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  • porno jew
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Nov 2006
    • 10166

    #301
    300 .............

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    • epitome
      So Fucking Lame
      • Jun 2009
      • 12156

      #302
      LOL you people are dumb and have no understanding of business and law.

      This is a civil matter and relates to the contract you have with her. Sue.

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      • signupdamnit
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2007
        • 6697

        #303
        Originally posted by Failed
        This is what I don't understand either. Everyone bitches and moans about the industry and its problems. .xxx, tubes, content theft, card banging, file sharing, etc, etc, etc. Yet, here is a clear example of theft, fucking crystal clear. Now we find people supporting it, people blowing it off as no big deal, and everyone just keeping their mouths shut. Take notes, on who says what in these threads, this is an important lesson to all affiliates.
        If you notice most of the ones supporting it and telling affiliates to shut up are sponsors from other programs or services. For the most part they aren't affiliates. Possibly with the exception of one or two people who based on how they act here seem to be mostly trolls.

        So on one end affiliates shouldn't stick up for their fellow affiliates who are getting screwed because "it's none of their business" yet it's perfectly fine for sponsors and reps from other services and programs to come here and badmouth the affiliates who are speaking up. Strange double standard there. I speak up because I don't want one of my sponsors to do this crap tomorrow and that's more likely to happen if I don't speak out and raise a little hell.

        You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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        • Some Guy
          Affordable Content!
          • Dec 2001
          • 1750

          #304
          Originally posted by EukerVoorn
          We would never treat our affiliates like this. Even if you owe one $1, you pay it.
          This.

          I've promoted Melissa for years. I probably haven't made her a sale in ages but, regardless, this is kind of a lame way to announce the closing of her affiliate program. "Hey, thanks for promoting me for ten years, everyone. Now get fucked!" Not cool. Then again, this business isn't exactly overflowing with moralistic people so I'm not surprised.

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          • Supz
            Arthur Flegenheimer
            • Jul 2006
            • 11057

            #305
            Originally posted by Failed
            Note to self, never use GalaxyVisions. Condoning and supporting theft can't be an attractive quality of a hosting providor.
            Note to self, Failed is an idiot and has no clue about business. I am not supporting what they are doing. People are making it seems like Reality Kings who is a huge program with massive amount of affiliates making huge amounts of money went out of business and beat people on there money when this is completely not the case.

            And missing your virtual account is going to put us out of business.

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            • signupdamnit
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2007
              • 6697

              #306
              Originally posted by epitome
              LOL you people are dumb and have no understanding of business and law.

              This is a civil matter and relates to the contract you have with her. Sue.
              It's a civil matter at the very least but that fact does not necessarily preclude a criminal act. It's incredibly rare but under some circumstances it has happened that such things became more. I could probably locate some case law if I really needed to but blah.

              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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              • Supz
                Arthur Flegenheimer
                • Jul 2006
                • 11057

                #307
                Originally posted by signupdamnit
                Why does it matter if anyone is "out a shitload of money"? If it's even $10 then that is their ten dollars which is due to them.

                People like you come here and tell us that unless we are affiliates with the program who are owed a lot of cash we shouldn't be speaking but at the same time who the hell are you? Are you even an affiliate in adult business at all? If not, then you have no room to talk about affiliates complaining or calling a sponsor out over this. For the most part affiliates understand why this stuff is bad because we empathize. I've noticed lots of other sponsors and others like yourself defending this sort of thing and let me tell you brother that gives me a very bad feeling about some of you. Maybe some of you are the ones who should be sitting down and shutting up?
                I am not saying only affiliates should come and bitch. The truth of the matter is, no adult porn site is going to stay around for ever, especially a solo girl, and keep converting like it did from day one, unless is has mainstream popularity, like a BangBus did or a MilfHunter did etc. This is a solo girl site that hasnt been popular in years, the content on the site was very old and people who want to buy porn want something new and fresh, which this deffinetly wasnt. The point is that I cant imagine a lot of people even pushing this site. So far everyone that comes into here hasnt said they are owed more then the account minimum. Yes, if you are owed 10 dollars you should get it. Do you know how many affilaite programs owe me money for the less then $100 rule. This is part of the business. It is something you adjust your business practices too. I stop promoting them because it does not convert and I move on.


                I do not think anyone should lose out on money, and in every other case like SOBV etc I would never take this side. But this is an old outdates site that hasnt converted me a sale in 2 years. I would assume all others who pushed her from back in the day would agree its been a while since this site had any momentum.

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                • Failed
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 2301

                  #308
                  Originally posted by Supz
                  Note to self, Failed is an idiot and has no clue about business. I am not supporting what they are doing. People are making it seems like Reality Kings who is a huge program with massive amount of affiliates making huge amounts of money went out of business and beat people on there money when this is completely not the case.

                  And missing your virtual account is going to put us out of business.
                  Nope, you won't be affected at all by my lack of business. Quite honestly, I'm not that big, I made $1k in affiliate sales last month. Hardly a player in the industry. But, I keep working, one day...

                  The reality is, you're defending their actions and condoning theft. You say it's no big deal, you don't understand the big fuss, it's not like it was huge amounts of money. Tell me, intelligent business man, does a little theft not mean the same as a lot of theft? Does it matter that these thieves stole tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands?

                  If I'm an idiot for believing thieves should be held accountable for their actions, then so be it.
                  (ICQ - 664784872)

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                  • porno jew
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 10166

                    #309
                    lol where you getting 'tens of thousands' from retard? so far we have a grand total of six bucks lost.

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                    • Supz
                      Arthur Flegenheimer
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 11057

                      #310
                      Originally posted by Failed
                      Nope, you won't be affected at all by my lack of business. Quite honestly, I'm not that big, I made $1k in affiliate sales last month. Hardly a player in the industry. But, I keep working, one day...

                      The reality is, you're defending their actions and condoning theft. You say it's no big deal, you don't understand the big fuss, it's not like it was huge amounts of money. Tell me, intelligent business man, does a little theft not mean the same as a lot of theft? Does it matter that these thieves stole tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands?

                      If I'm an idiot for believing thieves should be held accountable for their actions, then so be it.
                      I think if you would have put the time of these posts of yours into your sites. You would be a lot better off. You just signed up this year. If you have been here for the last 2 or 3 years. You would know that a lot of programs have gone out of business. A lot of money is missing, and no one has done shit. You are not the occupy wall st of GFY. Another program will go out of business and take peoples money before the year is over. But if you want to stay with this for the long term. You have to be able to adjust quickly. Do some more research before signing up for a program, and get the most out of your efforts. If you have spent 1 hour marketing for Melissa Midwest this year. You spent 1 hour to much, it is an old site with old content and no momentum. It has been on the downturn for a while now. And if you do not see this. It will be hard to succeed. If you sign up to programs based on how hot the girl is, it will be hard to succeed. Picking sponsors and content is more then that. There is a bigger picture.

                      And I do not condone any stealing of affiliates money.
                      Last edited by Supz; 10-15-2011, 06:57 PM.

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                      • signupdamnit
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 6697

                        #311
                        Originally posted by Supz
                        I am not saying only affiliates should come and bitch. The truth of the matter is, no adult porn site is going to stay around for ever, especially a solo girl, and keep converting like it did from day one, unless is has mainstream popularity, like a BangBus did or a MilfHunter did etc. This is a solo girl site that hasnt been popular in years, the content on the site was very old and people who want to buy porn want something new and fresh, which this deffinetly wasnt. The point is that I cant imagine a lot of people even pushing this site. So far everyone that comes into here hasnt said they are owed more then the account minimum. Yes, if you are owed 10 dollars you should get it. Do you know how many affilaite programs owe me money for the less then $100 rule. This is part of the business. It is something you adjust your business practices too. I stop promoting them because it does not convert and I move on.


                        I do not think anyone should lose out on money, and in every other case like SOBV etc I would never take this side. But this is an old outdates site that hasnt converted me a sale in 2 years. I would assume all others who pushed her from back in the day would agree its been a while since this site had any momentum.
                        I have $400 - $600 a month in rebills and new sales to one sponsor in particular who hasn't updated in four years and isn't listed on either signbucks.com or whopaidme. Do you think I want to lose $400 a month in rebills in this same way? And for every other sponsor like this which I have? No. Those rebills are mine. I sent them and I want my money.

                        There are right ways to shut down programs and there are wrong ways to shut down. This is an example of a wrong way. And it doesn't matter how many affiliates you think are owed money or how much you think it is because you probably don't really know that just as I don't.

                        You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                        • Supz
                          Arthur Flegenheimer
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 11057

                          #312
                          Originally posted by porno jew
                          lol where you getting 'tens of thousands' from retard? so far we have a grand total of six bucks lost.
                          This is the point I am trying to make. I am not for theft from affiliates, obviously. I guess trying to explain it is logical terms doesnt work on here.

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                          • Failed
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2301

                            #313
                            Originally posted by porno jew
                            lol where you getting 'tens of thousands' from retard? so far we have a grand total of six bucks lost.
                            Read the whole thread, there is more than the one person claiming the $6. And again, you're voice here has no validity at all. You can't/won't answer any of the questions I posed to you. You won't call for actual proof by telling biggy to post the numbers that he only has access to now, you're just a fucking useless troll or making money off this theft as well.

                            So again, why don't you, who so highly values facts and reality, call for biggy to post the numbers he has access to? So we can all find out the real numbers. Fucking coward.
                            (ICQ - 664784872)

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                            • porno jew
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 10166

                              #314
                              Originally posted by Failed
                              making money off this theft as well.
                              proof or ban.

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                              • porno jew
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 10166

                                #315
                                if you think your white knight crusade is going to stop some other sponsor going broke and not paying affiliates in the future you are delusional.


                                Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                I have $400 - $600 a month in rebills and new sales to one sponsor in particular who hasn't updated in four years and isn't listed on either signbucks.com or whopaidme. Do you think I want to lose $400 a month in rebills in this same way? And for every other sponsor like this which I have? No. Those rebills are mine. I sent them and I want my money.

                                There are right ways to shut down programs and there are wrong ways to shut down. This is an example of a wrong way. And it doesn't matter how many affiliates you think are owed money or how much you think it is because you probably don't really know that just as I don't.

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