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  • signupdamnit
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2007
    • 6697

    #121
    Originally posted by Biggy2
    anything else? let me be your punching bag.
    What about the affiliates getting ripped off who are looking to feed their kids or buy presents with that money? Are they your punching bag then too? It's despicable. The going away note was at least respectful but the way it's being done, not so. Maybe you have a good excuse and there is more going on but from what I see so far you people are crooks.

    You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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    • Biggy2
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2002
      • 1821

      #122
      Originally posted by signupdamnit
      Sounds like bullshit to me.

      Take a look at http://siteanalytics.compete.com/melissamidwest.com/

      143,960 uniques to a paysite (just one) and you are telling me they can't afford to live and pay their affiliates?

      You say Bankruptcy? What is the case number? If they really are doing that it is all the reason to try to not piss people off because all it takes is for someone to go to the trustee and bring up that this money was potentially obtained fraudulently (by defrauding affiliates) and the bankruptcy will take YEARS to complete.

      What I think (based upon the numbers I see) is that someone just decided that they would make more by closing down the affiliate program and keeping rebills than they would make by accepting new joins from affiliates. This is due to the decline in sales. I don't know for sure but that is what I would suspect. Especially if there is no real BK filing.
      Q: How much do you think the site is doing monthly, or joins daily?
      A: < 5

      That should help give you some perspective. You're right, this is a big fucking money grab and the guy has so much money, he struggles to make a NATS payment. MelissaMidwest.com, that site was big 5-7 years ago. They have no $.
      Last edited by Biggy2; 10-15-2011, 09:29 AM.

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      • Biggy2
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2002
        • 1821

        #123
        Originally posted by signupdamnit
        What about the affiliates getting ripped off who are looking to feed their kids or buy presents with that money? Are they your punching bag then too? It's despicable. The going away note was at least respectful but the way it's being done, not so. Maybe you have a good excuse and there is more going on but from what I see so far you people are crooks.
        What's your reseller account and how much are you owed? Let me be your punching bag.
        Last edited by Biggy2; 10-15-2011, 09:27 AM.

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        • signupdamnit
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2007
          • 6697

          #124
          144,000 uniques a day / 1,000 = 144 sales a day.

          144 sales * $30 = $4,320 a day in new revenue.

          Plus all the old rebills (which you won't be paying affiliates for) and this is also just ONE paysite. And cross sales and other upsells?

          $10,000 a day in revenue probably isn't unheard of. At an insane 10% profit even that would be $1000 a day. And you are telling us you can't afford to pay affiliates and that there is a bankruptcy involved? Man.......

          You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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          • signupdamnit
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2007
            • 6697

            #125
            Originally posted by Biggy2
            Q: How much do you think the site is doing monthly, or joins daily?
            A: < 5

            That should help give you some perspective. You're right, this is a big fucking money grab and the guy has so much money, he struggles to make a NATS payment. MelissaMidwest.com, that site was big 5-7 years ago. They have no $.
            How the fuck is a site doing 144,000 uniques a day doing under 5 joins a month?

            You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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            • Biggy2
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 1821

              #126
              Originally posted by signupdamnit
              How the fuck is a site doing 144,000 uniques a day doing under 5 joins a month?
              its a fucking solo girl site with recycling content for the last 2-3 years, you tell me. <5 joins per day.

              you make good points, but my money says you arent even an affiliate or you are owed < $100.

              and the site isnt doing 144k a day, but id imagine theres traffic going to the FHGs which is also, an ancestral concept to the tubes we have today.
              Last edited by Biggy2; 10-15-2011, 09:33 AM.

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              • marlboroack
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jul 2010
                • 9327

                #127
                I'm sure checks will still come in the mail. They are not shit fuck heads like the others who close their doors.

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                • marlboroack
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 9327

                  #128
                  oops, double posted
                  Last edited by marlboroack; 10-15-2011, 09:46 AM.

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                  • signupdamnit
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6697

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Biggy2
                    its a fucking solo girl site with recycling content for the last 2-3 years, you tell me. <5 joins per day.

                    you make good points, but my money says you arent even an affiliate or you are owed < $100.
                    I'm not an affiliate and I stated that previously in the thread. But I am an adult affiliate and I'm sticking up for others who get screwed. I don't want to see this happen to MY sponsors.

                    If you really are getting under 5 joins a day then I feel for you and I understand. But let's do some math. 144,000 uniques and five joins means a 1:28,800 ratio. That's crazy even for an affiliate let alone a sponsor who gets type ins. And you are talking around 5 million uniques a month for volume.

                    You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                    • Biggy2
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 1821

                      #130
                      Originally posted by signupdamnit
                      144,000 uniques a day / 1,000 = 144 sales a day.

                      144 sales * $30 = $4,320 a day in new revenue.

                      Plus all the old rebills (which you won't be paying affiliates for) and this is also just ONE paysite. And cross sales and other upsells?

                      $10,000 a day in revenue probably isn't unheard of. At an insane 10% profit even that would be $1000 a day. And you are telling us you can't afford to pay affiliates and that there is a bankruptcy involved? Man.......
                      ahh my breakthrough moment, where its clear you don't know anything about this business.

                      everyone else, read my replies above, im sure to the overwhelming majority of you, you at least understand the situation. i am available via ICQ.

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                      • BlackCrayon
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 19634

                        #131
                        Originally posted by Biggy2
                        its a fucking solo girl site with recycling content for the last 2-3 years, you tell me. <5 joins per day.

                        you make good points, but my money says you arent even an affiliate or you are owed < $100.

                        and the site isnt doing 144k a day, but id imagine theres traffic going to the FHGs which is also, an ancestral concept to the tubes we have today.
                        even if it was only 40-50k/day you could put up a blank page that just says join here and you would be able to get 5 sales.

                        they made some bad investments, sucks for them. however i think its silly to expect anyone to feel sympathy because the guy has child support. so do many, many others including lots of their affiliates. of course saying all this is pointless to you, as you say you are only the messenger but hard times for the guy or not, not paying affiliates is theft.
                        you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                        • signupdamnit
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6697

                          #132
                          Originally posted by Biggy2
                          its a fucking solo girl site with recycling content for the last 2-3 years, you tell me. <5 joins per day.

                          you make good points, but my money says you arent even an affiliate or you are owed < $100.

                          and the site isnt doing 144k a day, but id imagine theres traffic going to the FHGs which is also, an ancestral concept to the tubes we have today.
                          Are you claiming <5 joins a day or a month?

                          You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                          • theking
                            Nice Kitty
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 21053

                            #133
                            It really does not make any difference if the story is bullshit or not...a decision has been made...for whatever the reason/reasons...to not pay out any money to affiliates. It certainly is not the first to do this and certainly will not be the last.

                            If bitching about it on the board makes one feel better...so be it...but I am satisfied that it will not alter the decision that has been made.
                            When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                            • signupdamnit
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6697

                              #134
                              Originally posted by Biggy2
                              ahh my breakthrough moment, where its clear you don't know anything about this business.

                              everyone else, read my replies above, im sure to the overwhelming majority of you, you at least understand the situation. i am available via ICQ.
                              Sir, you can insult me all you want but I assure you I convert far better than 1:28,800....

                              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                              • FlexxAeon
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2003
                                • 3765

                                #135
                                Originally posted by Roald
                                Collect and get 20%, over 10k missing so give it a shot I would say. Don't cross any legal borders though ;)
                                i'll see what i can do.
                                flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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