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cooldude7 10-04-2011 10:48 PM

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make your player for geeks and not for regular users.,
what i meant is your player looks like its made for geeks and not for regular surfers.,


thanks for your time., have a gr8 day ahead.,

blackmonsters 10-04-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cooldude7 (Post 18469988)
what i meant is your player looks like its made for geeks and not for regular surfers.,


thanks for your time., have a gr8 day ahead.,

That's how I read it.

I dress the same way. :1orglaugh

:thumbsup

harvey 10-04-2011 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18469918)
Bullshit!

Bottom line : You wanted me to do something for free but only if I would not use it for
anyone else.

Sorry bro, but what good is that to me or anyone else?

You wanted me to agree to risk being sued for making my own player and you were
not even going to pay for that.

I did agree that I would make you an exclusive player for you to resell in your designs
but I asked for $10 per license but you had to buy in bulk, at least the first time,
for a total of $300.

So you hit the road running when you heard $300.
You didn't want to pay $300 fo 30 players that you would sale for $900.

End of Story.

....

My last post on the subject since you seem to be really slow:
1) I was going to provide the clients. I was going to provide a high end design. You had to provide 5 mins of your time (well, since your PC is slow let's say 10).

2) I've customized MANY flash players and I know how much time it takes once you have all the elements. But let's say it would take you 2 hours. If I ask ANY DESIGNER OR DEVELOPER "hey, I'll give you everything you need and a portfolio of clients and you'll need to work a couple hours" I can bet you 99.999999999999% of people would kill for this. Your answer asking for money upfront was so crazy I simply didn't care. I spend way more than $300 per week on development (make it double or triple). One thing is: "hey, that's cool, but what about a plan to develop this or that and add more features? I just need x amount of money" and another thing is your approach.

3) You seem to forget your player's features ALREADY EXISTS. Even FOR FREE.

4) I already have customized players with way more features than yours. You're so dense you can't even realize I was handling you some help like I did with tens of developers or even designers (yeah, even my own competition) in this board

5) I was very clear I wasn't going to sell your player. Instead, that I'd send you my clients. And stop dreaming, nobody will pay $100 for that. You would need to find this concurrence of events:
a) someone that doesn't know ANYTHING about video players
b) on top of that, someone that is interested in slow motion rather than any feature that actually makes money
c) someone that on top of the previous conditions doesn't care AT ALL about the look of their sites.

6) and yes, with all of the above, in exchange of clients and design so you could actually make a sale, I requested that MY DESIGN wasn't available for anyone else. Yeah, what an asshole of me not benefiting everybody else off my FREE work :Oh crap

Now, see what any smart person would have done or said:
1) "hey, I can make my player better, I can showcase it, I can make it stand out and I have to give nothing in exchange!"
2) wow, now I can have great themes/skins and sell my player with my default or charge a plus for HQ skin customization
3) wow, someone is providing me with FREE leads to make sales... and even a better look.. FOR FREE!
4) cool, now I can concentrate in making money and creating a client base
5) add any decent option here

and the results:
1) a decent player you can't sell
2) you lost a safe portfolio of clients
3) a horrible look like everybody is telling (which in turn will make you won't be able to sell it)
4) you lost any future chance of working with several people in this board

and all of this because:
1) you were greedy
2) you ARE stubborn

Anyway, like I said, good luck, as you can see I didn't even mention the players with similar features other people could buy or acquire for free to avoid more harm that the one you already done to yourself. If you can't get a learning from this, your loss :2 cents:

PS: about this:
Sorry bro, but what good is that to me or anyone else?

I thought money was enough payment, what a fucking idiot I am. And about everybody else, I work for myself and to provide for my family, not as a charity, everybody else could PAY for my work (heck, it was PAY YOU for my work and you're so dense you still didn't get it) :2 cents:

blackmonsters 10-04-2011 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey (Post 18470030)
Blah blah and a crock of shit

Thanks for posting but I'm no longer going to read this shit.

You are mad because you offered something with conditions that were unreasonable
and you don't want to hear that.

I don't even like your designs even if they are "better", so why would I try to use
something that I don't even like?

Get over yourself. We didn't come to an agreement, you lost no money so
why lose your mind?

Mutt 10-04-2011 11:28 PM

Let Harvey skin it - i'll buy it if you let Harvey or anybody do a nice skin for me.

blackmonsters 10-04-2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18470050)
Let Harvey skin it - i'll buy it if you let Harvey or anybody do a nice skin for me.

That's not a problem to have someone else do a skin.

The problem is he wants a guarantee that I will never make a design in my player that
"looks like his". The problem is that his design is going to be developed based on
how my player works so in someone's opinion it may always look like his design.

I mean, what's he going to do; make the "slow" button blue and then sue me
if I release a version with a blue "slow" button?????

His conditions were not realistic.

I did agree to never intentionally make a "look alike design".
That wasn't good enough for him.

He cancelled the plans, not me.
And he never complained about how much I asked him to pay until now.

Mutt 10-04-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18470060)
That's not a problem to have someone else do a skin.

The problem is he wants a guarantee that I will never make a design in my player that
"looks like his". The problem is that his design is going to be developed based on
how my player works so in someone's opinion it may always look like his design.

I mean, what's he going to do; make the "slow" button blue and then sue me
if I release a version with a blue "slow" button?????

His conditions were not realistic.

I did agree to never intentionally make a "look a like design".
That wasn't good enough for him.

He cancelled the plans, not me.
And he never complained about how much I asked him to pay until now.

Harvey is a very reasonable guy - I'm sure he'll clarify what he wanted to do. But if somebody pays you for unique skin there's nothing wrong with requiring exclusivity on that skin.

blackmonsters 10-05-2011 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18470068)
Harvey is a very reasonable guy - I'm sure he'll clarify what he wanted to do. But if somebody pays you for unique skin there's nothing wrong with requiring exclusivity on that skin.

Sure, but he's complaining that I didn't do it for free.



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harvey 10-05-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18470050)
Let Harvey skin it - i'll buy it if you let Harvey or anybody do a nice skin for me.

Sorry, Mutt, but no way, under any condition, specially now that he changed his story (again). I just can't stand liars and bullshitters, specially divas and drama queens that lie

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18470060)
That's not a problem to have someone else do a skin.

The problem is he wants a guarantee that I will never make a design in my player that
"looks like his". The problem is that his design is going to be developed based on
how my player works so in someone's opinion it may always look like his design.

wrong on each and every point

I mean, what's he going to do; make the "slow" button blue and then sue me
if I release a version with a blue "slow" button?????

yes, that's what I do, I sue people who uses blue buttons (???)

His conditions were not realistic.

????

I did agree to never intentionally make a "look alike design".

A plan lie. Furthermore, it's proven you wouldn't be able to

That wasn't good enough for him.

????

He cancelled the plans, not me.
And he never complained about how much I asked him to pay until now.

I didn't complain about how much you asked me to pay you to give you work. I just mentioned the fact as a crazy thing. And that only after you got bananas because I mentioned that Flowpayer (between a few hundreds players) have slow motion features


blackmonsters 10-05-2011 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by harvey (Post 18470076)
Sorry, Mutt, but no way, under any condition, specially now that he changed his story (again). I just can't stand liars and bullshitters, specially divas and drama queens that lie

I hate cheap people who run a business but don't want to spend money on it
and then bring up a bunch of lies and crap to hide that fact that they simply don't
want to pay.

You know bro, you sure get a nasty case of the stink ass when you don't get your
way.

:2 cents:

blackmonsters 10-05-2011 12:12 AM

50 slomos.

lagcam 10-05-2011 12:16 AM

Blackmonsters can you contact me via the online support on the site in my sig or give me your contact info please I would like to talk with you (when you finish fighting with Harvey of course :) )

blackmonsters 10-05-2011 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 18470090)
Blackmonsters can you contact me via the online support on the site in my sig or give me your contact info please I would like to talk with you (when you finish fighting with Harvey of course :) )

Will do...

harvey 10-05-2011 12:31 AM

Just in case, blackmonsters, I want to apologize to you. Despite the fact that I stand 100% for everything I said, I understand that I shouldn't have said so in a thread where you are trying to sell your product and I also understand what I said may affect your sales. For that, I apology and, again, I wish you good luck with your sales and hope the views translates to sales. I really don't care what you said about me, including the lies and insults, I'm a pretty grown up person and I shouldn't involve in such petty discussions, much less have a negative influence in your ability to sell your product. Sorry again.

blackmonsters 10-05-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by harvey (Post 18470111)
Just in case, blackmonsters, I want to apologize to you. Despite the fact that I stand 100% for everything I said, I understand that I shouldn't have said so in a thread where you are trying to sell your product and I also understand what I said may affect your sales. For that, I apology and, again, I wish you good luck with your sales and hope the views translates to sales. I really don't care what you said about me, including the lies and insults, I'm a pretty grown up person and I shouldn't involve in such petty discussions, much less have a negative influence in your ability to sell your product. Sorry again.

I'm cool with that.

We didn't agree on some things last time, but that was last time!

If I had the money then I would hire you to create some skins
to distribute with my player and of course you would make one that you liked
for yourself and everything would work out.

mchacal 10-05-2011 05:54 PM

Hi there, Harvey told me about your player. I'm the mofo who was sent your way but I was too busy doing other stuff. If you and Harvey are finish with the dispute we could talk about business?

Please contact me so we can discuss about it

blackmonsters 10-05-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mchacal (Post 18472067)
Hi there, Harvey told me about your player. I'm the mofo who was sent your way but I was too busy doing other stuff. If you and Harvey are finish with the dispute we could talk about business?

Please contact me so we can discuss about it

:1orglaugh

I will send you a email.

blackmonsters 10-05-2011 09:03 PM

New Skin Added

Please critique my flash player again.

http://slomoplayer.com/


Thanks

porno jew 10-05-2011 09:07 PM

Geocities called they want their site design back.

habibjr 10-05-2011 09:17 PM

functionality is pretty cool for users...Not sure if they will be paying attention to the video or playing with the size, color and zoom

blackmonsters 10-05-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18472324)
Geocities called they want their site design back.

Yeah, but google told them to fuck off and kept it.

:1orglaugh


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