Gamma Entertainment Acquires Tube Site PornerBros.com - GoFuckYourself.com

Theo · 09-29-2011, 12:38 PM

MONTREAL?Gamma Entertainment has acquired PornerBros.com, an adult tube site that currently offers a wide variety of niche content, with videos divided into 58 categories. As new owners, Gamma will upload a minimum of 500 new full length videos to the site each day over the next month.

"Gamma is proud to introduce PornerBros as the newest member of our family," said Karl Bernard, President of Gamma Entertainment. "We are committed to growing the site to offer the selection of free content that people desire with the industry standards that our company strives to uphold."

An outspoken supporter of content protection and active participant in the FSC's Anti-Privacy Action Program (APAP), one of the first actions taken by Gamma since the purchase has been to review all existing licenses and remove from the tube site non-compliant videos, as needed.

rest of the story:

http://business.avn.com/company-news...om-449304.html

Jman · 09-29-2011, 12:42 PM

Congrats on the acquisition Gammae is still on the growth path. Bonne job les boys ;)

Toni · 09-29-2011, 12:44 PM

500 per day?

papill0n · 09-29-2011, 12:45 PM

500 full length videos a day ? and they actually announce that ?

another sponsor I will never promote again.

GTS Mark · 09-29-2011, 12:59 PM

Congrats guys, it's a great site!

Roald · 09-29-2011, 01:00 PM

damn......

Doug of Montreal · 09-29-2011, 01:01 PM

Double damn!

But congrats... I guess??

Wizzo · 09-29-2011, 01:04 PM

Congrats Gamma!

CaptainHowdy · 09-29-2011, 01:07 PM

"Bros before ...."

arock10 · 09-29-2011, 02:09 PM

lol 500 a day

halfpint · 09-29-2011, 02:24 PM

Anybody want teencoedtube.com ?

hateman · 09-29-2011, 03:47 PM

why did they buys such a shitty domain?

anyway, links pulled

SomeCreep · 09-29-2011, 04:02 PM

I bet that was a very expensive acquisition.

Theo · 09-29-2011, 05:22 PM

Smart move. Looking forward to see the applied changes.

BIGTYMER · 09-29-2011, 05:35 PM

Never even heard of that tube.

bns666 · 09-29-2011, 05:39 PM

was that a yobt's site ?

Niktamer · 09-29-2011, 05:43 PM

congrats Karl... of course they can upload 500 new videos a day .. they own one of the best protected content librairy.

New stuff + high quality + good ad service.

Lets talk !

Nautilus · 09-29-2011, 06:10 PM

Did they already remove all content that was not properly licensed? I see there are about 150 pages of content now at pornerbros.com while there were about 1000 of them 2 weeks ago. If so big thanks to Gamma for sparing us one more tube that we do not have to check for stolen videos anymore.

TheSquealer · 09-29-2011, 06:12 PM

NO ONE cleared this with Paul Markham.

I am dissapoint

Pornopat · 09-29-2011, 10:03 PM

500 a day???

epitome · 09-29-2011, 10:28 PM

If people still don't see the trend ... that giving away free content (that is easily licensed) ... makes money, I'm sorry.

We have a legal tube, too ... where we own thousands of full length scenes. It makes money. Giving porn away for free makes money.

Not saying it always will, but it does in 2011.

We also put up shorter 3-5 minute vids as an affiliate with a text link under the video and guess what? THEY MAKE MEMBERSHIP SALES! Even if they're right next to a 25 minute scene we own.

Makaveli · 09-29-2011, 10:35 PM

Yea they make sales but the ratios are fucking horrible.

Shap · 09-30-2011, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makaveli

Yea they make sales but the ratios are fucking horrible.

It's not necessarily about making sales to paysites

Congrats gamma. Is this site big?

Paper_Amar · 09-30-2011, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

If people still don't see the trend ... that giving away free content (that is easily licensed) ... makes money, I'm sorry.

We have a legal tube, too ... where we own thousands of full length scenes. It makes money. Giving porn away for free makes money.

Not saying it always will, but it does in 2011.

We also put up shorter 3-5 minute vids as an affiliate with a text link under the video and guess what? THEY MAKE MEMBERSHIP SALES! Even if they're right next to a 25 minute scene we own.

Hey - can you drop me a quick icq or email plz - btw didnt realize you were in lauderdale - we are in miami!

DarkJedi · 09-30-2011, 07:51 AM

PornerBros.com

Could they have bought a more stupid domain? Doubt it.

Wizzo · 09-30-2011, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

PornerBros.com

Could they have bought a more stupid domain? Doubt it.

I have a feeling its the sub-1000 alexa ranking and not the domain name that really mattered...

DarkJedi · 09-30-2011, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo

I have a feeling its the sub-1000 alexa ranking and not the domain name that really mattered...

because it's hard to get a lot of traffic on a tube site

Pornopat · 09-30-2011, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

because it's hard to get a lot of traffic on a tube site

Congrats on your winning tubesite!

Wizzo · 09-30-2011, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

because it's hard to get a lot of traffic on a tube site

We all can't be Paul Markum...

boneprone · 09-30-2011, 10:34 AM

Damn. Had no idea they were flipping that site. Ive made some nice money off that site..
Congrats to my friends at Gamma.

I wonder if yobt is for sale too?

boneprone · 09-30-2011, 10:35 AM

A lot of very large tube sites changing owners this week. Just got the news about some others 3 days ago.

epitome · 09-30-2011, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paper_Amar

Hey - can you drop me a quick icq or email plz - btw didnt realize you were in lauderdale - we are in miami!

Will do. Running around today so it may be this evening. Yeah, just moved to FTL in May. Had no idea you're in Miami.

porno jew · 09-30-2011, 10:48 AM

crime pays.

adapt or die.

MarkDeus · 10-25-2011, 12:44 PM

*Bump, because my GFY account just got approved yesterday.*

First: let me introduce myself, since this is my first post. I'm Mark, and I manage all the content published on PornerBros. I'm not here to discuss the decisions that were taken by the company, I think the press release does that by itself. Thanks to all for your opinion and and I'll keep them into consideration

As for the trolls, well, give your best shot.

To all of you that want to deal with us: Add me on ICQ# 631877938 and it will be a pleasure to create you a partner account. We are mostly looking for 5min+ vids. You'll have an underplayer spot for each vid submitted, and linking codes will be assigned automatically.

To all of you that dealt with the site before the acquisition: I still have access to the affiliates accounts that the old guys created. so nothing changed, we can still do business together and not loose anything

Boneprone: Wanna do more? contact me and I'll set you up

DWB · 10-25-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

crime pays.

adapt or die.

Agent88, how are you?

DVTimes · 10-25-2011, 02:31 PM

more free porn

FreeHugeMovies · 10-25-2011, 03:03 PM

SleazyTube.com is for sale! hehe

DWB · 10-25-2011, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

more free porn

Yeh!

RyuLion · 10-25-2011, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

damn......

Robbie · 10-25-2011, 03:18 PM

It's great being a surfer of generic porn these days!

Not so good for affiliates trying to make sales

DVTimes · 10-25-2011, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

It's great being a surfer of generic porn these days!

Not so good for affiliates trying to make sales

just enjoy the free porn and work out when this biz came to an end.

HomerSimpson · 10-25-2011, 05:02 PM

congrats to winners...

Hank_Heartland · 10-26-2011, 05:15 AM

Move over Manwin here comes Gamma...Welcome to Montreal free traffic capital of the world...congrats Karl

MarkDeus · 10-26-2011, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland

Move over Manwin here comes Gamma...Welcome to Montreal free traffic capital of the world...congrats Karl

Free traffic? I don't think so.. With half our bridges down or barely standing up nowadays, you should see what rush hours looks like!

Roald · 10-26-2011, 07:51 AM

Can you drop me a line at [email protected] please? Want to upload our DVDs up there.

Thanks!!

Robbie · 10-26-2011, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

If people still don't see the trend ... that giving away free content (that is easily licensed) ... makes money, I'm sorry.

I'm thinking that in the case of some companies like Gamma...they have been devastated over the last few years from piracy AND now "free".

I mean they were making millions over the last 10 years with Porn Access. But what is Porn Access? It's basically all the porn dvds from most every major studio in a big paysite.

Now...all of that content is already out there for FREE everywhere.

So they found themselves in a situation of watching their money drop. So...without any skin in the game (just licensed content)...they had to look at a situation of diminishing returns.

How to make money from all this DVD porn?

Well...everybody else is monetizing the traffic from that same content via the "Free" route of selling pre-paid ad spots (traffic) and whitelabel cams, etc.

So the time has come that they will now lose less money by going this route with their investment of licensed content.

Will it hurt Porn Access and other Gamma paysites? Probably not one bit more than they are already hurt. And why should they sit back and watch other people making the money off of tubes with that content and not get a slice of it for themselves?

Of course in the big picture/long run...it's all a race to the bottom in my opinion. But at this point they have nothing to lose and something to gain by doing it.

I suppose this will all sort out in a couple of years when we have a dozen or so companies sitting on their giant traffic tube sites and all selling cams, dating, and penis pills with the occasional paysite sale.

I honestly don't know if that's going to be long term viable. But one things for sure...it's better for Gamma to make money now than it is to lose money. And that's the bottom line. They are looking to make money now with this. Nobody can fault them for that.

Roald · 10-26-2011, 08:25 AM

Besides Gamma (pornaccess) they got Fame and Livebucks and some gay program. I think they still do ok on those.

Robbie · 10-26-2011, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

Besides Gamma (pornaccess) they got Fame and Livebucks and some gay program. I think they still do ok on those.

Yeah Buddy Profits may do okay. And they have more than just that too...their Tranny program and several other ones.

But all of them are still dependent on licensed DVD porn that is found everywhere for free now.
Which sucks, because the whole business model of those sites is to have thousands of scenes from damn near every DVD from every porn studio for one low price and one pass to get it all.

It was one of the best deals you could get.

Until somebody decided to give it all away for free.

So I think the only smart thing they can do is to make some of that tube money for themselves while they still have the financial means to buy an ongoing high traffic tube site and build it.

It's a smart move for them in their particular situation.

Bad for us affiliates...but not really. Why do I say "not really?" Well, we have already been smashed down. So this isn't going to really make much of a dent at this point. The big crash already happened.

Hopefully Gamma will be able to survive and thrive as an ongoing business.

They've always been good people and we've made a lot of money together over the last 10+ years.

geirlur · 10-26-2011, 09:36 AM

I got some trade requests for pornerbros on linkspun a while back, I wonder if the old owner will keep the linktrades after the sell. If not, that must be bad for SEO..

Black All Through · 10-26-2011, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornerBros

*Bump, because my GFY account just got approved yesterday.*

First: let me introduce myself, since this is my first post. I'm Mark, and I manage all the content published on PornerBros. I'm not here to discuss the decisions that were taken by the company, I think the press release does that by itself. Thanks to all for your opinion and and I'll keep them into consideration

As for the trolls, well, give your best shot.

To all of you that want to deal with us: Add me on ICQ# 631877938 and it will be a pleasure to create you a partner account. We are mostly looking for 5min+ vids. You'll have an underplayer spot for each vid submitted, and linking codes will be assigned automatically.

To all of you that dealt with the site before the acquisition: I still have access to the affiliates accounts that the old guys created. so nothing changed, we can still do business together and not loose anything

Boneprone: Wanna do more? contact me and I'll set you up

Good luck with the tube man, we did some seo work on it these past months with some very good results.

09-29-2011, 12:38 PM	#1
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Gamma Entertainment Acquires Tube Site PornerBros.com MONTREAL?Gamma Entertainment has acquired PornerBros.com, an adult tube site that currently offers a wide variety of niche content, with videos divided into 58 categories. As new owners, Gamma will upload a minimum of 500 new full length videos to the site each day over the next month. "Gamma is proud to introduce PornerBros as the newest member of our family," said Karl Bernard, President of Gamma Entertainment. "We are committed to growing the site to offer the selection of free content that people desire with the industry standards that our company strives to uphold." An outspoken supporter of content protection and active participant in the FSC's Anti-Privacy Action Program (APAP), one of the first actions taken by Gamma since the purchase has been to review all existing licenses and remove from the tube site non-compliant videos, as needed. rest of the story: http://business.avn.com/company-news...om-449304.html

09-29-2011, 12:42 PM	#2
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09-29-2011, 12:45 PM	#4
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	500 full length videos a day ? and they actually announce that ? another sponsor I will never promote again.

09-29-2011, 12:59 PM	#5
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Congrats guys, it's a great site!

09-29-2011, 01:04 PM	#8
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09-29-2011, 03:47 PM	#12
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09-29-2011, 05:22 PM	#14
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Smart move. Looking forward to see the applied changes.

09-29-2011, 05:35 PM	#15
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09-29-2011, 05:43 PM	#17
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09-29-2011, 06:10 PM	#18
Nautilus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,631	Did they already remove all content that was not properly licensed? I see there are about 150 pages of content now at pornerbros.com while there were about 1000 of them 2 weeks ago. If so big thanks to Gamma for sparing us one more tube that we do not have to check for stolen videos anymore. __________________ . . FerroCash - 50+ quality niche paysites to promote \| 100K+ FHGs \| Check recently added galleries New sites \| Pantyhose \| Nylon \| Shemale \| Strapon \| Lesbian \| Mature/MILF \| Anal \| Old&Young \| Gay \| Feet Morphing RSS feeds - check them at the Official blog\| Page Peels (Sample 1 : Sample 2) Wish to review or evaluate our sites before promoting them? Contact me for free password. ICQ: 38.89.22.76 e-mail: support AT ferrocash.com

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09-29-2011, 10:03 PM	#20
Pornopat AdultTubeSubmits.com Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 10,598	500 a day??? __________________ https://stripcash.com/sign-up/?userI...fff832eb95ab6a

09-29-2011, 10:28 PM	#21
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	If people still don't see the trend ... that giving away free content (that is easily licensed) ... makes money, I'm sorry. We have a legal tube, too ... where we own thousands of full length scenes. It makes money. Giving porn away for free makes money. Not saying it always will, but it does in 2011. We also put up shorter 3-5 minute vids as an affiliate with a text link under the video and guess what? THEY MAKE MEMBERSHIP SALES! Even if they're right next to a 25 minute scene we own.

09-29-2011, 10:35 PM	#22
Makaveli Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,027	Yea they make sales but the ratios are fucking horrible.

09-30-2011, 07:51 AM	#25
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	PornerBros.com Could they have bought a more stupid domain? Doubt it.

09-30-2011, 10:34 AM	#30
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Damn. Had no idea they were flipping that site. Ive made some nice money off that site.. Congrats to my friends at Gamma. I wonder if yobt is for sale too? __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

09-30-2011, 10:35 AM	#31
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	A lot of very large tube sites changing owners this week. Just got the news about some others 3 days ago. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

09-30-2011, 10:48 AM	#33
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	crime pays. adapt or die.

10-25-2011, 12:44 PM	#34
MarkDeus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 643	Bump, because my GFY account just got approved yesterday. First: let me introduce myself, since this is my first post. I'm Mark, and I manage all the content published on PornerBros. I'm not here to discuss the decisions that were taken by the company, I think the press release does that by itself. Thanks to all for your opinion and and I'll keep them into consideration As for the trolls, well, give your best shot. To all of you that want to deal with us: Add me on ICQ# 631877938 and it will be a pleasure to create you a partner account. We are mostly looking for 5min+ vids. You'll have an underplayer spot for each vid submitted, and linking codes will be assigned automatically. To all of you that dealt with the site before the acquisition: I still have access to the affiliates accounts that the old guys created. so nothing changed, we can still do business together and not loose anything Boneprone: Wanna do more? contact me and I'll set you up

10-25-2011, 02:31 PM	#36
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10-25-2011, 03:18 PM	#40
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10-25-2011, 05:02 PM	#42
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10-26-2011, 05:15 AM	#43
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10-26-2011, 07:51 AM	#45
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,889	Can you drop me a line at [email protected] please? Want to upload our DVDs up there. Thanks!! __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| telegram: roaldr Last edited by Roald; 10-26-2011 at 07:54 AM.. Reason: typo

10-26-2011, 08:25 AM	#47
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,889	Besides Gamma (pornaccess) they got Fame and Livebucks and some gay program. I think they still do ok on those. __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| telegram: roaldr

10-26-2011, 09:36 AM	#49
geirlur Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Æøå Posts: 2,019	I got some trade requests for pornerbros on linkspun a while back, I wonder if the old owner will keep the linktrades after the sell. If not, that must be bad for SEO.. __________________ BitUnix - My favorite place to trade crypto!