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Old 10-15-2011, 11:12 AM   #151
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how come no one ever sues the affiliate program owner in situations like this? They clearly are not out of business, so collecting the $$ shouldn't be a problem....
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fuck you woj beat me.
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:12 AM   #153
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It's 150K uniques/month, not /day. Which corresponds pretty well with their Alexa rank of about 70000, 3-5K uniques/day is about right for that kinda rank.

From program owner's perspective, I believe those figures that Biggy gave you are about right. That site is definitely doing less than 5 joins/day, most likely 2-3 new joins/day on average. Like them or not, those figures are accurate.

150K/day is almost unheard of for a paysite nowadays, let alone solo girl site. If they had that amount of traffic, no way they'd be closing shop.
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I bet those figures are extremely accurate...

Btw that's 144k (which it isn't anyway) a month, not day, and that's to the domain, which by the sounds of it includes every fhg of theirs, which obviously inflates the figure by a fair bit.

144k / 30 = 4800 per day, spread over the tour plus the FHGs. So at your example of 1:1000 even if it was all to the tour itself = 4.8 joins a day.
I had always thought that the stats on compete were per day not per month. If that is wrong then yes those figures are off (and they are also way off for my own sites according to what compete thinks, extremely low). I had not considered the FHGs either until he stated that but without really knowing the percentage which goes where it's hard to say.

If they aren't even doing 4,800 to the tour then yes it makes a lot more sense.

Still it's no excuse to keep the site up, process new joins and not at the very least pay any rebills due to webmasters. Not to mention money already owed.

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Old 10-15-2011, 11:14 AM   #154
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We would never treat our affiliates like this. Even if you owe one $1, you pay it.
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:14 AM   #155
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fhg all still up:

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Old 10-15-2011, 11:17 AM   #156
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only a retard like dvtimes would spam a dead program.
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:17 AM   #157
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:19 AM   #158
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Be sure, I understand all your rant.

For me, Melissa Midwest, was my first adult sale ever and Biggy was the first program webmaster i ever spoke to..I have big RESPECT for both

I totally get that you will pull links and rant over the missing payments

But for us, I will keep my links live on the content we have over our networks and she can keep all the sales from it all as good bye bonus... she made everyone a lot of money and always paid clockwork , I'm sure it really hard for her to leave like that.

I made awesome money from google serps and from her content. She always been a real good chit chat friend. (she confirmed on cam that i was not talking to her BF)

For me, Adam.. Melissa please consider it case close, no hard feeling.... you had a really good run on this one and you can be proud of what you achieved.

Good luck sweety, I'm sure you have a bright future. Always keep that sexy smile !

If you ever wanna sell the content you know where to find me.

thx for all those fan clips

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Old 10-15-2011, 11:20 AM   #159
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http://www.quantcast.com/melissamidwest.com

Tough to know which to believe but it does appear more likely it is between 5k - 25k per day, including galleries.
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:22 AM   #160
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Be sure, I understand all your rant.

For me, Melissa Midwest, was my first adult sale ever and Biggy was the first program webmaster i ever spoke to.. So I totally understand that you will pull links and rant over the missing payments

But for us, I will keep my links live on the content we have over our networks and she can keep all the sales from it all as good bye bonus... she made everyone a lot of money and always paid clockwork , I'm sure it really hard for her to leave like that.

I made awesome money from google serps and from her content. She always been a real good chit chat friend. (she confirmed on cam that i was not talking to her BF)

For me, Adam.. Melissa please consider it case close, no hard feeling you had a really good run and you can be proud of what you achieved

good luck sweety, i'm sure you have a bright future. Always keep that sexy smile !

If you ever wanna sell the content you know where to find me.

thx for all those fan clips

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Old 10-15-2011, 11:23 AM   #161
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:28 AM   #162
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thats cool

hope it goes well for her
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:33 AM   #163
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how come no one ever sues the affiliate program owner in situations like this? They clearly are not out of business, so collecting the $$ shouldn't be a problem....


What's so hard about going to somebody's home, knocking on the door and asking for your money?
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:50 AM   #164
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can anyone actually post a screenshot that they sent mm a single join this year?
We cant even login to our account to check our link urls (so that we can remove all the links to her site)
...so them not paying is bad, but also they are making it difficult for affiliates to remove our links to them
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It's 150K uniques/month, not /day. Which corresponds pretty well with their Alexa rank of about 70000, 3-5K uniques/day is about right for that kinda rank.
wtf? that's the most stupid shit I've heard. I have a 20k uniques/day site with alexa rank of 200k.
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surely someone can post a screenshot of their stats remote of all the massive joins they made with mm this year.
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All this it's cool with me, have my signups, hope all is well bullshit makes me sick. No wonder affiliates are constantly fucked, they bend over, take it, and smile after it happens.
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All this it's cool with me, have my signups, hope all is well bullshit makes me sick. No wonder affiliates are constantly fucked, they bend over, take it, and smile after it happens.
thanks for donating your sign-ups as i and niktamer are doing.

i think it's time for all webmasters of conscience to do so as well.
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Only in porn can you steal with impunity. I guess it must be because porn money is different from real money. It's still stealing though.
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please consider donating that. thank you.
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http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2523 Melissa and her girlfriend Sara
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Biggy is probably one of the richest guys in porn Im surprised he just doesnt pay the money owed as its probably pocket change for him. Hell if people sue him it will cost more to make them go bye bye.
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I contacted NCIS about this.
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you make good points, but my money says you arent even an affiliate or you are owed < $100.
In thinking about it this part really bothers me. Not the issue of whether I am an affiliate but the issue of whether it is over $100. What the fuck does that matter? If I shoplift an item from the store is okay as long as it is worth under $100. Stealing is stealing. If you owe an affiliate money, man up and pay them the money.

I'd have sympathy if you guys were taking down the site, stopping billing, and declaring chapter 7 bankruptcy but it looks liek you aren't. SO PAY YOUR BILLS TO YOUR AFFILIATES! If you don't you're all fucking thieves. No excuses. No ifs ands or buts about it.

And you're damn lucky you don't own me a cent.

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In thinking about it this part really bothers me. Not the issue of whether I am an affiliate but the issue of whether it is over $100. What the fuck does that matter? If I shoplift an item from the store is okay as long as it is worth under $100. Stealing is stealing. If you owe an affiliate money, man up and pay them the money.

I'd have sympathy if you guys were taking down the site and stopping billing but it looks liek you aren;t. SO PAY YOUR BILLS TO YOUR AFFILIATES!
why do you care? you are not an affiliate and not one person can come forward that they are owed money or sent them on single join this year.

who gives a fuck?
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why do you care? you are not an affiliate and not one person can come forward that they are owed money or sent them on single join this year.

who gives a fuck?
You're just a troll from what I gather so this is the last reply before you go on ye olde ignore list. But I care because I am an adult affiliate and when I first started in this industry it was common for us to support and look out for one another so that sponsors didn't fuck us. Old habits die hard and all.

It's also a little premature to say no one is owed money. It was just posted this morning.

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Man I cant believe Biggy has 2 child support payments dude needs to learn to rap it up. Especially if he is banging porn chicks. They just want his money.
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In thinking about it this part really bothers me. Not the issue of whether I am an affiliate but the issue of whether it is over $100. What the fuck does that matter? If I shoplift an item from the store is okay as long as it is worth under $100. Stealing is stealing. If you owe an affiliate money, man up and pay them the money.

I'd have sympathy if you guys were taking down the site and stopping billing but it looks liek you aren;t. SO PAY YOUR BILLS TO YOUR AFFILIATES!

no one is trivializing the $, i'm putting the situation in perspective by pointing out relevant facts to how big the situation truly is vs going off of ideologies. the pie here is very, very small. but the owner is bust and has no cash.

i dont give a fuck about your sympathy. youre an idiot. not even 2 hours ago according to your math this site was doing millions.

please kindly go fuck yourself and dont EVER take my comments out of context. dont ever put words in my mouth with your own idiot thoughts.

youre taking my comments out of context, and arguing with me, AND YOU ARENT EVEN AN AFFILIATE. once again, go fuck yourself.

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The thing is we can moan and make this thread 12 pages long.

Nothing will change.

Thats it. Chances are you will not get paid.

Oh well.
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You're just a troll from what I gather so this is the last reply before you go on ye olde ignore list. But I care because I am an adult affiliate and when I first started in this industry it was common for us to support and look out for one another so that sponsors didn't fuck us. Old habits die hard and all.

It's also a little premature to say no one is owed money. It was just posted this morning.
who are you helping by making a issue out of nothing? i would guess that most of the sales are made by a few big sologirl affilates and freeones and once they pull links the sales are gone.

the site has been dead for a few years now anyway.
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no one is trivializing the $, i'm putting the situation in perspective by pointing out relevant facts to how big the situation truly is vs going off of ideologies. the pie here is very, very small. but the owner is bust and has no cash.

i dont give a fuck about your sympathy. youre an idiot. not even 2 hours ago according to your math this site was doing millions.

please kindly go fuck yourself and dont EVER take my comments out of context. dont ever put words in my mouth with your own idiot thoughts.

youre taking my comments out of context, and arguing with me, AND YOU ARENT EVEN AN AFFILIATE. once again, go fuck yourself.
Hey man, fuck you. At least I'm not scamming anyone or making excuses.

Like I said if they were taking down the site and declaring Chapter 7 bankruptcy I wouldn't be speaking like this. But they aren't. The site is up and they are telling us they are going to keep the rebills and any money owed. Isn't the site also revshare?

So pay the damn affiliates their cut!

You're defending thieves. That's the bottom line. It'd be different if they were here apologizing and promising to pay out the rebills or any money owed ASAP. But that's not happening. We just have you here telling us to fuck off while they steal people's money.

And dude, you can't even type a complete sentence. Who are you to call anyone an idiot? At least I make my money without ripping anyone off.

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who are you helping by making a issue out of nothing? i would guess that most of the sales are made by a few big sologirl affilates and freeones and once they pull links the sales are gone.

the site has been dead for a few years now anyway.
When did stealing money from affiliates become "nothing" and a non-issue? Christ, that is ridiculous.
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When did stealing money from affiliates become "nothing" and a non-issue? Christ, that is ridiculous.
who is owed money? who actually sent one single sale to mm this year?
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Hey man, fuck you. At least I'm not scamming anyone or making excuses.

Like I said if they were taking down the site and declaring Chapter 7 bankruptcy I wouldn't be speaking like this. But they aren't. The site is up and they are telling us they are going to keep the rebills and any money owed. Isn't the site also revshare?

So pay the damn affiliates their cut!

You're defending thieves. That's the bottom line. It'd be different if they were here apologizing and promising to pay out the rebills or any money owed ASAP. But that's not happening. We just have you here telling us to fuck off while they steal people's money.
I'm not defending anyone. I am providing transparency to a shitty situation. Once again, stop putting words in my mouth. I don't think this is the right thing to do, but once again, right and wrong goes out the window as does your idelogies when people have no $.

And you sir, are still an idiot.

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you guys fail to understand the concept of "theft."

you can't steal nothing.
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who is owed money? who actually sent one single sale to mm this year?
Does it matter if it's 1 recurring payment to come next month, or a left over balance that never made the minimum payment, a thousand dollars, one dollar...1 person, 10 people, etc.?

Stealing a dollar or stealing a million dollars is still stealing. So, to say this is a non-issue or nothing, is just wrong.
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