Originally Posted by Forest (Post 18492212)

60% for content?

:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18492551)

That's what I was thinking when I read it, thought he better have some content that knocks you out of your shoes, and frankly. It's nice, but not that nice.

Originally Posted by hennessy (Post 18492378)

My network continues to grow via my mailing list (2200+ photographers) and other venues. While of course most of them will say anything, I do believe a nice chunk will join.

Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal (Post 18492506)

TRAFFIC (even shit traffic) is money;
time is money;
money is power;

traffic = time = money = power.

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 18492543)

Very cute girl .... but I have to ask, Do her elbows bend??? :eek2

http://www.jaykilgore.com/wp-content..._4071-copy.jpg
http://www.jaykilgore.com/wp-content..._4073-copy.jpg

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 18492993)

2200 email is a "vast" network?

at todays ratios of 1;500 you Might get 4 joins out of that traffic that will last an avg of 3 months.

so let do the math

assuming your 60/40 split is on the net of the program you will be making a killing!

and sorry to piss on your idea man (its old school i know) but anyone who will partner with you on a 60/40 split will most likely not be able to generate the volume of joins you need to achieve your goal of using you % to fund all your travels and model costs for future content. and the reason i say this is that most people who can afford to buy the content will do just that. its the people who dont or cant pay the upfront cost of the content who will jump at this

think about this. if someone could do this on your split dont you think the best shooters in the biz would be doing this already? and No offense while I like your work its not the best in the business.

Originally Posted by hennessy (Post 18493076)

If 1k signups and rebills a month. This isn't porn emails, this is professional photographers who want to learn from me.

Originally Posted by hennessy (Post 18492332)

Winner, winner chicken dinner!

All the partner would be doing is providing the design, ccbill visa and updating the site. I'm the one shooting and editing all the content.

I have more content on reserve than most people shoot in 5 years.

Originally Posted by hennessy (Post 18492378)

I'm not missing traffic at all. It's not my specialty.

Let me explain how my thinking works;

I say that I want to partner up. I do the difficult work of having models come in at a rate most people wish they could. I have and often shoot four new faces a day, more on the weekend.

A company/webmaster that has sites and traffic sees my post and thinks; "hmm, I can design a site and throw traffic at it and all I need to do is make sure this guy has content and I make 40% for feeding it to my already existing network. I can do that"

Then that webby contacts me and we agree and all the know it alls will still post in this thread long after I've moved on.

It's how I see it working. If that rubbed some of you the wrong way, sorry, this deal isn't for you but I'll tell you what, I've gotten quite a few hits from webbies that are interested. If this isn't for you, I understand, but there's a few who see what I'm saying.

And one last thing; Once the site is up and going, I have a pretty vast little traffic network that I will send to the site as well. My network continues to grow via my mailing list (2200+ photographers) and other venues. While of course most of them will say anything, I do believe a nice chunk will join.

Originally Posted by hennessy (Post 18491874)

Hey guys,

I'm looking for a webby. I've tried it and I suck at it lol. I have a ton of content, photo and video and it's just all collecting dust. Here's a bit about me if yo don't know:

I'm a photographer. I have images published in roughly 22 nationally distributed magazines and ezines. I shoot about 100 chicks a year give or take.

For who ever wants to partner with me, I have some stipulations;

60/40 splt, with my taking the 60
I will edit photos and video and upload
You should have an active program with good rep (If I want a dead program, I can start my own)
You have to be a numbers based person; meaning you will be able to give me a 100% launch date, say something and mean it/follow through.
I will need access to the ccbill
I will need access to the members area
You will design the site as well as host it and ccbill.
We will start the site with about 40+ models with about 18k photos. These are all my old photos from 2009. Once they are all uploaded, I will start with 2010 and eventually 2011. My goal is to use revenue from the site, to travel to other states to get something different than the looks I already have.

The biggest thing I'm looking for is honesty and communication. As long as we communicate and are on the up and up, it'll be a great working relationship.

http://www.jaykilgore.com/wp-content...09/audrey3.jpg
http://www.jaykilgore.com/wp-content..._0003-copy.jpg
http://www.jaykilgore.com/wp-content..._4073-copy.jpg
http://www.jaykilgore.com/wp-content...9/melissa1.jpg
http://www.jaykilgore.com/wp-content..._4365-copy.jpg

If interested, you can hit me up via icq 136930790 or pm me.

Cheers
Jay

Originally Posted by hennessy (Post 18493513)

I found a webby so thanks everyone!
Cheers!

Originally Posted by hennessy (Post 18493076)

Again, we're beating a dead horse.

I don't pay models so that's not a big deal. If the site doesn't generate a few hundred bucks to pay for a plane ticket and hotel, then yes, it's a bust l would NEVER sell all my content, in fact, I had a clown try and try and try and try to talk me into doing a shopping cart per model, turned that idea down.

If it doesn't work for you, totally cool! I have about 19 people that have contacted me and interested, I will stick with them. As far as my "vast" email, 2200 may not be vast, but what I meant was these guys love my work and will join. If 1k signups and rebills a month. This isn't porn emails, this is professional photographers who want to learn from me.

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 18493816)

Make sure to do your research on whoever it is. Plenty around here burning people over and over again .....

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 18493844)

If you feel like licensing some of your more alt-looking work, please drop me an email at spookycash [at] gothicsluts.com I'd only be interested in select stuff and, if your site happens, I'm fine making a deal where you can still use it for that.

Originally Posted by hennessy (Post 18493076)

I don't pay models so that's not a big deal.

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 18493981)

This bit caught my eye. Your models work for nothing? What do they get out it?

Originally Posted by hennessy (Post 18493967)

To be honest, I have lots of people, heavily tatted, goth/alt that wants free shoots but I turn them down cause it's not my forte-no disrespect. But now that I know someone that's interested, I can review my contacts and possibly put something together!

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 18494111)

How much are they suppose to pay their affiliates out of that 40%? you know the ppl that provide the source that will bring you the income ...

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 18494203)

The OP probably means a 60/40 split of net profits.

... at least I hope he does!

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 18493191)

To the OP, make a site yourself. Don't do a partnership. You'll only regret it later. :2 cents: