Explanation about Payoneer and statement from Payoneer President and Founder - GoFuckYourself.com

Talia_Payoneer · 10-09-2011, 09:02 AM

Hi everyone,

Now that we've been present on the board for a few months, we wanted to let you know a bit more about Payoneer. While a lot of people talk about us, we are clearly newer to the adult scene than our mainstream verticals (just over a year), so we wanted to let you know who we are.

The following is a note from our president and founder:

Hello GFYers,

I am Yuval Tal, President and Founder of Payoneer. In light of recent malicious comments posted on these boards, I wanted to introduce myself and let you know about Payoneer. First and foremost, in its almost 7 years in business, Payoneer has never been investigated, subpoenaed, fined in any way, or received any type of warning from any US or international law agency, and works closely with international authorities to fight fraud and illegal activities.

Founded in 2005 and currently processing over $1 billion in payouts per year, Payoneer is licensed in the United States to service businesses that cover all aspects of ecommerce other than gambling. We have raised $17 million from venture capital companies and work closely with several banks. We serve a variety of industries including freelancers, affiliates, and travel, and for the past year or so, adult. With over 130 employees, most of whom come from the finance industry and are well trained in the financial world, we comply with all relevant laws, American and international, and also have research and development offices in Tel Aviv.

We believe in fair trade and competition: We appreciate Paxum's business model and strongly believe that it's important that people and companies have more than one payment option.

As most of you already know, we appreciate any and all feedback (that's what Talia is here for and why her email address is clearly posted in her signature). We DO listen to what you request - 2 of the recent additions to our service, P2P and bank transfers all over the world - are direct results of feedback that we have read here on GFY and on other forums (P2P is mostly from GFY).

Please continue to contact us when needed - I am very happy to hear that so many have been emailing our community team (Talia and Nissim) for the additional help that you may need offline, and hope you continue to do so in the future.

We look forward to continuing to provide you with the best services possible to meet the needs of all of our customers.

Have a great week.

Yuval Tal

Klen · 10-09-2011, 09:06 AM

Huh title kind a sounded like you closing payoneer lol

Talia_Payoneer · 10-09-2011, 09:08 AM

Ooops! Sorry, definitely not closing :-)

I can't edit the title, it won't let me...

porn500 · 10-09-2011, 09:10 AM

...he never introduced himself.. or did I miss something?

2intense · 10-09-2011, 09:11 AM

bump for payoneer

Talia_Payoneer · 10-09-2011, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by porn500

...he never introduced himself.. or did I miss something?

That's my fault, I must have omitted the line. Either way, he did sign his name so you know who it is. I will try to add it in if I can still edit it.

porn500 · 10-09-2011, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam

That's my fault, I must have omitted the line. Either way, he did sign his name so you know who it is. I will try to add it in if I can still edit it.

bump for this... I'm in the middle of choosing Paxum or Payoneer... all info is appreciated!

CaptainHowdy · 10-09-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Huh title kind a sounded like you closing payoneer lol

Slippages are Talia's "thing" on GFY

...

adultchatpay · 10-09-2011, 09:29 AM

Indeed, multiple payment option is needed. Hope Payoneer and the like stays serving us all. Whether you like it or not.

Talia_Payoneer · 10-09-2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Slippages are Talia's "thing" on GFY

...

Hey! This is only recent! You'd forgive me if you knew the reason. Since I copied and pasted his message, I must have missed that part, but the intro isn't THAT important, if only because it does say who he is and what his title is anyway.

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Originally Posted by porn500

bump for this... I'm in the middle of choosing Paxum or Payoneer... all info is appreciated!

Well, I'd be happy to provide you with any information you'd like. We tried to keep it as short as possible here, but feel free to ask any questions.

BIGTYMER · 10-09-2011, 09:43 AM

I have used payoneer for a long time now and have nothing but good things to say about them.

CaptainHowdy · 10-09-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam

Hey! This is only recent! You'd forgive me if you knew the reason. Since I copied and pasted his message, I must have missed that part, but the intro isn't THAT important, if only because it does say who he is and what his title is anyway.

greg80 · 10-09-2011, 09:51 AM

I love payoneer

cherrylula · 10-09-2011, 09:53 AM

Nice, I have been meaning to sign up.

What are the fees?

TwinCities · 10-09-2011, 10:05 AM

My number one rule is to use the least amount of adult service providers that I can. I know it is a sad unfortunate statement but having been around for quite a while and watching what has happened with various hosting companies and payment processors it's simply how I feel. I use Payoneer. I use them because they are a venture backed company that came into adult as merely an afterthought and they have no aspirations of making movies that I know of. lol . Adult is not their core business. This has allowed them to build a business not based on the "adult" fantasy of how business is done, but instead how real-world business is done.

You can read more about them here: http://techcrunch.com/search/Payoneer

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 10:17 AM

Can you shed some light on rumours surrounding your connection with israeli mossad hitmen ?

Israeli hitmen using payoneer cards and forged identities were sent to murder an arab. Was there some cooperation involved here or is it pure coincidence your former involvement in mossad and the fact these hitmen used payoneer and were also involved in mossad ? There was some speculation that these hitmen used stolen payoneer identities to carry out the murder . What is your stance on this ?

MaDalton · 10-09-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Can you shed some light on rumours surrounding your connection with israeli mossad hitmen ?

Israeli hitmen using payoneer cards and forged identities were sent to murder an arab. Was there some cooperation involved here or is it pure coincidence your former involvement in mossad and the fact these hitmen used payoneer and were also involved in mossad ? There was some speculation that these hitmen used stolen payoneer identities to carry out the murder . What is your stance on this ?

gfyleaks....

OneHungLo · 10-09-2011, 10:37 AM

Yuval also served as vice president of business development for RADWARE (NASDAQ: RDWR) and in an elite combat unit of the Israel Defense Forces.

Violetta · 10-09-2011, 10:41 AM

well, I guess an org like Mossad could use any kind of prepaid card they wanted, its kind of weak argument against payoneer lol

Btw in Spain Payoneer is by far the most common prepaid card among webmasters. In general I think that after the epass fiasco, sponsors and webmasters should have all options and dont put again all eggs in one basket....

seeandsee · 10-09-2011, 10:43 AM

its nice for payoneer users to have people like you post here

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Luc Retard

well, I guess an org like Mossad could use any kind of prepaid card they wanted, its kind of weak argument against payoneer lol

the ceo is connected to israeli military, the venture firms that own payoneer are all connected to mossad or cia related firms, their isp hosts several israeli military or intelligence sites.

i think the question is a valid question considering these facts

cherrylula · 10-09-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Can you shed some light on rumours surrounding your connection with israeli mossad hitmen ?

Israeli hitmen using payoneer cards and forged identities were sent to murder an arab. Was there some cooperation involved here or is it pure coincidence your former involvement in mossad and the fact these hitmen used payoneer and were also involved in mossad ? There was some speculation that these hitmen used stolen payoneer identities to carry out the murder . What is your stance on this ?

This can't be a serious post....

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 10:50 AM

Violetta · 10-09-2011, 10:51 AM

Smokey, I never say its not valid question. Just said that sometimes we tend to see shadows everywhere. Almost all israeli tech companies start from military,its very common there that people that meet/work together in the tech military form afterwards companies. I just think that an org like mossad would prefer something more undercover if they wanted to use prepaid cards than a very very known israeli company...

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

This can't be a serious post....

"Several of the team members used the same type of card issued through MetaBank in Iowa. The payroll-style cards were issued by the U.S.-based company Payoneer, whose CEO, Yuval Tal, is an Israeli-American businessman and a former Israeli Special Forces commando."

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...assassination/

porno jew · 10-09-2011, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Can you shed some light on rumours surrounding your connection with israeli mossad hitmen ?

Israeli hitmen using payoneer cards and forged identities were sent to murder an arab. Was there some cooperation involved here or is it pure coincidence your former involvement in mossad and the fact these hitmen used payoneer and were also involved in mossad ? There was some speculation that these hitmen used stolen payoneer identities to carry out the murder . What is your stance on this ?

so by that logic the the hotels they stayed at, the airlines they used, the cell phones they used were all mossad controlled because they were used during the operation as well?

use your brain.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Luc Retard

Smokey, I never say its not valid question. Just said that sometimes we tend to see shadows everywhere. Almost all israeli tech companies start from military,its very common there that people that meet/work together in the tech military form afterwards companies. I just think that an org like mossad would prefer something more undercover if they wanted to use prepaid cards than a very very known israeli company...

my bet would be the company was formed to fund mossad and cia related activities under the radar using adult webmasters as "filler" but hey maybe being on gfy for so long i am succumbing to tinfoil hat paranoia

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

so by that logic the the hotels they stayed at, the airlines they used, the cell phones they used were all mossad controlled because they were used during the operation as well?

use your brain.

24 of the suspects had payoneer cards, that seems a bit coincidental doesn't it ? They obviously picked payoneer as a way to fund the agents activities, why pick payoneer unless you had an "in" with them.. ? wouldn't you pick a company with less ties unless the company helped you in some way ?

candyflip · 10-09-2011, 11:23 AM

Smokey...you know that they will never address that with any amount of truth. Even if true, they will lie lie lie about it.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 11:24 AM

The Central Bank, said Lt Gen Dahi, has enquired with the "issuers of the cards" about the source of the funds but has not had any response from them so far.
Notices
"If we do not get a convincing response from them, I will request a red notice and a black notice for the institutions, as well as a UAE ban on the use of cards issued by them," he said.
An Interpol red notice requests the arrest of wanted persons with a view to extradition while a black notice seeks information on unidentified bodies.
A Central Bank source familiar with the investigation confirmed to Gulf News that the bank is in contact with "the issuers of the cards" to determine the identities of the cardholders and the sources of their funds

According to information released by Dubai Police, some of the cards used by the suspects were prepaid Meta Bank MasterCards, which are issued by Payoneer, a US based company that specialises in prepaid debit cards targeted to internet shoppers.
The cards function like credit cards but can be used as an alternative in that they are topped up with funds beforehand.
The Payoneer connection unveils a network of links to Israel, specifically its intelligence community.
Its CEO is Yuval Tal, an Israeli citizen who, according to media reports, described himself as a former Israeli special forces commando in a 2006 Fox News interview.

However, a person who said he met Tal a couple of times but did not want to be named told Gulf News that "there is no question in my mind that Yuval has contacts with [Israel's spy agency] Mossad".
He recalled a conversation Tal had with attendees of a Jewish charity event in New York, where he spoke of his connections with Mossad.

LatinaCrazy · 10-09-2011, 11:26 AM

We have been using Payoneer since the closing of epassporte and while we have been happy with them they do not fullfill our needs.

I took us one year for someone to respond to our request to be a partner!

While they now have to P2P payments the limits are horrible..

The card limit is very low for our needs as well.

We do about 40k per month in payouts with some people receiving 10k at a time.

I takes us 10 days to transfer money to them. If we withdraw at an atm it takes us 10 days to withdraw the funds.

I realize that many people do not need this type of service but many do as well. There seems to be no way to be upgraded to higher levels.

What really sucks is customer service... When we where with Epassporte we had our account rep and he was great,, We even had his personal cel number, not that we ever used it except to wish him happy birthday.

Ok had my rant for today now I will GFM.

Dont throw stones at Mosad, they have a tendency to eat them>

porno jew · 10-09-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

24 of the suspects had payoneer cards, that seems a bit coincidental doesn't it ? They obviously picked payoneer as a way to fund the agents activities, why pick payoneer unless you had an "in" with them.. ? wouldn't you pick a company with less ties unless the company helped you in some way ?

uh because they are the biggest and most well know, or maybe even the only prepaid service in israel?

why did they pick the cell phone provider they used as well? mossad?

blackmonsters · 10-09-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by porn500

...he never introduced himself.. or did I miss something?

Quote:

Hello GFYers,

I am Yuval Tal, President and Founder of Payoneer. In light of recent malicious comments posted on these boards, I wanted to introduce myself and let you know about Payoneer. First and foremost, in its almost 7 years in business, Payoneer has never been investigated, subpoenaed, fined in any way, or received any type of warning from any US or international law agency, and works closely with international authorities to fight fraud and illegal activities.

Maybe that was his introduction.

porno jew · 10-09-2011, 11:35 AM

if they were connected to mossad why would they use a service that could be exposed by any internet muckracker? why not go with some other service?

what advantage would using payoneer over other services have?

i'm sure mossad was able to buy and any type of cards from anywhere?

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LatinaCrazy

Dont throw stones at Mosad, they have a tendency to eat them>

I wasn't throwing stones.. I think it was a clever idea to be honest, but a tad worried in hindisght of sending them ( payoneer ) my passport. The mossad agents all had forged passports and payoneer cards. I was more concerned with, did they use payoneer passports to commit the murder or did they use forged passports to get payoneer cards ? when epassporte first started asking for passports my first question was , who has access to these passports ? if these are being sent overseas , you open the pandoras box of problems.. like for example a terrorist org gaining access to the passports and using them to commit acts of terror.

cherrylula · 10-09-2011, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

"Several of the team members used the same type of card issued through MetaBank in Iowa. The payroll-style cards were issued by the U.S.-based company Payoneer, whose CEO, Yuval Tal, is an Israeli-American businessman and a former Israeli Special Forces commando."

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...assassination/

Terrorists all use visa and mastercard too, so you gonna boycott everyone?

cherrylula · 10-09-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

my bet would be the company was formed to fund mossad and cia related activities under the radar using adult webmasters as "filler" but hey maybe being on gfy for so long i am succumbing to tinfoil hat paranoia

Wow you've totally figured out the adult industry, maybe get out while you can before they get ya?

jk, I love conspiracy theories, mostly laughing, please continue. Really.

blofer80 · 10-09-2011, 11:44 AM

SmokeyTheBear - You have Anti Israeli posts for years on GFY. Get a life and stop flooding the thread. Give a little respect for a huge company posts here on gfy , you can say whatever you want in any thread but dont make 95% of this thread posts related to your shit.

CyberHustler · 10-09-2011, 11:46 AM

You have a pretty neck... lol

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

if they were connected to mossad why would they use a service that could be exposed by any internet muckracker? why not go with some other service?

well its clear the mossad agents did use payoneer , so why use them ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

i'm sure mossad was able to buy and any type of cards from anywhere?

exactly , so why use a company so close to home with close ties to israeli military ? i would think the only reason would be if the company helped you in some way.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blofer80

SmokeyTheBear - You have Anti Israeli posts for years on GFY. Get a life and stop flooding the thread. Give a little respect for a huge company posts here on gfy , you can say whatever you want in any thread but dont make 95% of this thread posts related to your shit.

this is a forum , you ask questions , i respond..

I am not anti-israel , i am anti-stupidity, it just so happens israel is discussed often and i point out stupidity.

For the record i have been a payoneer user for years , and have always been happy with my service.. here is my issue..

The thread topic contains the following quote from Yuval

"Payoneer has never been investigated, subpoenaed, fined in any way, or received any type of warning from any US or international law agency, and works closely with international authorities to fight fraud and illegal activities"

it is quite clear the dubai police investigating payoneers role warned them their cards would be blacklisted in UAE if they did not cooperate with the investigation. This is quite contrary to what Yuval said at the start of this thread.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

Terrorists all use visa and mastercard too, so you gonna boycott everyone?

i never suggested boycotting anyone ? like i said , i think it was quite clever , but i did have some issues ( see above ) with Yuval's statement.

candyflip · 10-09-2011, 11:56 AM

Question Anything Isreali = Anti-Semite

Love that logic.

porno jew · 10-09-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

well its clear the mossad agents did use payoneer , so why use them ?

exactly , so why use a company so close to home with close ties to israeli military ? i would think the only reason would be if the company helped you in some way.

why did they stay at the hotels they did? why did they use a certain cell phone provider? eat at certain eateries? rent certain cars? airlines? on and on?

and since there is compulsory military service of course everyone is connected to the israel military is some way. this is too obvious it should not have to be stated.

cherrylula · 10-09-2011, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

Question Anything Isreali = Anti-Semite

Love that logic.

This thread is seriously taking off now!

candyflip · 10-09-2011, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

This thread is seriously taking off now!

Tell your hubby to drop in

cherrylula · 10-09-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Tell your hubby to drop in

LOL, like beating a dead horse. Nah

He is way too busy these days for much chicanery.

Sid70 · 10-09-2011, 12:08 PM

Great to know!

TheSquealer · 10-09-2011, 12:10 PM

Smokey is trying to get his house strafed by Apache's and then bulldozed.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-09-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

why did they stay at the hotels they did? why did they use a certain cell phone provider? eat at certain eateries? rent certain cars? airlines? on and on?

i have no idea , i didn't ask those questions , neither did the UAE authorities investigating the murder, but they did warn payoneer specifically , they didn't warn hotels or airlines or cell phone providers..

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

and since there is compulsory military service of course everyone is connected to the israel military is some way.

i'm not..

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

this is too obvious it should not have to be stated.

and yet you did

Mexicans are required to drive on the right hand side of the road fyi ..

10-09-2011, 09:02 AM	#1
Talia_Payoneer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 337	Explanation about Payoneer and statement from Payoneer President and Founder Hi everyone, Now that we've been present on the board for a few months, we wanted to let you know a bit more about Payoneer. While a lot of people talk about us, we are clearly newer to the adult scene than our mainstream verticals (just over a year), so we wanted to let you know who we are. The following is a note from our president and founder: Hello GFYers, I am Yuval Tal, President and Founder of Payoneer. In light of recent malicious comments posted on these boards, I wanted to introduce myself and let you know about Payoneer. First and foremost, in its almost 7 years in business, Payoneer has never been investigated, subpoenaed, fined in any way, or received any type of warning from any US or international law agency, and works closely with international authorities to fight fraud and illegal activities. Founded in 2005 and currently processing over $1 billion in payouts per year, Payoneer is licensed in the United States to service businesses that cover all aspects of ecommerce other than gambling. We have raised $17 million from venture capital companies and work closely with several banks. We serve a variety of industries including freelancers, affiliates, and travel, and for the past year or so, adult. With over 130 employees, most of whom come from the finance industry and are well trained in the financial world, we comply with all relevant laws, American and international, and also have research and development offices in Tel Aviv. We believe in fair trade and competition: We appreciate Paxum's business model and strongly believe that it's important that people and companies have more than one payment option. As most of you already know, we appreciate any and all feedback (that's what Talia is here for and why her email address is clearly posted in her signature). We DO listen to what you request - 2 of the recent additions to our service, P2P and bank transfers all over the world - are direct results of feedback that we have read here on GFY and on other forums (P2P is mostly from GFY). Please continue to contact us when needed - I am very happy to hear that so many have been emailing our community team (Talia and Nissim) for the additional help that you may need offline, and hope you continue to do so in the future. We look forward to continuing to provide you with the best services possible to meet the needs of all of our customers. Have a great week. Yuval Tal __________________ Talia Klein Director of Community at Payoneer Email [email protected] Email me about becoming a Payoneer sponsor Last edited by Talia_Payoneer; 10-09-2011 at 09:15 AM.. Reason: Added intro from Yuval that I accidentally omitted.

10-09-2011, 09:06 AM	#2
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,234	Huh title kind a sounded like you closing payoneer lol __________________ For GFY administration inquiries- email info at gfy.com or send PM. For advertising inquiries - email marketing at gfy.com Inquiries which are not related to administration or advertising on GFY wont be processed.

10-09-2011, 09:08 AM	#3
Talia_Payoneer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 337	Ooops! Sorry, definitely not closing :-) I can't edit the title, it won't let me... __________________ Talia Klein Director of Community at Payoneer Email [email protected] Email me about becoming a Payoneer sponsor

10-09-2011, 09:10 AM	#4
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10-09-2011, 09:11 AM	#5
2intense Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Google Posts: 12,356	bump for payoneer __________________ Fast & Reliable Website Hosting

10-09-2011, 09:29 AM	#9
adultchatpay Let's Make Money Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,784	Indeed, multiple payment option is needed. Hope Payoneer and the like stays serving us all. Whether you like it or not.

10-09-2011, 09:43 AM	#11
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	I have used payoneer for a long time now and have nothing but good things to say about them.

10-09-2011, 09:51 AM	#13
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10-09-2011, 09:53 AM	#14
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Nice, I have been meaning to sign up. What are the fees?

10-09-2011, 10:05 AM	#15
TwinCities Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 492	My number one rule is to use the least amount of adult service providers that I can. I know it is a sad unfortunate statement but having been around for quite a while and watching what has happened with various hosting companies and payment processors it's simply how I feel. I use Payoneer. I use them because they are a venture backed company that came into adult as merely an afterthought and they have no aspirations of making movies that I know of. lol . Adult is not their core business. This has allowed them to build a business not based on the "adult" fantasy of how business is done, but instead how real-world business is done. You can read more about them here: http://techcrunch.com/search/Payoneer

10-09-2011, 10:17 AM	#16
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	Can you shed some light on rumours surrounding your connection with israeli mossad hitmen ? Israeli hitmen using payoneer cards and forged identities were sent to murder an arab. Was there some cooperation involved here or is it pure coincidence your former involvement in mossad and the fact these hitmen used payoneer and were also involved in mossad ? There was some speculation that these hitmen used stolen payoneer identities to carry out the murder . What is your stance on this ? __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-09-2011, 10:37 AM	#18
OneHungLo Colonizer Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 37,696	Yuval also served as vice president of business development for RADWARE (NASDAQ: RDWR) and in an elite combat unit of the Israel Defense Forces. __________________ “Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. ― Calvin Coolidge

10-09-2011, 10:41 AM	#19
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	well, I guess an org like Mossad could use any kind of prepaid card they wanted, its kind of weak argument against payoneer lol Btw in Spain Payoneer is by far the most common prepaid card among webmasters. In general I think that after the epass fiasco, sponsors and webmasters should have all options and dont put again all eggs in one basket.... __________________ M&A Queen

10-09-2011, 10:43 AM	#20
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	its nice for payoneer users to have people like you post here __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

10-09-2011, 10:50 AM	#23
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	__________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-09-2011, 10:51 AM	#24
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	Smokey, I never say its not valid question. Just said that sometimes we tend to see shadows everywhere. Almost all israeli tech companies start from military,its very common there that people that meet/work together in the tech military form afterwards companies. I just think that an org like mossad would prefer something more undercover if they wanted to use prepaid cards than a very very known israeli company... __________________ M&A Queen

10-09-2011, 11:23 AM	#29
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,030	Smokey...you know that they will never address that with any amount of truth. Even if true, they will lie lie lie about it. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

10-09-2011, 11:24 AM	#30
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	The Central Bank, said Lt Gen Dahi, has enquired with the "issuers of the cards" about the source of the funds but has not had any response from them so far. Notices "If we do not get a convincing response from them, I will request a red notice and a black notice for the institutions, as well as a UAE ban on the use of cards issued by them," he said. An Interpol red notice requests the arrest of wanted persons with a view to extradition while a black notice seeks information on unidentified bodies. A Central Bank source familiar with the investigation confirmed to Gulf News that the bank is in contact with "the issuers of the cards" to determine the identities of the cardholders and the sources of their funds According to information released by Dubai Police, some of the cards used by the suspects were prepaid Meta Bank MasterCards, which are issued by Payoneer, a US based company that specialises in prepaid debit cards targeted to internet shoppers. The cards function like credit cards but can be used as an alternative in that they are topped up with funds beforehand. The Payoneer connection unveils a network of links to Israel, specifically its intelligence community. Its CEO is Yuval Tal, an Israeli citizen who, according to media reports, described himself as a former Israeli special forces commando in a 2006 Fox News interview. However, a person who said he met Tal a couple of times but did not want to be named told Gulf News that "there is no question in my mind that Yuval has contacts with [Israel's spy agency] Mossad". He recalled a conversation Tal had with attendees of a Jewish charity event in New York, where he spoke of his connections with Mossad. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-09-2011, 11:26 AM	#31
LatinaCrazy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South America Posts: 323	We have been using Payoneer since the closing of epassporte and while we have been happy with them they do not fullfill our needs. I took us one year for someone to respond to our request to be a partner! While they now have to P2P payments the limits are horrible.. The card limit is very low for our needs as well. We do about 40k per month in payouts with some people receiving 10k at a time. I takes us 10 days to transfer money to them. If we withdraw at an atm it takes us 10 days to withdraw the funds. I realize that many people do not need this type of service but many do as well. There seems to be no way to be upgraded to higher levels. What really sucks is customer service... When we where with Epassporte we had our account rep and he was great,, We even had his personal cel number, not that we ever used it except to wish him happy birthday. Ok had my rant for today now I will GFM. Dont throw stones at Mosad, they have a tendency to eat them> __________________ ICQ: 288-147-085 \| Email: promolata [at] gmail.com

10-09-2011, 11:35 AM	#34
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	if they were connected to mossad why would they use a service that could be exposed by any internet muckracker? why not go with some other service? what advantage would using payoneer over other services have? i'm sure mossad was able to buy and any type of cards from anywhere? Last edited by porno jew; 10-09-2011 at 11:36 AM..

10-09-2011, 11:44 AM	#38
blofer80 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 932	SmokeyTheBear - You have Anti Israeli posts for years on GFY. Get a life and stop flooding the thread. Give a little respect for a huge company posts here on gfy , you can say whatever you want in any thread but dont make 95% of this thread posts related to your shit.

10-09-2011, 11:46 AM	#39
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 23,783	You have a pretty neck... lol

10-09-2011, 11:56 AM	#43
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,030	Question Anything Isreali = Anti-Semite Love that logic. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

10-09-2011, 12:08 PM	#48
Sid70 Downshifter Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Road trip Posts: 16,410	Great to know! __________________ Русня, идите нахуй!

10-09-2011, 12:10 PM	#49
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 22,722	Smokey is trying to get his house strafed by Apache's and then bulldozed. __________________ If you don't like that Elon Musk bought twitter,... just build your own and stop crying about it.