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dazzling 10-16-2011 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 18493649)
-Source?

Im the source. You can work it out from long term study of their algorithm pattern. Their already testing in little patches here n there over time. For example, ive seen test patterns where for terms such as gay or lesbian, all adult disappears and only educational websites on those topics appear with the 1 to 100 serp range. This is the start and it will move from there. Your website will still be listed, but somewhere so far back in the serps it will never be found. When the Panda first rolled out in Febuary a lot of people were singing googles praises....or should I say those that did not get hit in the first panda were big noting themselves...ive since seen plenty of those same people get their websites wiped out in further panda updates. There has been a lot of heavy discussion on this over at webmasterworld....notice the pattern of that discussion since the first Panda in Febuary? In those days anyone who had their website wiped by google was blamed and bad mouthed as though it was their fault. The google ass lickers were out in force. But as more updates arrived and more people got slaughtered people have finally woke up to what the fuck is going on. Most of those google ass lickers have since had their websites wiped and lost their homes. Very few survive...but their days are numbered.

dazzling 10-16-2011 04:52 AM

Here is a example of how Google are slowly removing porn from their serps.

First, go to Bing and type in Lesbian....of the first 20 results I get 14 that are porn related.

Now go to Google and type in Lesbian....Of the first 20 results only 1 result which comes in at number 11 is slightly adult related....and take a very very close look at that...because its fucking Youtube...a Google owned business. This same trend is slowly happening all over the google serps. Within 2 years at current trend rates, the only adult related terms that will appear anywhere within the first 100 serps will be youtube. Now you think about that, google sending all those adult searches to youtube....thats billions in advertising revenue to google. The smart adult webmasters are already working a youtube presense, but eventually adult will need to pay to be on youtube. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to see what is happening here.

Frank21 10-16-2011 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18494466)
Here is a example of how Google are slowly removing porn from their serps.

First, go to Bing and type in Lesbian....of the first 20 results I get 14 that are porn related.

Now go to Google and type in Lesbian....Of the first 20 results only 1 result which comes in at number 11 is slightly adult related....and take a very very close look at that...because its fucking Youtube...a Google owned business. This same trend is slowly happening all over the google serps. Within 2 years at current trend rates, the only adult related terms that will appear anywhere within the first 100 serps will be youtube. Now you think about that, google sending all those adult searches to youtube....thats billions in advertising revenue to google. Eventually adult will need to pay to be on youtube. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to see what is happening here. Only a total complete fucking retard is going to believe google will keep sending them traffic for free.

Thats why we have to link to eachother :thumbsup, that made the world wide web. Because you could click thru all the link to virtual every page in the world and even google Page Rank was created for that.
Only relying on google is very easy and as you pointed out useless in the future.

ristac 10-16-2011 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18494466)
Here is a example of how Google are slowly removing porn from their serps.

First, go to Bing and type in Lesbian....of the first 20 results I get 14 that are porn related.

Now go to Google and type in Lesbian....Of the first 20 results only 1 result which comes in at number 11 is slightly adult related....and take a very very close look at that...because its fucking Youtube...a Google owned business. This same trend is slowly happening all over the google serps. Within 2 years at current trend rates, the only adult related terms that will appear anywhere within the first 100 serps will be youtube. Now you think about that, google sending all those adult searches to youtube....thats billions in advertising revenue to google. The smart adult webmasters are already working a youtube presense, but eventually adult will need to pay to be on youtube. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to see what is happening here.

Hopefully then surfers searching for porn will soon start switching to Yahoo and other search engines. Google might attempt to block porn from search results but it won't stop the surfer attempting to sniff it out.

Denny 10-16-2011 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ristac (Post 18494496)
Hopefully then surfers searching for porn will soon start switching to Yahoo and other search engines. Google might attempt to block porn from search results but it won't stop the surfer attempting to sniff it out.

:thumbsup

2intense 10-16-2011 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18493616)
you are a retard.

i agree + :2 cents:

FlexxAeon 10-16-2011 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18494466)
Here is a example of how Google are slowly removing porn from their serps.

First, go to Bing and type in Lesbian....of the first 20 results I get 14 that are porn related.

Now go to Google and type in Lesbian....Of the first 20 results only 1 result which comes in at number 11 is slightly adult related....and take a very very close look at that...because its fucking Youtube...a Google owned business. This same trend is slowly happening all over the google serps. Within 2 years at current trend rates, the only adult related terms that will appear anywhere within the first 100 serps will be youtube. Now you think about that, google sending all those adult searches to youtube....thats billions in advertising revenue to google. The smart adult webmasters are already working a youtube presense, but eventually adult will need to pay to be on youtube. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to see what is happening here.

"Lesbian" is not a term that should be owned by porn, so I understand what they may be doing there

as for the youtube part. well yeah they've been doing that for a while. but if someone is planning a "youtube presence" for porn - and youtube is a google company - you''re pretty much jumping into the same boat... "sexy lesbian wmovie" .... when i clicked it i got:

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This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy against spam, scams, and commercially deceptive content.
and to the OP.... one of my more established sites has seen a boost the last few days. haven't checked the rest yet

seeric 10-16-2011 09:00 AM

This dazzling guy is completely delusional.

Jarmusch 10-16-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18494466)
Here is a example of how Google are slowly removing porn from their serps.

First, go to Bing and type in Lesbian....of the first 20 results I get 14 that are porn related.

Now go to Google and type in Lesbian....Of the first 20 results only 1 result which comes in at number 11 is slightly adult related

Now go to Google and type in Lesbian Porn or Lesbian Sex....Of the first 20 results I get 20 that are porn related.

Those are some of the search terms anyone with half a brain would optimize their adult sites for.

pornmasta 10-16-2011 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18494466)
Here is a example of how Google are slowly removing porn from their serps.

i see tubes and torrents

18teens 10-16-2011 05:50 PM

I thought it was just me. I had one site, around since 2001, drop by 67% overnight. Several of my other sites also fell but that was my biggest drop on the 14th.

jollyperv 10-16-2011 06:39 PM

Looking back at stats, almost all longtail search traffic is gone...people on the mainstream boards are fucking pissed

porno jew 10-16-2011 06:42 PM

was just reading panda 2.5 rolled out on sept 28th.

http://blog.searchmetrics.com/us/201...sa-update-2-5/

rogueteens 10-16-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv (Post 18495524)
Looking back at stats, almost all longtail search traffic is gone...people on the mainstream boards are fucking pissed

so who's got it all?

marlboroack 10-16-2011 08:05 PM

Yeah, they wouldn't remove my girlfriends mug shot picture off Images. Told me to contact the fucking webmaster of a news paper company. Like WTF. Hey google, fuck you and suck my balls.

InfoGuy 10-18-2011 03:12 PM

It sounds like many here reporting negative results have blogs. Anyone with other types of sites losing significant Google traffic?

porno jew 10-18-2011 03:20 PM

there was panda 2.5 update a few days ago.

digitaldivas 10-18-2011 03:48 PM

my html sites grew, naturallyvoluptuous is getting 70 percent se traffic and digitaldivasonline.com is getting 67 percent se. NV is 400k U.S. alexa and DDO is 300+K alexa right now with only internal linking, no promotion per se. Just inside my network.

the css based sites took a hit. fuck it, i am going to stick with the html shell for now.

jollyperv 10-18-2011 04:11 PM

Most of my blogs sunk and were replaced by really shitty tgps

porno jew 10-18-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 18499773)
NV is 400k U.S. alexa and DDO is 300+K alexa right now


........................ :Oh crap

Caligari 10-18-2011 04:59 PM

i did not take a major hit with blogs, only lost a couple of ranks which were no longer producing $ anyways...

digitaldivas 10-18-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18499885)
........................ :Oh crap

not bad for not promoting them yet imho :2 cents: i will let you know how they are once i start really doing link trades, backlinks and perfecting targeted traffic.

dazzling 10-19-2011 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 18teens (Post 18495467)
I thought it was just me. I had one site, around since 2001, drop by 67% overnight. Several of my other sites also fell but that was my biggest drop on the 14th.

Dont worry too much at the moment about this, Matt Cutts issued a weather report on this about 2 weeks ago, things will go up and down in the serps over the next few weeks before settling down...then you can get an idea where your at. If your still having problems after that, look at your websites pathways for the fix. Best of Luck.

dazzling 10-19-2011 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 18495339)
Now go to Google and type in Lesbian Porn or Lesbian Sex....Of the first 20 results I get 20 that are porn related.

I get 18 of those results as porn for Lesbian Sex....but....the point im trying to make here is that the change has not yet taken place, there still in experimental stage, that is what im saying. There is a pattern that has been developing if people have been watching closely. I warned people of Panda 8 months before it happened and got blasted, but in the end I was right. Now, lets come back in 12 months from the date of this and see what has happened. By then im guessing that the porn ratio will be much lower or even none at all. I could be wrong, hope I am.

dazzling 10-19-2011 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18494574)
"Lesbian" is not a term that should be owned by porn, so I understand what they may be doing there

Agreed with you on that. Lesbian is a term that does not belong to porn. But if we went back 2 years ago that term was dominated by porn. I guess that is what I meant to say. So we see a turn around here on the term. Its not algo, its a manual intervention and that is interesting to note.

dazzling 10-19-2011 02:59 AM

http://www.google.com/competition/im...ch-testing.png

Now, if we have a look at this image it shows us a little about how google makes an algorithm change. It usually starts with an idea from one of their Engineers, then the idea gets implemented on a test page. From that the test page and the current serp page is sent to a group of testers. These testers are not employed by google and are all over the world and of different backgrounds, etc. If google get some positive feedback on the test page it moves to the next step of a live experiment...this is where a small percentage of the population get to see the test page. And this is what is happening with adult right now...its in this stage. 99.9999% of people are still getting the regular serps...but this very very small test group of the population are being tested on serps with little porn. If the feedback is what google is looking for, it eventually goes live, United States first. Panda is a learning machine algo...so it will taker several years. So the change to porn in the serps will take a number of years, but its already happening. There is a slow phase out..a reduction lets say.

Jarmusch 10-19-2011 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18500567)
Now, lets come back in 12 months from the date of this and see what has happened. By then im guessing that the porn ratio will be much lower or even none at all.

Right, google is on a crusade to make porn sites disappear from the serps. The adwords revenue that porn searches generate is chump change to them, so they're just gonna go ahead and ditch it.

Makes perfect sense to me.

femdomdestiny 10-19-2011 03:23 AM

google
 
Several months ago my site that was on first or second page on google, went under 500th place. Also some blogs, which means, that devastated me then and I've never recovered.

dazzling 10-19-2011 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 18500622)
Right, google is on a crusade to make porn sites disappear from the serps. The adwords revenue that porn searches generate is chump change to them, so they're just gonna go ahead and ditch it.

Makes perfect sense to me.

And that is exactly one of the reasons they will ditch porn...because the revenue from porn is peanuts compared to mainstream. So if someone types in Lesbian and porn comes up in the serps...then the advertising revenue from adsense is much much lower then if someone types in Lesbian and mainstream websites show in the serps, because those mainstream ads are often bringing in 5 to 10 times more revenue on that keyword then porn ads revenue.

Emil 10-19-2011 03:43 AM

It's pretty scary how Google can take away your income over a night. :/ Some of my sites got hit too, mostly blackhat-sites so it's no biggie but the traffic seem to come back slowly.

dazzling 10-19-2011 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 18500630)
Several months ago my site that was on first or second page on google, went under 500th place. Also some blogs, which means, that devastated me then and I've never recovered.

Do you have an exact date on when this happened? It will help explain exactly what happened.

Klen 10-19-2011 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18500638)
And that is exactly one of the reasons they will ditch porn...because the revenue from porn is peanuts compared to mainstream. So if someone types in Lesbian and porn comes up in the serps...then the advertising revenue from adsense is much much lower then if someone types in Lesbian and mainstream websites show in the serps, because those mainstream ads are often bringing in 5 to 10 times more revenue on that keyword then porn ads revenue.

Ah lol,till tube sites gone from index it is just bullshit theory.And this is bullshit theory since you could apply same to pirate websites which killing income of mainstream industry too yet they still rank pretty good and google dont give a shit about it.

martinsc 10-19-2011 04:07 AM

no big changes, a few sites up a bit, some down a bit...

roller coaster up and down as usual

porno jew 10-19-2011 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18500638)
And that is exactly one of the reasons they will ditch porn...because the revenue from porn is peanuts compared to mainstream. So if someone types in Lesbian and porn comes up in the serps...then the advertising revenue from adsense is much much lower then if someone types in Lesbian and mainstream websites show in the serps, because those mainstream ads are often bringing in 5 to 10 times more revenue on that keyword then porn ads revenue.

stop spreading your bullshit you retard.

signupdamnit 10-19-2011 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil (Post 18500639)
It's pretty scary how Google can take away your income over a night. :/ Some of my sites got hit too, mostly blackhat-sites so it's no biggie but the traffic seem to come back slowly.

It is scary but that's why you don't want to rely on Google too much. If Google provides more than about 25% of your traffic (or sales) to a site it's a disaster waiting to happen.

porno jew 10-19-2011 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 18500630)
Several months ago my site that was on first or second page on google, went under 500th place. Also some blogs, which means, that devastated me then and I've never recovered.

welcome to panda. just convert your sites to tubes. seriously.

dazzling 10-19-2011 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18495530)
was just reading panda 2.5 rolled out on sept 28th.

http://blog.searchmetrics.com/us/201...sa-update-2-5/


The only fucking retard here is you., That panda update took place three weeks ago and yet you only just noticed it now...talk about fuckin stupid. You are totally fucking stupid and a brain dead asshole. Your even trying to give others advice to others on something you did not know about, let alone even come close to understanding. Your slut mother must have been whoring out to a whacked out junkie to pop out a fuckwit like you.

porno jew 10-19-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18501036)
The only fucking retard here is you., That panda update took place three weeks ago and yet you only just noticed it now...talk about fuckin stupid. You are totally fucking stupid and a brain dead asshole. Your even trying to give others advice to others on something you did not know about, let alone even come close to understanding. Your slut mother must have been whoring out to a whacked out junkie to pop out a fuckwit like you.

everything you post is completely wrong. stop misinforming people.

dazzling 10-19-2011 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18501047)
everything you post is completely wrong. stop misinforming people.

If you feel my theory is wrong thats fine, then debate it, put forward some logical and mathematical reasons why. Im happy to discuss things in a civil way. There are a lot of people who have been hurt by panda, they come here to discuss the algorithm, not listen to people post abuse such as what you were doing.

You feel you understand Panda, ok, lets have a closer look here....My opinion is that initial trigger for Panda is based on the percentage of actual click-backs returning to Google, for phase A, on the target website of at least X size, with Y amount of content on target page [ content sub variables T, W] , and on a page level, the page having properties of P, Q, l in some combination.

Your expert opinion please?

DaddyHalbucks 10-19-2011 08:37 AM

It's why Google has no role in my business plan.


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