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georgeyw 10-12-2011 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18487373)
If $38,750 is going to make or break you, then you probably need to re-examine your financial position. But really it boils down to the risk/reward. Sue, and maybe you win, maybe you lose -- it still costs you money. You won't get a "clean" $38,750 in any case. Even with treble damages, it's only $116,250. After tax, figure $80,000 or so. $30,000 in attorney fees, you MIGHT clear $50,000 .... and that's a BIG if that you'd be granted the treble damages (although with the libel he's added about head injuries, medication, etc, it isn't that far fetched). So, worst case, you clear $10,000. Best case, you clear $50,000. If that's worth YEARS of litigation, travel, and headaches to you ... then I'm sorry to hear that.

And remember: you might lose, and be OUT even MORE money.

"Worth it" suits begin in the six-figure range. I didn't go after Playboy for $60,000 slam-dunk open-and-shut, so I'm certainly not going after GTS for $38,750. Five-figure suits are hard to even find attorneys willing to pursue them. Write it off as bad debt on your taxes and move on. Speaking of taxes, I estimated my taxes for that year, and included the money GTS was supposed to pay, so I guess I got hurt twice on that money.

Now, if you're saying $38k is sitting on the sidewalk, I'd tell you that anyone would bend over and pick it up .. that's common sense. But people toss around "I'LL SUE YOU" over $200 on GFY; it's just ridiculous sometimes.

:2 cents: :2 cents:
What I read above is this.

"GTS Mark does not ever have to pay me because I will do nothing."

Put your ego back in the box and get your money - boasting about who has ripped you off and you not doing anything about it is pretty damn intelligent.

edgeprod 10-12-2011 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18487410)
"GTS Mark does not ever have to pay me because I will do nothing."
Basically, that's what happened, yes. I'd have been happy to settle it out for some peanut-like amount, but with what he said, I might want to just cost him 5x the business instead. I'm resourceful.

I think you missed the entire point of my post, though ... it's not about what's owed, it's about what you can collect. Remember, too: even if you win in court, you still have to then go to the mats to collect the money.

L-Pink 10-12-2011 07:47 PM
I've gone into lawsuits knowing that even if everything goes my way I'll lose money and time. So what. Step up for what you believe in and make a point. Otherwise you are just a mark.

Seriously, put his dick in the dirt if he fucked you.

.

georgeyw 10-12-2011 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18487423)
Basically, that's what happened, yes. I'd have been happy to settle it out for some peanut-like amount, but with what he said, I might want to just cost him 5x the business instead. I'm resourceful.

I think you missed the entire point of my post, though ... it's not about what's owed, it's about what you can collect. Remember, too: even if you win in court, you still have to then go to the mats to collect the money.
:1orglaugh There you go - I wish you good luck with that :thumbsup

FreeHugeMovies 10-12-2011 09:06 PM
Where is Devin when you need him?

jimmy-3-way 10-12-2011 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18487373)
If $38,750 is going to make or break you, then you probably need to re-examine your financial position.:2 cents: :2 cents:
Quoted for truth.

C'mon people, wise the fuck up.

edgeprod 10-12-2011 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies (Post 18487553)
Where is Devin when you need him?
On ICQ. :winkwink:

Spunky 10-12-2011 10:41 PM
Can't we all just get along? Maybe a hot sauna is required to exchange the beef

edgeprod 10-13-2011 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 18487641)
Can't we all just get along? Maybe a hot sauna is required to exchange the beef
I already got fucked once .. you want me to get fucked again? :1orglaugh

Kenny B! 10-13-2011 09:46 AM
I see why you won't go to court over that amount, I've been taken a few times for $5k or less and really there isn't much recourse other than making it public and letting other know about your experience.

Court costs are high, and even if it's a small claims amount you still have to spend on travel costs. So bringing it to the court of public opinion is the cheapest and most effective way of getting back some of your cash.

I don't know the story other than what I've read here, but for someone to say they aren't paying because the code or job wasn't good then you should have been told that right away and corrected it, otherwise it's just a bs excuse to screw you on payments owed.

Hope you get paid man. I'm trying to get paid from a company that is very active here, sadly I just want my deposit back on a job that they couldn't complete and have been chasing them for months. Even the threat of going to the boards doesn't seem to matter, imagine if their hosting clients found out they don't have any reserves if something goes wrong, yet they are still dragging their asses to pay me. And I'm owed about 10% of what you were fucked for.

SmokeyTheBear 10-13-2011 09:55 AM
50 threads

devilspost 10-13-2011 09:59 AM
http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/104906-drama.jpg

_Richard_ 10-13-2011 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18484366)
A bit more than $30k including missed pay and missed bonuses (for projects delivered), but I'll settle for $10k at this point to put it behind us. I'm nice like that.
why the 4 year wait?

edgeprod 10-13-2011 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 18488622)
I don't know the story other than what I've read here, but for someone to say they aren't paying because the code or job wasn't good then you should have been told that right away and corrected it, otherwise it's just a bs excuse to screw you on payments owed.
That seems to be the case, if I had to guess. I've never heard any of these shenanigans prior to this. Very fishy, especially in light of all of the praise at the time.


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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18488665)
why the 4 year wait?
He cried poor at the time, and cried it again at every interval since. I've been promised that he'd "catch up" for years now. It was more of an off-handed jab than anything else, but since Mark chose to melt down over it, it turned into something more serious.

iMind 10-13-2011 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by devilspost (Post 18488653)
:1orglaugh

campimp 10-13-2011 05:55 PM
http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/.../homer-doh.png

edgeprod 10-13-2011 07:13 PM
Homer about sums it up.

Kenny B! 10-14-2011 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by campimp (Post 18489815)
Only he's saying Dough instead of D'oh!

edgeprod 10-14-2011 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 18491149)
Only he's saying Dough instead of D'oh!
Sounds delicious.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 10-14-2011 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18484292)
Hahahaha, that's hilarious. Any update on paying me that old money GTS owes me from way-back-when?
oh shit! :1orglaugh

Ayla_SquareTurtle 10-14-2011 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 18485784)
Hmmm... this Irish Confessional Box joke must be pretty funny as the thread keeps getting bumped back up for the past day or two... <click> oh... I see.
:1orglaugh

That's exactly why I finally clicked it.

edgeprod 10-18-2011 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 18491957)
:1orglaugh

That's exactly why I finally clicked it.
I click it to laugh more, personally.

CaptainHowdy 10-18-2011 02:28 PM
An irish confessional box walks into an old money dispute ...

edgeprod 10-19-2011 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 18499608)
An irish confessional box walks into an old money dispute ...
Sadly, the only time it became a "dispute" is when I actually tried to get paid.

lazycash 10-19-2011 09:36 AM
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Edgeprod 6:13 PM Back then, you told me it'd take a few months. After a few years, and 6-month-interval reminders, you haven't so much as farted a quarter in my direction. Does it shock you thank I'd want to eventually be paid?

Mark -GTS (DH) 6:13 PM you're not getting paid now
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:14 PM i can tell you that with 100% certainty
Lol, with that statement Mark acknowledges that he does indeed owe you. Of course he then resorts to the old gfy stupid logic of, "Well, I was going to pay you, but since you called me out on the boards and embarrassed me, I no longer feel I should have to pay you."

Interesting how there seems to be a long line of people who have done work for Mark or been directly employed by him who leave very disgruntled usually with payout issues. If it was just 1 then I could see it being a misunderstanding, but after a half a dozen it becomes quite clear how Mark operates and what type of person he is.

lazycash 10-19-2011 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 18485784)
Hmmm... this Irish Confessional Box joke must be pretty funny as the thread keeps getting bumped back up for the past day or two... <click> oh... I see.
Yep, its funny alright.

iMind 10-19-2011 08:51 PM
http://ist1-3.filesor.com/pimpandhos...uges%20GIF.gif

edgeprod 10-20-2011 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18501385)
Lol, with that statement Mark acknowledges that he does indeed owe you. Of course he then resorts to the old gfy stupid logic of, "Well, I was going to pay you, but since you called me out on the boards and embarrassed me, I no longer feel I should have to pay you."
Typical "bro club" bullshit, as usual. What can ya do?


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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18501385)
Interesting how there seems to be a long line of people who have done work for Mark or been directly employed by him who leave very disgruntled usually with payout issues. If it was just 1 then I could see it being a misunderstanding, but after a half a dozen it becomes quite clear how Mark operates and what type of person he is.
Pretty much how he seems to operate. Maybe this topic DOES need its own thread with appropriate title after all.

georgeyw 10-20-2011 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18504276)
Typical "bro club" bullshit, as usual. What can ya do?




Pretty much how he seems to operate. Maybe this topic DOES need its own thread with appropriate title after all.
I have a question.

How much wood would a woodchuck, chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

oh and bump

edgeprod 10-21-2011 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18505214)
I have a question.

How much wood would a woodchuck, chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

oh and bump
As much wood as a woodchuck can afford after being cheated out of his paycheck. :1orglaugh

Kenny B! 10-21-2011 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18506324)
As much wood as a woodchuck can afford after being cheated out of his paycheck. :1orglaugh
You're one funny guy :1orglaugh

edgeprod 10-21-2011 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 18506553)
You're one funny guy :1orglaugh
I try, haha.

georgeyw 10-21-2011 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18506324)
As much wood as a woodchuck can afford after being cheated out of his paycheck. :1orglaugh
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Well done :thumbsup

edgeprod 10-24-2011 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18507655)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Well done :thumbsup
Thank you, sir! :thumbsup

machinegunkelly 10-25-2011 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18506324)
As much wood as a woodchuck can afford after being cheated out of his paycheck. :1orglaugh
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

edgeprod 10-26-2011 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly (Post 18514760)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Speaking of woodchucks cheated ... :1orglaugh

lazycash 10-26-2011 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18504276)

Pretty much how he seems to operate. Maybe this topic DOES need its own thread with appropriate title after all.
I think it does need its own thread, Mark got off too easy in this one as he disappeared and hoped this thread would also.

edgeprod 10-26-2011 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18516647)
I think it does need its own thread, Mark got off too easy in this one as he disappeared and hoped this thread would also.
Sounds like a plan, then. I'll get all of the supporting materials together, too.

Kenny B! 10-26-2011 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18516689)
Sounds like a plan, then. I'll get all of the supporting materials together, too.
But you need to have an Irish joke in the new thread :thumbsup

edgeprod 10-26-2011 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 18516736)
But you need to have an Irish joke in the new thread :thumbsup
Is Mark Irish? That'll suffice.


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