysite and I make more money from free traffic from the magazine.

[hennessy]

I also should note;

My day job is to develop portfolio and shoot and submit to magazines. I've been doing this for 12 years and have yet to slow down. So who ever I go with has no worries of my stopping or anything. This is my day job, it's what I do. I'm looking for extra money to travel to new places for new faces as well as get a studio ;)

[waltgator]

hit us up we might be able to help/partner up..

Cheers
Walt

[INever]

I've done mainstream luxury content magazine publishing and also promote mainstream on the web. In addition to adult.

Email me at [email protected]
replace 00 with oo

PS, love your work for real. 260 girls a year is prolific too.

[Kenny B!]

Nice content, here's a bump for you!

[Forest]

60% for content?

[Lace]

Originally Posted by forest

60% for content?

+1

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[garce]

I'm just gonna say, WOW... I can't help you, but damn. Truly eye-catching and attention-grabbing images.

[SmutHammer]

Do you have all model realeases and 2257 documents? what is your content, softcore glamour, or....? do you have video's too or just photo's?

nice work, by the way.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Forest

60% for content?

I don't think you're just getting content you're getting a good photographer who can shoot content on consistent basis.

I have partnered up with producers and had sites make 10's of millions of dollars...sound like a good deal for the right guy.

[ruff]

Sent you an ICQ.

[Forest]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I don't think you're just getting content you're getting a good photographer who can shoot content on consistent basis.

I have partnered up with producers and had sites make 10's of millions of dollars...sound like a good deal for the right guy.

its still content weather you have the shooter or not. and while his stuff is good it wont make millions in this day and age online.

sorry but i dont think you will find anyone who is extremely successful in this biz who would do that

Im partner in several properties with producers and none get more than 25% of the net. and one of the programs does several 100 joins a day.

and anyone who will take this deal wont be bringing in 10's of millions. why would i pay someone millions for content on a 60/40 deal when i can buy it for a few 10's of thousands? or even 100k

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I don't think you're just getting content you're getting a good photographer who can shoot content on consistent basis.

I have partnered up with producers and had sites make 10's of millions of dollars...sound like a good deal for the right guy.

Winner, winner chicken dinner!

All the partner would be doing is providing the design, ccbill visa and updating the site. I'm the one shooting and editing all the content.

I have more content on reserve than most people shoot in 5 years.

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by Forest

its still content weather you have the shooter or not. and while his stuff is good it wont make millions in this day and age online.

sorry but i dont think you will find anyone who is extremely successful in this biz who would do that

Im partner in several properties with producers and none get more than 25% of the net. and one of the programs does several 100 joins a day.

and anyone who will take this deal wont be bringing in 10's of millions. why would i pay someone millions for content on a 60/40 deal when i can buy it for a few 10's of thousands? or even 100k

I understand if it's not for you, it's not for you but hey, for the right program, a little more is worth nothing. You dont need it, fine by you, move on to the next offer. I'll still look for someone who wants to partner up! If not, no worries.

And fyi: I have several successful companies that are hitting me up, I'm just going to weed through them to find out which will be the best partnership for both.

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Do you have all model realeases and 2257 documents? what is your content, softcore glamour, or....? do you have video's too or just photo's?

nice work, by the way.

Yes, I have all 2257 documents and releases. Content is glamour with some softcore and I have some video. I haven't started hitting video hard until now though.

[Forest]

Originally Posted by hennessy

All the partner would be doing is providing the design, ccbill visa and updating the site. I'm the one shooting and editing all the content.

goes to show how little you know about this end of the business

the number 1 thing your missing in this entire scenario is TRAFFIC. without it the content might as well still be sitting on your hd.

lol @ thinking the above is all you need and with ccbill no less

good luck with the project

[Forest]

Originally Posted by hennessy

And fyi: I have several successful companies that are hitting me up, I'm just going to weed through them to find out which will be the best partnership for both.

please come back to us in a year and show us the successful company that made a ton of money on a 60/40 deal like this

[ruff]

Wow, the millionaire webmasters won't touch you. I may not qualify so maybe I better not throw my hat in the ring here. I sure won't be able to generate "several 100 joins a day" or "sites that make 10's of millions". Let me know if you are interested in working with me. Can't guarantee a million dollars a week in today's market, but you never know.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by hennessy

Winner, winner chicken dinner!

All the partner would be doing is providing the design, ccbill visa and updating the site. I'm the one shooting and editing all the content.

I have more content on reserve than most people shoot in 5 years.

Who will be providing traffic and affiliates?

If the answer is "nobody," I have to ask... what's the point?

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Sly

Who will be providing traffic and affiliates?

If the answer is "nobody," I have to ask... what's the point?

let me quote the OP

Winner Winner chicken dinner!!!

[Forest]

Hey Sly

top bucks is a successful program. maybe they would be interested in an incredible deal like this

after all 60% for content like this is a steal!

[Sly]

No no, I'm not raining on anyone's parade. Fantastic, unique content and I'm sure he can find someone that will be willing to make a deal of some sort.

However... claiming the partner will only be providing a web design and processing is like claiming a producer is only clicking a couple camera buttons. :-)

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by Forest

goes to show how little you know about this end of the business

the number 1 thing your missing in this entire scenario is TRAFFIC. without it the content might as well still be sitting on your hd.

lol @ thinking the above is all you need and with ccbill no less

good luck with the project

I'm not missing traffic at all. It's not my specialty.

Let me explain how my thinking works;

I say that I want to partner up. I do the difficult work of having models come in at a rate most people wish they could. I have and often shoot four new faces a day, more on the weekend.

A company/webmaster that has sites and traffic sees my post and thinks; "hmm, I can design a site and throw traffic at it and all I need to do is make sure this guy has content and I make 40% for feeding it to my already existing network. I can do that"

Then that webby contacts me and we agree and all the know it alls will still post in this thread long after I've moved on.

It's how I see it working. If that rubbed some of you the wrong way, sorry, this deal isn't for you but I'll tell you what, I've gotten quite a few hits from webbies that are interested. If this isn't for you, I understand, but there's a few who see what I'm saying.

And one last thing; Once the site is up and going, I have a pretty vast little traffic network that I will send to the site as well. My network continues to grow via my mailing list (2200+ photographers) and other venues. While of course most of them will say anything, I do believe a nice chunk will join.

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by Sly

No no, I'm not raining on anyone's parade. Fantastic, unique content and I'm sure he can find someone that will be willing to make a deal of some sort.

However... claiming the partner will only be providing a web design and processing is like claiming a producer is only clicking a couple camera buttons. :-)

When I speak like that, it's in generalities.

The webbys job will be just as important as mine. What is the number one complaint about paysites? girls quitting. Not an issue with me, All I have to do is announce that I have free time tomorrow 12-2 and I GUARANTEE you no less than 25 females, FRESH NEW faces to me will beg for the spot. Girls on the site not an issue.

And fyi, the producer is only clicking a couple of camera buttons. In fact, they're clicking only one. ;)

[Sly]

Originally Posted by hennessy

And fyi, the producer is only clicking a couple of camera buttons. In fact, they're clicking only one. ;)

LOL. I like that.

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by Sly

LOL. I like that.

I can come up with a good one every now and then haha

[epitome]

50/50 is common in gay so 60/40 wouldn't be outrageous if you find somebody with great skill willing to crank out content.

Before you say that's nuts, think of how fucked up straight is and how good gay is still doing before throwing in your useless two cents.

[raymor]

Someone could provide ONLY traffic and get 50% of gross. Why would they provide traffic, hosting, design, and processing to get 40% of net?

[hennessy]

We're beating a dead horse and getting off topic.

Those who are interested are contacting me, those who aren't, are posting here in the thread.

[BAKO]

nice content

[harvey]

Hey Hennessy, truly amazing and original content. I might have something for you but right now having so much things at the same time, so if you don't find what you're looking for, please contact me in a couple months. And I mean it.

Either way, good luck, so refreshing to see that kind of content

[Sin_Vraal]

Great content!

I would like to point out however that larger www traffic sites or mailers or chatters etc, all have one thing in common that makes this deal not so good. they can send their traffic to a provider who will give them upwards of 80% of a join value these days.

I know atleast one other person in this thread likes to see 40+ / join for his traffic, and typically a join without a cross only generates about 42 GROSS.... so you have to cross sale to even break even.

you have great content, but honestly you are valuing traffic to low. You need to think marketing 101... Location location location... or in other words traffic traffic traffic. with traffic you can sell anything. just look at your standard tube site... even giving it away they can still manage to send a few joins.

TRAFFIC IS KING. here is the mathematical proof.

TRAFFIC (even shit traffic) is money;
time is money;
money is power;

traffic = time = money = power.

[PB-Jim]

First of all, absolutely incredible content. You are an excellent photographer with stunning models.

My only concern in this for those qualified is the traffic. Tossing up a site and processing the money is easy. The harder part is sending the traffic. It's going to be hard to find a good partnership where they are willing to give 60% of net profits when they could buy there own content and not have to give up any profit. Most people you would want to partner with have the capital to invest in content and don't need to ride off of a partnership.

Just my $0.02. I'm not hating. I think you have great content, but I think you should consider restructuring your partnership deal (which I imagine will happen naturally).

-Jim

[facialfreak]

Very cute girl .... but I have to ask, Do her elbows bend???

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Forest

60% for content?

That's what I was thinking when I read it, thought he better have some content that knocks you out of your shoes, and frankly. It's nice, but not that nice.

[CurrentlySober]

Was she about to do a poo?

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Anthony

That's what I was thinking when I read it, thought he better have some content that knocks you out of your shoes, and frankly. It's nice, but not that nice.

shhhh u and i are dinosaurs and know nothing about the "new" business model

[Forest]

Originally Posted by hennessy

My network continues to grow via my mailing list (2200+ photographers) and other venues. While of course most of them will say anything, I do believe a nice chunk will join.

2200 email is a "vast" network?

at todays ratios of 1;500 you Might get 4 joins out of that traffic that will last an avg of 3 months.

so let do the math

assuming your 60/40 split is on the net of the program you will be making a killing!

and sorry to piss on your idea man (its old school i know) but anyone who will partner with you on a 60/40 split will most likely not be able to generate the volume of joins you need to achieve your goal of using you % to fund all your travels and model costs for future content. and the reason i say this is that most people who can afford to buy the content will do just that. its the people who dont or cant pay the upfront cost of the content who will jump at this

think about this. if someone could do this on your split dont you think the best shooters in the biz would be doing this already? and No offense while I like your work its not the best in the business.

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal

TRAFFIC (even shit traffic) is money;
time is money;
money is power;

traffic = time = money = power.

qft

without traffic the best content in the biz is worthless

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by facialfreak

Very cute girl .... but I have to ask, Do her elbows bend???

They do but not when in fashion poses. ;)

[hennessy]

Originally Posted by Forest

2200 email is a "vast" network?

at todays ratios of 1;500 you Might get 4 joins out of that traffic that will last an avg of 3 months.

so let do the math

assuming your 60/40 split is on the net of the program you will be making a killing!

and sorry to piss on your idea man (its old school i know) but anyone who will partner with you on a 60/40 split will most likely not be able to generate the volume of joins you need to achieve your goal of using you % to fund all your travels and model costs for future content. and the reason i say this is that most people who can afford to buy the content will do just that. its the people who dont or cant pay the upfront cost of the content who will jump at this

think about this. if someone could do this on your split dont you think the best shooters in the biz would be doing this already? and No offense while I like your work its not the best in the business.

Again, we're beating a dead horse.

I don't pay models so that's not a big deal. If the site doesn't generate a few hundred bucks to pay for a plane ticket and hotel, then yes, it's a bust l would NEVER sell all my content, in fact, I had a clown try and try and try and try to talk me into doing a shopping cart per model, turned that idea down.

If it doesn't work for you, totally cool! I have about 19 people that have contacted me and interested, I will stick with them. As far as my "vast" email, 2200 may not be vast, but what I meant was these guys love my work and will join. If 1k signups and rebills a month. This isn't porn emails, this is professional photographers who want to learn from me.

[The Ghost]

To the OP, make a site yourself. Don't do a partnership. You'll only regret it later.


Contact via email or icq if for friendly free advice.

[marlboroack]

Let's do business. Contacting you now.

[vsex]

Tube sites don't steal pics so I think we have a winner of an idea here!