occupy wall street

[BIGTYMER]

We need a revolution in this country! Wish I was in NYC.

https://occupywallst.org

[BIGTYMER]

This is how the pigs treat our women!

[BIGTYMER]

Just trying to protect their food from the rain.

[Joshua G]

the amazing thing is how little press this thing gets. Even a NY times reporter took a shit on the movement...just read the comments in reply to it...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/ny...ty-aim.html?hp

[BIGTYMER]

If anyone is in the area please show your support! Free pizza!

[BIGTYMER]

Motivation.

[Fat Panda]

these people are such fucking idiots I hope the NYPD stomps a few heads soon

[Zorgman]

Not very smart. When the police say "move on" you fucking move on. If you don't then don't complain when the shit hits the fan.

[BIGTYMER]

And it's ok for the pigs to mace the women once they've already been rounded up?

[Jaymus.]

What are they protesting exactly? I went to their website and it seems to cover everything from big business is bad to campaign donations. What would the protesters consider progress?

[ottopottomouse]

Scattergun protesting. Just protest against everything that ever existed and you can't be a complete failure as something will change anyway.

[CaptainHowdy]

"Resentment Flashmob" ...

[Internet Guy]

The revolution will not be televised...

[halfpint]

Loking at those vids the police were actually pretty soft compared to others I have seen

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by Jaymus.

What are they protesting exactly? I went to their website and it seems to cover everything from big business is bad to campaign donations. What would the protesters consider progress?

apparently at the core it's wall street corruption which should be dealt with imo, but then as was said in another thread they go on to protest the execution in georgia for instance which dilutes and throws the message off track and puts off millions of people who would otherwise agree with the original protest.

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by halfpint

Loking at those vids the police were actually pretty soft compared to others I have seen

Give it time. I bet it's going to get really ugly soon.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Give it time. I bet it's going to get really ugly soon.

have you heard about any numbers? i saw something where they had a few thousand originally but nothing since then, only that about 100 had been arrested.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Give it time. I bet it's going to get really ugly soon.

well hope it dont turn into a mass looting free for all like it did over here That was pretty scary wondering if the police could bring it under control

[BlackCrayon]

i'll be more impressed when they start executing some wall street string pullers in the streets. thats a revolution.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i'll be more impressed when they start executing some wall street string pullers in the streets. thats a revolution.

Always so funny when people go after private business, i.e. other citizens. They have no power to force you to do business with them. The only people that have that power is government, and the only way that "wall street string pullers" have power is because of corrupt government officials who will use that power on their behalf. Government is the only part of society that can legally use force to compel you to do things, and no matter how much money is involved, a government official makes a choice to become corrupt.

So except for government, every other interaction in society is a matter of free will and choices.


In short, these dupes that are protesting are going after the wrong people.... typical.



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[bronco67]

While I generally hate hippies, I can really understand where they're coming from in this case. This country has lost its way, and Wall Street running amok is a huge roadblock to our progress. I say let them burn the whole fucking place down.

[raymor]

How some people who claim to know anything about it still don't understand that Wall Street = mom's retirement fund is beyond me. That 401k you have from your old day job, that's Wall Street. Your kits wants to go to college? The $100,000 to pay for it comes from Wall Street.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Always so funny when people go after private business, i.e. other citizens. They have no power to force you to do business with them. The only people that have that power is government, and the only way that "wall street string pullers" have power is because of corrupt government officials who will use that power on their behalf. Government is the only part of society that can legally use force to compel you to do things, and no matter how much money is involved, a government official makes a choice to become corrupt.

So except for government, every other interaction in society is a matter of free will and choices.


In short, these dupes that are protesting are going after the wrong people.... typical.

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Who exactly is the corrupt government dealing with that is squeaky clean? It takes two to tango.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Just trying to protect their food from the rain.

Some of those people are so stupid it's amazing.

"The cuffs are too tight they're cutting off circulation! And he's bleeding!"

Oh noes, your fingers have some scratches on them and they're bleeding. I guess maybe there is some blood circulating after all?

The best is the guy that's yelling at the top of his lungs "I CAN'T BREATHE!". Guess what Einstein, if you really couldn't breathe, you wouldn't be able to yell.

Lol at hippies.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Jaymus.

What are they protesting exactly? I went to their website and it seems to cover everything from big business is bad to campaign donations. What would the protesters consider progress?

Throw shit against the wall and see what sticks.

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by Caligari

have you heard about any numbers? i saw something where they had a few thousand originally but nothing since then, only that about 100 had been arrested.

I'm not sure but it doesn't look very big right now. Watching the live stream now.

[Dappz]

what happening is the end of the workd

[DWB]

Did I see a chick with a Macbook?

[vsex]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

This is how the pigs treat our women!

What a fucking pussy! The white collar cop runs up, sprays a bunch of women doing nothing with mace and runs away.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by raymor

How some people who claim to know anything about it still don't understand that Wall Street = mom's retirement fund is beyond me. That 401k you have from your old day job, that's Wall Street. Your kits wants to go to college? The $100,000 to pay for it comes from Wall Street.

Yeah, so that makes them such a great bunch of guys.

It's mostly made up of people that don't produce/create anything, and make more money than they should by leeching from the people that actually do create. The business itself is inherently criminal.

I have a 401k, BTW.

[JA$ON]

What a waste of time. It can't even be compared to david and Goliath because the size and power of the Big Banking interest compared to the power this small group on the street is like an ant fighting an elephant.
I think its good for people to voice their opinions and Im glad we live in a country where you can, but if they think they can create real change they need to take a step back. there is just too much money involved. They are nothing more than a reason for the big bankers to chuckle as they pass by in their town cars.

2c

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Yeah, so that makes them such a great bunch of guys.

It's mostly made up of people that don't produce/create anything, and make more money than they should by leeching from the people that actually do create. The business itself is inherently criminal.

I have a 401k, BTW.

They can't force you to do business with them. In fact, in this day and age, you can run your own portfolio. Why are you paying a "bunch of criminals", to not produce/create anything if you don't want to? Who is forcing you to do so?


The answer is: NOONE is forcing you to do business with them, or anyone else. You make a choice to pay their fees, YOUR CHOICE.

Please tell me how the fact that you, and so many others, make a free choice to pay fees for wall street types to run their investments for them, is "inherently criminal".


this whole line of thinking is so stupid. I can't believe you guys are really such slaves to this kind of "class-warfare", "boohoo they make more than me", "If someone else is more successful then I will be less successful", propaganda crap.


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[BIGTYMER]

Viva la revolution!

[vsex]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

They can't force you to do business with them. In fact, in this day and age, you can run your own portfolio. Why are you paying a "bunch of criminals", to not produce/create anything if you don't want to? Who is forcing you to do so?


The answer is: NOONE is forcing you to do business with them, or anyone else. You make a choice to pay their fees, YOUR CHOICE.

Please tell me how the fact that you, and so many others, make a free choice to pay fees for wall street types to run their investments for them, is "inherently criminal".


this whole line of thinking is so stupid. I can't believe you guys are really such slaves to this kind of "class-warfare", "boohoo they make more than me", "If someone else is more successful then I will be less successful", propaganda crap.


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So explain to me how I made a choice that allowed me and everyone else to be fucked over by Wall Street with them tanking the economy which started with them selling off subprime mortgages bundled together as asset backed securities stamped by Moody's and S & P's as AAA rated Securities? I nor anyone else chose to then bail them out. Please enlighten us with your wisdom......

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by JA$ON

What a waste of time. It can't even be compared to david and Goliath because the size and power of the Big Banking interest compared to the power this small group on the street is like an ant fighting an elephant.
I think its good for people to voice their opinions and Im glad we live in a country where you can, but if they think they can create real change they need to take a step back. there is just too much money involved. They are nothing more than a reason for the big bankers to chuckle as they pass by in their town cars.
2c

"The system had been seven minutes worth of disrupted.
It was a tiny matter, only hardly worthy of note, but in a society where the single driving force was order and unity and equality and promptness and clocklike precision and attention to the clock and the gods of the passage of time, it was a disaster of major importance."

Ellison - Repent Harlequin! Said The Ticktockman
http://mrhoovler.com/Documents/Repent%20Harlequin.pdf

[Rochard]

What is protesting gonna do? Great, you got the issue on the news (as if the economy hasn't been in the news for the past four years straight!) and maybe got arrested. But at the end of the day nothing is being accomplished. You can complain and protest, or you can do something. But protesting and complaining isn't going to do anything.

It's always been true - those who speak the loudest are the ones least in control.

[The Heron]

Hippies are so useless, maybe if they spent time reading actual facts instead of other hippy crap they'd be productive but more likely they would still be useless

[baddog]

Originally Posted by vsex

So explain to me how I made a choice that allowed me and everyone else to be fucked over by Wall Street with them tanking the economy which started with them selling off subprime mortgages bundled together as asset backed securities stamped by Moody's and S & P's as AAA rated Securities? I nor anyone else chose to then bail them out. Please enlighten us with your wisdom......

Kind of like people that did not see the writing on the wall with epass, just on a larger scale.

Originally Posted by Rochard

What is protesting gonna do?

To suggest that protests do not work would be incorrect, however, they have to have a point. You can't just go out there and say A, B, C, D are all wrong and expect to accomplish anything except maybe pick up some chick.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by vsex

So explain to me how I made a choice that allowed me and everyone else to be fucked over by Wall Street with them tanking the economy which started with them selling off subprime mortgages bundled together as asset backed securities stamped by Moody's and S & P's as AAA rated Securities? I nor anyone else chose to then bail them out. Please enlighten us with your wisdom......

the government intervention in taking away the risk, through government funded fannie and freddie, that would ordinarily keep lenders from making millions of bad loans in the first place, is a very long one, but note that it was THE GOVERNMENT that bailed them out, with your money. Where are the people who are wishing to do the lynching in washington DC? If the government hadn't offered to buy all that bad paper, through Fannir and Freddie, then banks would have had to carry the risk themselves. If the government had not bailed them out, then the banks that had been foolish enough to carry that much risk on their books would have ceased to exist, and the entire banking industry would now be stronger for it! Messing with a complex "ecosystem", like the free market, always ends up with disasterous unforseen consequences.



Those protestors should be in DC. Only there do officials have the power to change the rules of a game, and then use force to make people comply and do business with them. the other silliness is just juvenile class warfare crap.



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[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

And it's ok for the pigs to mace the women once they've already been rounded up?

Are you female? Or just pussy whipped?

[porno jew]

the government is just puppets of wall street. does wall street want to government go away? of course not. they aid and abet their criminal schemes, bail them out when they blow up and use police and military force for protection when the citizens get enraged.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

the government intervention in taking away the risk, through government funded fannie and freddie, that would ordinarily keep lenders from making millions of bad loans in the first place, is a very long one, but note that it was THE GOVERNMENT that bailed them out, with your money. Where are the people who are wishing to do the lynching in washington DC? If the government hadn't offered to buy all that bad paper, through Fannir and Freddie, then banks would have had to carry the risk themselves. If the government had not bailed them out, then the banks that had been foolish enough to carry that much risk on their books would have ceased to exist, and the entire banking industry would now be stronger for it! Messing with a complex "ecosystem", like the free market, always ends up with disasterous unforseen consequences.



Those protestors should be in DC. Only there do officials have the power to change the rules of a game, and then use force to make people comply and do business with them. the other silliness is just juvenile class warfare crap.



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[Caligari]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Those protestors should be in DC. Only there do officials have the power to change the rules of a game, and then use force to make people comply and do business with them. the other silliness is just juvenile class warfare crap.
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don't know if you're aware but the government has no interest to listen to the desires of it's people, so in this case it would appear that the people are taking their message directly to the problem.

the idea that it's the government's fault that they've allowed the wall street fiasco to happen is like saying "it's fine to be corrupt as long as the govt lets me do it."

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Caligari

don't know if you're aware but the government has no interest to listen to the desires of it's people, so in this case it would appear that the people are taking their message directly to the problem.

the idea that it's the government's fault that they've allowed the wall street fiasco to happen is like saying "it's fine to be corrupt as long as the govt lets me do it."

there is no corruption unless the the politicians take the money, and the power, from those who offer it.

the fact is that the government put all the mechanisms into place that allowed this to happen, and they did it for the power and money that it gave to those government officials. If the government was not allowed to meddle in this stuff, then there would be no point in people (from every industry), constantly bribing them with votes and money. The less power we give the government, the less they can screw with things. Like I have said, when a private company wants you to do something, you can just not do business with them by your own choice. and they can choose to not do business with YOU as their own choice. Once the government is involved, choices go away.

Remember, the government officials get offered bribes of power, votes and money because they can legally use force to make us comply. Are you saying that if someone offers your bribes to do something that you don't have the power of will to make a choice as to whether you are going to take it or not? You think these corrupt government officials are just "powerless" to say no to every bribe that comes their way?

If that is your contention, then it's an even stronger arguement for taking power over the free market out of their hands, since they obviously can't be trusted with it.



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[godivabiz]

The problem is, American don't protest like Europeans.... This fuckers go all out... Look what the did in England... We americas are soft.... we got 401K to worry about....

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

there is no corruption unless the the politicians take the money, and the power, from those who offer it.

Remember, the government officials get offered bribes of power, votes and money because they can legally use force to make us comply. Are you saying that if someone offers your bribes to do something that you don't have the power of will to make a choice as to whether you are going to take it or not? You think these corrupt government officials are just "powerless" to say no to every bribe that comes their way?

If that is your contention, then it's an even stronger arguement for taking power over the free market out of their hands, since they obviously can't be trusted with it.

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It's a catch 22 because now wall street is the govt.
Sounds crazy right?
"Governments Don't Rule The World, Goldman Sachs Rules The World"
who said this?
Trader Alessio Rastani this morning on BBC.

The statement came towards the end of an almost three and a half minute interview in which Rastani warned viewers to "get prepared" for the inevitable: 'The savings of millions of people are going to vanish' in less than a year, he said.

'For most traders we don't really care about having a fixed economy, having a fixed situation, our job is to make money from it,' he said. 'Personally, I've been dreaming of this moment for three years. I go to bed every night and I dream of another recession.'

Now let that quote sink in.

'When the market crashes... if you know what to do, if you have the right plan set up, you can make a lot of money from this.'

To the inevitable bottom line. Make money at all costs, even at the cost of your own country, your own world. He is saying this to a miniscule part of the population and he knows it.

Taking regulatory power out of the government's hands and into the hands of these people is like a serial killer giving a black baby to the KKK.

Right now they are one in the same, and this should be of great concern to everyone.

This is what these protestors are on about. There is no "redress of grievances" anymore.

They are taking it to the streets.

[halfpint]

A new way to make $$$ from protesters


https://www.wepay.com/donate/158502

[wdsguy]

a bunch of stupid broke hippies with nothing better to do. Just what this country needs.

[_Lush_]

the slomo version to show which pig did it

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Are you female? Or just pussy whipped?

I'm a dude. I have zero respect for anyone that maces innocent women.