OUCH!!! Burned By Brazzers Alleges Female Performer (Warning: Graphic Pictures)

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

I was hired by director Johnny Thrust aka ********** to shoot a boy/girl scene for Brazzers.com. Prior to the scene, during pretty girl stills, I was positioned in front of an older van. When Thrust was positioning me for stills, my left ankle rubbed against the side tail pipe of the van, resulting in a medium sized burn. At the time, we were in the mountains of Simi Valley.

I requested some kind of assistance, even a bottled water to pour onto the burn. Nothing was readily available. They told me the burn did not look bad, I should finish the scene (or not get paid, even a kill fee) and they would take me to get medical attention following.

The scene was completed. I was expecting to get medical attention, instead I was taken to Porno Dan?s studio for a first aid kit. I immediately requested to be taken home, as i merely consider this the proper medical attention necessary.

At that point, I went to a doctor on my own. Within 2 hours, the top layer of skin had started to bubble and bleed. If I had waited, I would have ran the risk of being exposed to bacterial infections, including the set, van, and studios where I was taken to following the injury.

My burn was second degree in severity and took a total of 6 weeks to fully heal. At that point, I was allowed to shoot 1 scene, at day 35 of my healing process. I suffered the loss of MANY shoots due to this injury. My agent at time of booking (type9) tried to communicate with Brazzers and Johnny Thrust, as well as myself, to no avail, almost 3 months later.

I still have a scar, which I currently am receiving laser therapy and skin grafts for, to minimalize the scars and such. I have an all natural body, girl next door look. I have 1 tattoo and had 0 scars, until now. All I asked for was assistance in the treatment and loss of work. I now have an attorney, and will proceed accordingly.

Day 20:



Ouch! Manwin is really building quite a name for itself and it's brands...

Let me guess? Rogue director?

There is more info about this incident at LIB (I'm not sure if we are allowed to link to LIB).

Hopefully this performer gets the care and assistance that she needs, and the justice that she deserves.

ADG

[NaughtyRob]

Ouch indeed. That looks painful!

[Spunky]

I have some ointment for her

[Socks]

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Day 20:



Ouch! Manwin is really building quite a name for itself and it's brands...

Let me guess? Rogue director?

There is more info about this incident at LIB (I'm not sure if we are allowed to link to LIB).

Hopefully this performer gets the care and assistance that she needs, and the justice that she deserves.

ADG

I had a daylight balanced bulb fall over & broke on my bare ass, cutting & burning me. Sucked.
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[BIGTYMER]

Nice way to treat your talent manwin.

[Mike Honcho]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Hopefully this performer gets the care and assistance that she needs, and the justice that she deserves.

LOL, Take her to CVS and get her some neosporin +pain relief and a box of tissues.

[Socks]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I had a daylight balanced bulb fall over & broke on my bare ass, cutting & burning me. Sucked.
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Just took my kid 2 weeks ago to the hospital because he knocked over a lamp and grabbed the bulb, burned his palm pretty good.

I could tell the lady was grilling me too, like... DID YOU DO THIS TO HIM??!%!?%@ hehe.

I once fell on a woodstove several hours from a hospital with both hands.. My dad didn't take me to a doctor, just ozonol and bandages for a week.. I developed like square inch thick pads of blisters on both palms, maybe 4 or 5 per hand. Had to cross country ski to get to the car.... Fun times.

[Mutt]

with the number of producers and number of shoots they are doing stuff like this is inevitable.

not sure how Manwin and its producers contractually do business but could be her case is against the producer and not Manwin. Do talent get their checks from Manwin or from the producer's company?

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by Mike Honcho

LOL, Take her to CVS and get her some neosporin +pain relief and a box of tissues.

I think that sounds a little like the Brazzers response, however:

How much has all this cost you for Medical treatment? In lost work?

I have already been out thousands in medical expenses. I lost over $10,000 in work when I was off. The laser and skin graft treatment will exceed $15,000.

ADG

[Tempest]

Simply don't understand why someone there wouldn't have a first aid kit in one of their vehicles or even some water... Too many morons pretending to be "professionals".

[Failed]

It's kind of absurd to expect others to take care of you, especially when you're not an employee of the company. If she was concerned, why not end the shoot and take the loss, or call an ambulance?

[DBS.US]

Seen that a few times on girls legs from motorcycle pipes

http://waterjel.com/ Great stuff to keep in the car for time like this.

[2MuchMark]

It's a longshot but she should ask if they have insurance for this kind of thing. If so, it should be very easy for her to collect something for the damage to her body, lack of attention, loss of work etc.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by Failed

It's kind of absurd to expect others to take care of you, especially when you're not an employee of the company. If she was concerned, why not end the shoot and take the loss, or call an ambulance?

Why couldn't whomever was in charge on the Brazzers set show some compassion and put the welfare of the performer first?

Some might argue that the responsibility/priority of a Producer/Director extends beyond getting content, to the welfare of those who are working for them (regardless of whether they are a regular employee or an independent contractor).

ADG

[Failed]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Why couldn't whomever was in charge on the Brazzers set show some compassion and put the welfare of the performer first?

I don't know. If I was in charge, she would of got the medical attention first and then if she felt up to it, we would have finished the shoot. But, if I was her, I wouldn't expect anyone to take care of me, and if I was truly concerned, I would of put my own health before the money.

I just don't believe you can hold anyone accountable, except yourself, in a situation like this.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

Seen that a few times on girls legs from motorcycle pipes

I was with a g/f at Daytona once and we ran into an ex of mine at a bar. The two of them compared identical burn scars from my bike and discussed what an unsympathetic asshole I can be.

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[DBS.US]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I was with a g/f at Daytona once and we ran into an ex of mine at a bar. The two of them compared identical burn scars from my bike and discussed what an unsympathetic asshole I can be.

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But I bet they keep coming back for more

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Failed

I don't know. If I was in charge, she would of got the medical attention first and then if she felt up to it, we would have finished the shoot. But, if I was her, I wouldn't expect anyone to take care of me, and if I was truly concerned, I would of put my own health before the money.

I just don't believe you can hold anyone accountable, except yourself, in a situation like this.

Since this was shot in Calif, I expect Brazzers will be in Hot H2O with OSHA and the local DA. If shoot was not permitted...uh-oh. I am sure her lawyer is all over this like white on rice.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by **********

It's a longshot but she should ask if they have insurance for this kind of thing. If so, it should be very easy for her to collect something for the damage to her body, lack of attention, loss of work etc.

It sounds like she has been trying to contact them to resolve the issue for months now, since she has had to pay for her expenses out of pocket.

Do you have medical insurance?

I do have medical insurance, however, it does not cover work related injuries.

I also would have thought they would have a plan in place to escalate the issue right away to management and their insurance company, not only because it's the right thing to do, but since any kind of legal proceeding will likely cost Brazzers/Manwin even more money.

I'm a small company, yet still I carry millions in liability insurance in case of accidents, etc.

ADG

[drmadcat]

they would not help you i would be pissed thats not good enough

[icymelon]

Originally Posted by Socks

fock buston and glad your getting better.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Failed

Iif I was her, I wouldn't expect anyone to take care of me, and if I was truly concerned, I would of put my own health before the money.
I just don't believe you can hold anyone accountable, except yourself, in a situation like this.

Yep. If I had been that girl I would have said "hold on, I'm going to Walgreens first"

And I would have walked in and grabbed some neosporin and a bandage. Fuck, people get burned on tailpipes on motorcycles all the time without this much crying.

She shoulda ran to the drugstore and did that herself. Then they could have written the bandage into the scene (better than a huge muffler blister)

Oh well...Welcome to the real porn biz Fabian. I'm not sure that writing code for NATS and never actually shooting porn or really getting to know how it's done ever prepared you for all the stupid shit that's gonna start costing you money. Especially since you bragged about how much money you are in control of.

These girls are EXPERTS at turning any situation into a money making one...and you've made yourself a big bullseye.
I'll be chuckling to myself as you deal with headache after headache with your company stretched too thin and trying to take over too much.

[xholly]

disgusting handling of the situation.

should be a clear cut case and robbie that was a dick post that makes you come across as a scumbag.

[Nathan]

Robbie, you can not imagine how much headache this subject has caused me!

It's a cost of doing business, that's just how it is. Accidents happen to the best of us.

Considering that we have done roughly 1500 shoots this year already... oh the headaches! I'm dieing here almost, save me Robbie!

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by xholly

robbie that was a dick post that makes you come across as a scumbag.

I didn't mean for it like that. I'm just saying that if that happened to me...I would go to the drugstore and take care of it. My wife would too. And most adults that I know.

Didn't mean for it to come across in a bad way. Well...except to Fabian, but that's my own personal fun.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by xholly

disgusting handling of the situation.

should be a clear cut case and robbie that was a dick post that makes you come across as a scumbag.

You have heard one side of the story. I have heard both. I can not comment on it though due to legal issues with doing so.

So we'll just see what will come out of this....

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Considering that we have done roughly 1500 shoots this year already... oh the headaches! I'm dieing her almost, save me Robbie!

Just wait! heh-heh

I remember a couple of decades back when I was in between gigs in bands and took a shift as the DJ at a friend of mine's strip club. Wow. I never thought I'd dread seeing hot looking babes dancing naked.

But those girls drove me fucking NUTS with their bullshit.

Just wait...you're gonna have it a thousand times worse.

[xholly]

Originally Posted by Nathan

You have heard one side of the story. I have heard both. I can not comment on it though due to legal issues with doing so.

So we'll just see what will come out of this....

ok fair enough.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Just wait! heh-heh

I remember a couple of decades back when I was in between gigs in bands and took a shift as the DJ at a friend of mine's strip club. Wow. I never thought I'd dread seeing hot looking babes dancing naked.

But those girls drove me fucking NUTS with their bullshit.

Just wait...you're gonna have it a thousand times worse.

Robbie, growing pains...

With fortune comes jealousy...

This thread gave me an idea though, I'll start having our directors film even the still shoot, so in case something happens again we can all watch a video together next time! Won't that be fun?!

[xholly]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I didn't mean for it like that. I'm just saying that if that happened to me...I would go to the drugstore and take care of it. My wife would too. And most adults that I know.

Didn't mean for it to come across in a bad way. Well...except to Fabian, but that's my own personal fun.

ok no worries, its just concerning that so many actual content producers can dismiss their responsibility for people who are working for them. Its called a duty of care, wether they are working for them full time or being contracted, at least in Australia it is like that.

anyway i don't know the whole story so ill just shut up now.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by **********

It's a longshot but she should ask if they have insurance for this kind of thing. If so, it should be very easy for her to collect something for the damage to her body, lack of attention, loss of work etc.

I was waiting for someone to say this. I expect the shooter doesn't. By refusing her hospital or first aid he will likely invalidate his insurance, if he had one.

If the shooter has money, simple answer is to sue him. He's responsible.

Originally Posted by Failed

I don't know. If I was in charge, she would of got the medical attention first and then if she felt up to it, we would have finished the shoot. But, if I was her, I wouldn't expect anyone to take care of me, and if I was truly concerned, I would of put my own health before the money.

I just don't believe you can hold anyone accountable, except yourself, in a situation like this.

So you would of abandoned the shoot and taken her to a hospital. Yes and I'm seeing pigs fly over my house. That was the only option if they had insurance cover. We had it for models and it was stated very clearly for anything but the most minor problems the option was simple, hospital.

In law the shooter is responsible, he should of looked after her. It looks like this was on location, so did the model have transport to get to a hospital?

The scene was completed. I was expecting to get medical attention, instead I was taken to Porno Dan?s studio for a first aid kit. I immediately requested to be taken home, as i merely consider this the proper medical attention necessary.

So a trained person administered first aid or untrained. On whose instructions was she taken to the studio and what was the treatment.

This is going to cost this guy Porno Dan a lot of money.

Are Manwin liable?

Needs a lawyer, who chose the model and location. Who was ultimately employing her, etc?

Advice to Manwin. Get lawyers stuck into this, pay the girl off, sack the shooter, instruct all shooters they must have insurance cover, check up on your insurance cover and liabilities. The insurance companies will instruct people how to react after an accident occurs.

The amazing thing is the shooter carried on shooting a girl who was obviously in pain and had a scar. What level of work was produced?

[Nathan]

Oh BTW, the title of this thread is great too.. typical ADG post, trying to get attention... _burned BY brazzers_ ... lol.. one of the director's crew was holding the VAN up in the air (we have very strong people on our crews!) and pushed it against her ankle! that was how she was burned _BY BRAZZERS_ ... right...

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Nathan

This thread gave me an idea though, I'll start having our directors film even the still shoot, so in case something happens again we can all watch a video together next time! Won't that be fun?!

I've heard of a lot of production companies having a gofer filming the entire filming with a cheap consumer vid cam just in case. I've never done it...but have heard of it.

Might not be a bad idea with so many shoots going on in so many places for your company.

[Nathan]

Paul, thank you so much for the tips, I would not know what to do without you!

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I've heard of a lot of production companies having a gofer filming the entire filming with a cheap consumer vid cam just in case. I've never done it...but have heard of it.

Might not be a bad idea with so many shoots going on in so many places for your company.

Yeah, I think I really need to do this... might produce some awesome behind the scenes footage too

[Just Mike]

Do people get skin grafts and laser removal for 2nd degree burns?

I never thought those type of burns were that bad...I always assumed they just got better over time or with neospoene or medderma.

[porno jew]

the real issue is what kind of bathrooms there is on the outdoor shoots. this all could have been avoided with better washrooms?

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Oh BTW, the title of this thread is great too.. typical ADG post, trying to get attention... _burned BY brazzers_ ... lol.. one of the director's crew was holding the VAN up in the air (we have very strong people on our crews!) and pushed it against her ankle! that was how she was burned _BY BRAZZERS_ ... right...

It's called a double entendre pun:

1) her body was physically burned,

and

2) because she feels that she wasn't taken care of adequately and compensated fairly, she feels "burned" (as in ripped-off / taken advantage of):



Get it now? I hate having to explain humor.

Oh well, I can tell you are sincerely concerned about the health and well-being of your performers, so tell us what kind of flowers you sent Kelly during her recovery?

ADG

[Intrinsic]

did you forget to upload some graphic pictures?

[BIGTYMER]

I hope she gets a big pay day.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by Intrinsic

did you forget to upload some graphic pictures?

No.



This is like teaching ESL (English as a Second Language)...

ADG

[k0nr4d]

hardly the producers fault that she accidently burned herself on a tail pipe, and it's not like getting immediate medical attention is what caused her to take 6 weeks to heal. A burn is a burn and will take time no matter what. There isn't any magical ointment that will heal it overnight.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

hardly the producers fault that she accidently burned herself on a tail pipe, and it's not like getting immediate medical attention is what caused her to take 6 weeks to heal. A burn is a burn and will take time no matter what. There isn't any magical ointment that will heal it overnight.

no there isnt, if it was someone other than Manwin, it would probably be swept under the rug and forgotten

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by JFK

no there isnt, if it was someone other than Manwin, it would probably be swept under the rug and forgotten

See JFK, in the end, this is what makes me proud...

So much hate and jealousy is earned with success... As I said, cost of doing business ;)

[Lykos]

That hurted am sure

[xanadu]

you guys really make me laugh

We should had an award for the best Manwin thread of the year

Burned after Manwin
The 400 toilets
etc etc


Epic threads, even movies could be made.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Nathan

See JFK, in the end, this is what makes me proud...

So much hate and jealousy is earned with success... As I said, cost of doing business ;)

Fabian, not sure if I would be proud of something like this, but the responsibilty, rests with the shooter, who should of acted.

Looks as if they tried, but no to the satisfaction of the model. Been burned plenty of times, tail pipes, wood stoves etc. It's not a very pleasant thing to go thru, but it does heal after a while.

Never yet got a skin graft

I think the situation is being overblown , because they shot for you.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by xanadu

you guys really make me laugh

We should had an award for the best Manwin thread of the year

Burned after Manwin
The 400 toilets
etc etc


Epic threads, even movies could be made.

I'd shoot it for you, but then you would get burned or something and sue me and because it was about Manwin sue them as well

[Nathan]

Never said I'm proud of this accident happening... I said there is always 2 sides to a story and that I am proud of things like this being overblown since its a sign of success.