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  • blackmonsters
    Making PHP work
    • Nov 2002
    • 20961
    #1

    Noobs are FUCKED!!!

    I think that anyone that wants to get into this biz now for the very first time has
    no chance of making any decent money if they come into this with less the 20k to invest.

    I'm not talking about a new pay site either.
    I'm saying that a serious noob needs this just to get a decent free site started that
    will make any kind of money.

    I figure between buying scripts, custom programming and design, content, proper hosting
    and buying traffic; the serious noob is going to have to spend at least this much.

    What do you think?
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    • Harmon
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      • Mar 2004
      • 20012
      #2
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        • just a punk
          So fuckin' bored
          • Jun 2003
          • 32393
          #3
          I think you are right
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            • seeric
              ..........
              • Aug 2004
              • 41917
              #4
              I think they have no chance. Hell, many big affiliates that used to send to programs are making peanuts now. They either didn't, or couldn't evolve and lost their foothold. Some made the switch to the new free model. Many did not.

              If you're not going to just flat out steal and monetize content in the new web's way, you don't have much of a chance any more as a noob.

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                • drmadcat
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 2024
                  #5
                  most of my site stats are climbing each day from blogs that i have just set up but ive been in mainstream for a long time which helps allot im going to carry on with my blogs and see what happens i don't expect to make mega money doing it more as a hobby know
                  Last edited by drmadcat; 09-26-2011, 08:32 AM.
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                    • Chosen
                      VIPPay.com | AdultWebSponsors.com
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 63151
                      #6
                      I'm trying not to think...

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                        • blackmonsters
                          Making PHP work
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 20961
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Chosen
                          I'm trying not to think...
                          And you've done a great job of it too.


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                            • baryl
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1086
                              #8
                              Speaking as a noob I didn't have any expectations of making a living off of adult when I started about six months ago but I think it's still viable as a means of making a bit of side income. Sales are indeed few and far in between but I have made enough to cover my hosting costs and what I spent on scripts, etc so it's all gravy from here on out.

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                                • Django
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jul 2010
                                  • 2578
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Harmon

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                                    • magicmike
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 2384
                                      #10
                                      Okay, so how does this post help, or are you just stating the obv
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                                        • blackmonsters
                                          Making PHP work
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 20961
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by magicmike
                                          Okay, so how does this post help, or are you just stating the obv
                                          I asked "what do you think"; which gave you a full opportunity to post what ever
                                          it is that would help.

                                          But you didn't post anything except a useless whine.

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                                            • signupdamnit
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2007
                                              • 6697
                                              #12
                                              The depressing thing is that even if they make it now ten years ago you could probably multiply whatever they make now by either 10 or 100 and that is what they would have made around 1999 with the same effort. There is still money here but it's not as easy to get at.

                                              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                • TeenCat
                                                  Too lazy to set a koala
                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                  • 16139
                                                  #13
                                                  i wish you are right ... but true there is not much newbies with something new adult business related in their sigs ...

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                                                    • Avalana
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2011
                                                      • 594
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                      I think that anyone that wants to get into this biz now for the very first time has
                                                      no chance of making any decent money if they come into this with less the 20k to invest.

                                                      I'm not talking about a new pay site either.
                                                      I'm saying that a serious noob needs this just to get a decent free site started that
                                                      will make any kind of money.

                                                      I figure between buying scripts, custom programming and design, content, proper hosting
                                                      and buying traffic; the serious noob is going to have to spend at least this much.

                                                      What do you think?
                                                      epic fail...

                                                      I'm new to the biz (for about 3 months now) and I'm doing very well...

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                                                        • Alex69
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                          • 328
                                                          #15
                                                          thats bullshit, it was never as easy to make $ as it is now

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                                                            • fuzebox
                                                              making it rain
                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 22351
                                                              #16
                                                              Good. Who gives a shit about noobs?

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                                                                • ruff
                                                                  I have a plan B
                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                  • 5507
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Alex69
                                                                  thats bullshit, it was never as easy to make $ as it is now
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                                                                    • garce
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 7103
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                      I think that anyone that wants to get into this biz now for the very first time has
                                                                      no chance of making any decent money if they come into this with less the 20k to invest.

                                                                      I'm not talking about a new pay site either.
                                                                      I'm saying that a serious noob needs this just to get a decent free site started that
                                                                      will make any kind of money.

                                                                      I figure between buying scripts, custom programming and design, content, proper hosting
                                                                      and buying traffic; the serious noob is going to have to spend at least this much.

                                                                      What do you think?
                                                                      What I think? I think you're frustrated and just yanked some random figure out of your ass.

                                                                      There's a good chance that someone investing $20K on a free site (which would be a batshit insane move for 99% of the people here - figure pulled out out of MY ass) is going to lose more money than someone who invests nothing in a free site.

                                                                      You don't have to pay more money, you just have to be smarter. Write down notes about every site you visit. When it comes time to create your new site, review your notes. Do not do anything that any site you've ever visited has done.

                                                                      You'll need a LOT more than $20K to compete with what's already out there. You wanna compete with Manwin, FreeOnes, or Sexbot? Its not gonna happen any time soon. On the other hand, it'll cost you next to nothing to create your own niche.

                                                                      "Niche" sounds like small time, small money. Facebook started as a niche site - an online gathering place for college students.

                                                                      P.S. Cut this one short. My posts tend to be waaaay too long...

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                                                                        • ruff
                                                                          I have a plan B
                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 5507
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                          Good. Who gives a shit about noobs?
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                                                                            • camperjohn64
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                              • 1531
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Are you saying you need $20k:

                                                                              1) to make money by creating a paysite (and make direct sales)?

                                                                              Or

                                                                              2) to generate traffic to send to someone else's paysite (and make commisions from those sales)?

                                                                              Or both?
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                                                                                • ruff
                                                                                  I have a plan B
                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 5507
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  It does take some serious cash for software, content and hosting. 20k is probably not far off the mark. Back in the day, you could shoot your own content for little of nothing or build a site for an amateur. Of course a lot of webmasters built their empires by stealing content from newsgroups. Similar to tube sites today, yes? Over the years it was possible to by a ton of bulk content from sales and blowouts. Not so much anymore. So the learning curve is pretty stiff for the immediate return, unlike 10 years ago when you could make money with your head up your ass. So basically it comes down to what the tubes know now and the TGP's knew then, traffic is king. A noobie with deep pockets still has to know how to get traffic and that seems to be beyond even seasoned webmasters. You don't have to invest a dime of your own money to get into this game if you can get traffic. Major sponsors give you all the equipment you need to succeed for nothing more than your time. Of course, you have to have some knowledge about your tools.
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                                                                                    • signupdamnit
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                      • 6697
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Alex69
                                                                                      thats bullshit, it was never as easy to make $ as it is now
                                                                                      I used to convert pay sites 1:100 on AVERAGE 12 years ago. I put up a site I worked two hours on and made over $3,000 in one month from it. And it was on a free host and all I did was submit it to one AVS site. Try doing that today and report back your earnings. It's different.

                                                                                      You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                        • D Ghost
                                                                                          null
                                                                                          • May 2006
                                                                                          • 9820
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Harmon

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                                                                                            • Alex69
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                                                              • 328
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                              I used to convert pay sites 1:100 on AVERAGE 12 years ago. I put up a site I worked two hours on and made over $3,000 in one month from it. And it was on a free host and all I did was submit it to one AVS site. Try doing that today and report back your earnings. It's different.
                                                                                              i am, on some sites i am making as high as 1$ CPC - its called highly targeted traffic ;)

                                                                                              what you are doing is just advertising to whoever comes by

                                                                                              times have changed, i changed my sponsors and websited several times over last few years

                                                                                              then ones that were making me $ 5 years ago are making today like 1/5 as 5 years ago

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                                                                                                • mattz
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 7697
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  If you need 20k to make money in this biz, you have no clue what you're doing

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                                                                                                    • blackmonsters
                                                                                                      Making PHP work
                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                      • 20961
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by mattz
                                                                                                      If you need 20k to make money in this biz, you have no clue what you're doing
                                                                                                      That would probably be the definition of "noob", someone who doesn't know what
                                                                                                      they are doing yet.

                                                                                                      Based on what I made back in the day as a noob, I would be glad to pay 20k to
                                                                                                      return to those days. So I don't think investing that much for something that is
                                                                                                      going to win is a lot of money.
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                                                                                                        • ArsewithClass
                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                                                          • 7957
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                          I think that anyone that wants to get into this biz now for the very first time has
                                                                                                          no chance of making any decent money if they come into this with less the 20k to invest.

                                                                                                          I'm not talking about a new pay site either.
                                                                                                          I'm saying that a serious noob needs this just to get a decent free site started that
                                                                                                          will make any kind of money.

                                                                                                          I figure between buying scripts, custom programming and design, content, proper hosting
                                                                                                          and buying traffic; the serious noob is going to have to spend at least this much.

                                                                                                          What do you think?
                                                                                                          Every year, a new bunch of teens become 18 & get hold of credit cards, every year a load of new people wise up to getting peed on a friday night pulling birds & mature to staying in & buying online porn after spending hours of flicking through site after site...
                                                                                                          The right affiliates & the right content shall still sell

                                                                                                          A decent investment has to be pushed into any business & certainly more than what was, but a decent living can be successfull from adult for newbies too

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                                                                                                            • suesheboy
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                              • 5211
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by baryl
                                                                                                              Speaking as a noob I didn't have any expectations of making a living off of adult when I started about six months ago but I think it's still viable as a means of making a bit of side income. Sales are indeed few and far in between but I have made enough to cover my hosting costs and what I spent on scripts, etc so it's all gravy from here on out.
                                                                                                              What about your time?
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                                                                                                                • ilnjscb
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                                                                                                                  • Jun 2009
                                                                                                                  • 8972
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  It certainly sucks to hear you guys tell stories about 1999 vs now

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                                                                                                                    • anexsia
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • May 2010
                                                                                                                      • 5735
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I started in the adult industry not to long ago and my adult income is building every month, there's still plenty of money in porn.

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                                                                                                                        • edgeprod
                                                                                                                          Permanently Gone
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                          • 10019
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                          I think that anyone that wants to get into this biz now for the very first time has no chance of making any decent money if they come into this with less the 20k to invest.
                                                                                                                          Think about it: how many worthwhile businesses can you start for less than $20k? Why should this one be any different?

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                                                                                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                              • 23200
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              they only have a chance if they listen to me
                                                                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                              think about that

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                                                                                                                                • baryl
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2011
                                                                                                                                  • 1086
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by suesheboy
                                                                                                                                  What about your time?
                                                                                                                                  I guess we'll see. So far I've made less than minimum wage per hour put into it but I've been furiously building sites from scratch and I like to think that'll plateau out a little when I'm satisfied and can let them go on cruise control.
                                                                                                                                  Point is, I'm as a new and probably naive as they come and even I've made some money.

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                                                                                                                                    • blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                      Making PHP work
                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 20961
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by baryl
                                                                                                                                      I guess we'll see. So far I've made less than minimum wage per hour put into it but I've been furiously building sites from scratch and I like to think that'll plateau out a little when I'm satisfied and can let them go on cruise control.
                                                                                                                                      Point is, I'm as a new and probably naive as they come and even I've made some money.
                                                                                                                                      I thought that at first also, but that will not happen.
                                                                                                                                      You will either give up on them for good or they will always keep calling your name
                                                                                                                                      to come do some more work on them.

                                                                                                                                      For example : One of your sponsors will change links or go out of biz.
                                                                                                                                      Then it's back to work changing links etc...
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                                                                                                                                        • porno jew
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 10166
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          how much would is cost to build a site like seaporn.org?

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                                                                                                                                            • Just Alex
                                                                                                                                              Liv Benson to You, Bitch
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                              • 6060
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Ask Paul Markham. Is easier than you think.

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                                                                                                                                                • Sid70
                                                                                                                                                  Downshifter
                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 16413
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Been in adult design for 9 years. Quit a year ago cus webmasters dont have money to pay for design - even established dont. No affiliate programs that need banners for their affiliates, drop dead prices... I can still do it all but people are scared to invest $10 a banner.
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                                                                                                                                                    • marlboroack
                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2010
                                                                                                                                                      • 9327
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      If you can't beat them, you join them. Come on dude. You should know this, sure you been here longer than i have!

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                                                                                                                                                        • plsureking
                                                                                                                                                          bored
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 4904
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                          I'm not talking about a new pay site either.
                                                                                                                                                          a paysite would find profit a lot faster than a free site these days. especially if you have a unique product and/or a good idea.

                                                                                                                                                          a solo model can start a paysite for $5k and be making $5-10k a month within a year. it just requires a heck of a lot of hours working on the site, adding content, doing camshows, and getting your links all over the web.

                                                                                                                                                          there was a guy on PornCMS last year that started a site with videos of him jerking off. i didn't research his marketing, but he was getting over 100 free signups a day and 10-15 paid upgrades a day. i doubt his site cost much more than what he was paying for his PornCMS license. he got married and quit, but it shows you what you can do, even today, with little money and a good idea.
                                                                                                                                                          PornCMS / low cost paysite management with hosting

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                                                                                                                                                            • iModelize
                                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2011
                                                                                                                                                              • 14
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Well, being new to the adult niche I cannot comment. Only time will tell if my investment pays off, which I certainly hope it does.

                                                                                                                                                              As far as the investment goes, I would agree but not only the monetary investment, but also the time involved. I think if a noob as myself would fail, is the moment they/we failed to run our websites as a business.
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                                                                                                                                                                • plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                  bored
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 4904
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by iModelize
                                                                                                                                                                  As far as the investment goes, I would agree but not only the monetary investment, but also the time involved. I think if a noob as myself would fail, is the moment they/we failed to run our websites as a business.
                                                                                                                                                                  and i think you are helping to make the point for a lot of the replies here. hard work and the right idea matter a lot more than money. your site (www.imodelize.com) is unique and has potential if you can find the right ways to market and keep the community active.

                                                                                                                                                                  there's been a couple similar type sites that took the wrong step at one point or another and failed. mostly by posting way too many ads and allowing spam.

                                                                                                                                                                  you need a lot more than 25 members tho..
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                                                                                                                                                                    • iModelize
                                                                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2011
                                                                                                                                                                      • 14
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                      and i think you are helping to make the point for a lot of the replies here. hard work and the right idea matter a lot more than money. your site imodelize is unique and has potential if you can find the right ways to market and keep the community active.

                                                                                                                                                                      there's been a couple similar type sites that took the wrong step at one point or another and failed. mostly by posting way too many ads and allowing spam.

                                                                                                                                                                      you need a lot more than 25 members tho..
                                                                                                                                                                      Cheers for the kind words.
                                                                                                                                                                      You are very correct about finding the correct way of marketing new sites. Something in all honesty I am learning via trial and error, but persitance will pay off I am sure.

                                                                                                                                                                      I am trying to keep the site as clean as possible, keeping the ads low I think is important.
                                                                                                                                                                      Members, well that is where I am struggling haha.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Gonzodave
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2010
                                                                                                                                                                          • 390
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          I've been following this thread with delight. I'm a "noob" as you call it and I've been steadily building my network of tgp sites, legal tubes, blog, forum and paysites for a bit over 18 months.

                                                                                                                                                                          I work six days a week, sometimes more than 12 hours a day, just to get it this far. I reckon that I've invested well over $20,000 to date. It was easy to spend it!

                                                                                                                                                                          To pay somebody to do what I've done would be frightfully expensive, so I went ahead and built it all by hand. I'm nearing the end now and just gathering the link codes from my various sponsors, so hopefully if the tedium doesn't get me first, then hopefully I'll be on deck properly within weeks. By the way, I previously ran a successful webhosting business here in Australia. I sold it early last year.

                                                                                                                                                                          As for making money out of porn, I can't believe how simple it is. I have two well ranked tgp sites which are presently making around $400+ per month without any sort of special promotion, just good seo and quality sponsors.

                                                                                                                                                                          I have set aside a certain amount of money for promotion once I get the all links done - I'm thinking around $10,000 will do it.

                                                                                                                                                                          It is hard work and I feel good about the project and its prospects for making money in the future. I have come up with what I think is an orginal idea, which will set my network apart from much of what is out there at the moment. I have used my 38 years of experience in running my own successful businesses to set this up as a proper, full time, income producing venture.

                                                                                                                                                                          Every business that I have run in the past has taken over two years to produce any sort of profit for me, so I went into this with my eyes wide open, fully expecting to not make a cracker for a long time.

                                                                                                                                                                          To be making over $800 a month without trying, is a thrill and an indication to me that my idea has merit.

                                                                                                                                                                          While most of the world is in the grips of this lingering Global Finacial Crisis (GFC), one should be mindful that there is still a lot of money out there and to pry what visitors to our websites are prepared to pay for quality porn product, will take a lot of thought and originality to be able to achieve anything near the halcyon, pre-GFC incomes that many of you enjoyed.

                                                                                                                                                                          These are just my thoughts as a "noob" with more than $20,000 to spend.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • BIGTYMER
                                                                                                                                                                              Junior Achiever
                                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 17066
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              It's only going to get harder.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • KLAN
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 300
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  lol that could be possible

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                                      bored
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 4904
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by iModelize
                                                                                                                                                                                      You are very correct about finding the correct way of marketing new sites. Something in all honesty I am learning via trial and error, but persitance will pay off I am sure.
                                                                                                                                                                                      actually i think that was the point of this thread. that "trial and error" period is what costs money. not $20k, but i guess that depends what you want to build.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by iModelize
                                                                                                                                                                                      Members, well that is where I am struggling haha.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 52942
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          I think everyone would be making more if it had cost $20,000 to get started in online porn.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Well all those with $20,000 to invest. I doubt if most of those in online porn today could invest that much on a scheme.



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                                                                                                                                                                                            • seeandsee
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 50945
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              yeah, better to spend 20k on something else then? I really think they can make something with such cash...
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • xholly
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2009
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 817
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  you don't need 20k

                                                                                                                                                                                                  more like 20 dollars, a brain and motivation. that is all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • drmadcat
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2011
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 2024
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by xholly
                                                                                                                                                                                                      you don't need 20k

                                                                                                                                                                                                      more like 20 dollars, a brain and motivation. that is all.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      very true
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