In the House of HOMEGROWN... (PIX)

[Far-L]

I have ranted on this subject before so sorry to beat off a dead horse... and sound like a record broken over the heads of those I just want to call bullshit on but can't. Way too often I find myself looking at pic threads from companies trying to spam their updates and acting like the girls are so insanely hot, and seeing a gaggle of syncophant affiliates lavishing praises like the emporor got when he walked down mainstreet without any clothes on.

So I figure I better put my money... actually your money... I mean the money you could actually be making on the line and show you the sort of amateurs that Homegrown thinks are hot.

Hopefully I can respectfully demonstrate the what, why, and how of the "XXX" factor that makes Homegrown "the longest running series in the history of porn".

Case in point:

"Ex GF" content... we all know it should have that "shot at home" vibe. But seriously, so much of it doesn't look like the people are having fun, the chick's pussy isn't wet, etc. when really the whole hook of "exgf" is to make everyone pine for those days when the sex was wild, and fun, and she actually was attracted to you still... in our mind, that looks more like this -



And who else always gets that "if she is 18 then I own the majority of Facebook" feeling here all too often? At Homegrown, we pride ourselves on truth and reality and authentic so for us, "18" looks like this -



But seriously, most critically... shouldn't people doing this stuff actually look like they are having fun? We don't people to look like they are about to be forced into it or face some sort of awful consequences like the threat of three days of gangbanging anal sex before deportation into the sex slave industry.

REAL SMILES. REAL ENTHUSIASM. Because amateur porns believe it or not know the difference even if many webmasters seem oblivious to the fact.

For example -

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Far-L

I have ranted on this subject before so sorry to beat off a dead horse... and sound like a record broken over the heads of those I just want to call bullshit on but can't. Way too often I find myself looking at pic threads from companies trying to spam their updates and acting like the girls are so insanely hot, and seeing a gaggle of syncophant affiliates lavishing praises like the emporor got when he walked down mainstreet without any clothes on.

couldn't agree more and I'll add this as well, truly great looking models that convert and retain are seriously dissed here by very same said bromosexuals

[FlexxAeon]

ex gf is more 'voyeur' than 'amateur' in terms of categorization. you're not supposed to be looking at your ex, you're looking at someone elses

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

ex gf is more 'voyeur' than 'amateur' in terms of categorization. you're not supposed to be looking at your ex, you're looking at someone elses

Good point. Never looked at it that way.

[Far-L]

You keep the fans happy with compelling content, unique and unusual.



Outside the norm but seems normal in a way fans appreciate, and amateur porn fans are every bit as rabid as WWE fans...



At the end of the day, amateur porn should be about something we can all relate to...

[looky_lou]

Hot is as much about personality and attitude as looks. I agree

[Robbie]

Hot stuff! And my cock shot straight up over this girl:

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

ex gf is more 'voyeur' than 'amateur' in terms of categorization. you're not supposed to be looking at your ex, you're looking at someone elses

Great point but that is still just a different take as the same desire of "the grass is always greener" and "spy on the Jones" or the perhaps of "maybe you will find your ex there" and regardless any way that you approach the niche is about closing the sale with an image that actually backs up the hype of the text-clamations.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

couldn't agree more and I'll add this as well, truly great looking models that convert and retain are seriously dissed here by very same said bromosexuals

Good point. They would probably be the same ones to never understand that "MILF" looks not so much like a washed up shriveled by meth fake titty almost ex porn star about to be full time addict-ho and actually looks more like a healthy, happy, and huge floppybig boobed picture of curvaceous womanhood splendor like this -

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Good point. They would probably be the same ones to never understand that "MILF" looks not so much like a washed up shriveled by meth fake titty almost ex porn star about to be full time addict-ho and actually looks more like a healthy, happy, and huge floppybig boobed picture of curvaceous womanhood splendor like this -

couldn't agree more.... some of the models I see that are getting GREAT comments from the members would be totally laughed off GFY by the bros for sure... I figure these guys aren't making any money, at least not off porn

[FlexxAeon]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Great point but that is still just a different take as the same desire of "the grass is always greener" and "spy on the Jones" or the perhaps of "maybe you will find your ex there" and regardless any way that you approach the niche is about closing the sale with an image that actually backs up the hype of the text-clamations.

perhaps. amateur and exgf are parallel in those ways you mentioned, but they differ in an equal amount (if not more). exgf is supposed to promise little more than "the images you weren't supposed to see!" and then the consumers fantasies take over from there. when it gets extra "pose-y," wet pussies, girls having a great time, etc... it morphs from exgf into amateur

[porno jew]

cute chicks but killed it with tubbo there.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by porno jew

cute chicks but killed it with tubbo there.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

perhaps. amateur and exgf are parallel in those ways you mentioned, but they differ in an equal amount (if not more). exgf is supposed to promise little more than "the images you weren't supposed to see!" and then the consumers fantasies take over from there. when it gets extra "pose-y," wet pussies, girls having a great time, etc... it morphs from exgf into amateur

Well, please understand that I just see the totality of "AMATEUR" and its huge variety of sub-niches, of which "exgf" is just one of many - we ourselves have a library representing over 40 of them.

All amateur to me is based on that voyeur aspect that you originally mentioned. I agree that "exgf" that looks posed fails, but with respect to it looking like the people are having fun... that is critical. Because if it is actual content shot with an ex then we all know that is only going to happen in reality when things are at a certain place in a relationship. Making a true homemade sex tape with someone doesn't usually involve a stranger hired for a shoot if you catch my drift.

Just saying, amateur sub-niche is something we get...

Like girls first shoots before they go on to become big stars...

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by porno jew

cute chicks but killed it with tubbo there.

Sorry you feel that way. I would've figured you for one that would have appriciated the income potential over the personal predilictions like a true professional... but hopefully this will help you get over the pic if it bugged you that much...

[FlexxAeon]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Well, please understand that I just see the totality of "AMATEUR" and its huge variety of sub-niches, of which "exgf" is just one of many - we ourselves have a library representing over 40 of them.

All amateur to me is based on that voyeur aspect that you originally mentioned. I agree that "exgf" that looks posed fails, but with respect to it looking like the people are having fun... that is critical. Because if it is actual content shot with an ex then we all know that is only going to happen in reality when things are at a certain place in a relationship. Making a true homemade sex tape with someone doesn't usually involve a stranger hired for a shoot if you catch my drift.

Just saying, amateur sub-niche is something we get...

Like girls first shoots before they go on to become big stars...

i guess we could debate the points for days. i'm with you on some points though. but i'm no crusader for exgf so i digress

now how about some nice housewife pics??

[FlexxAeon]

Originally Posted by porno jew

cute chicks but killed it with tubbo there.

i'd wreck 'tubbo'

[12clicks]

I'm oddly attracted to this Far-L

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

i guess we could debate the points for days. i'm with you on some points though. but i'm no crusader for exgf so i digress

now how about some nice housewife pics??

Debate is healthy and I think your comments are wise so sorry if I didn't come off appreciative of your input.

Ask and ye shall recieve...

but are you talking pre-milf hot wife housewife?



or milf type house wife? Who might also have one helluva hairy bush because truth be told... most real milf housewives don't really have time from dealing with daily life to think about keeping the bush neat and trim as a debutante porn star former stripper might...

[FlexxAeon]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Debate is healthy and I think your comments are wise so sorry if I didn't come off appreciative of your input.

nah i didn't take it that way at all... i know that you are a master-debater.

Originally Posted by Far-L

but are you talking pre-milf hot wife housewife? or milf type house wife?

long as it's not "real housewives of ________" housewife! ....that's a whole other niche

thanks for the pics

[Far-L]

Never let it be said that we aren't capable of being hardcore either...

[GetSCORECash]

Great post but you should also give thanks to the photographers and video shooters like Mike Dunn who understand this niche and submit to you.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by GetSCORECash

Great post but you should also give thanks to the photographers and video shooters like Mike Dunn who understand this niche and submit to you.

Yep, quite right... everyone does deserve credit. From the more professional pro-am style producers we work with to the mom and pop saturday night and a six pack amateurs, there are so many over our 30 year span that to single one out seems unfair to the rest.

I love them all but, personally, one of my favorites is Emslie. I bow to his genius and kiss the ground three times for the beauty and friendship of his wonderful model Jewel, one of his submittals too and a rare set of her outside of MetArt and her own site:

[Far-L]

We also make it really clear to our members what content is that which I would call "true amateur" as in user submitted probably the only video that they will ever make type submissions vs the never ever seen before first timers shot by very capable and technically savvy pro-am style producers. If we ever tried to bull shit them they would march into our offices and smack us in the balls until they turned black and blue and unable to spew.

Pro-am:



True Am, as in shot on a tripod and no one taking stills and want to use masks and wigs since they have white collar day jobs at major tech companies in places like Menlo Park and Palo Alto:



I guess I would want to show the world my dick if it were that big and my girl had amazing boobs like that too..

[lagwagon]

Some old school Danielle right there

[Sabby]

Far-L is still around. Are these all your ex-girlfriends?


Sabby

[boneprone]

LOL. A memory just popped into my head seeing this.
It was at my Uncles place in Portland. I walked downstairs and there was Far-L with a video camera in his hand and a gal on her knees blowing him.

He was sweating like a mad man..

"Hey bone, come over here and help me"

He hands me the camera to hold as she finishes him off.

I lol-ed..


"hey lets not mention this to uncle danny"

BP4L
Good times.

[Chosen]

Originally Posted by boneprone

LOL. A memory just popped into my head seeing this.
It was at my Uncles place in Portland. I walked downstairs and there was Far-L with a video camera in his hand and a gal on her knees blowing him.

He was sweating like a mad man..

"Hey bone, come over here and help me"

He hands me the camera to hold as she finishes him off.

I lol-ed..


"hey lets not mention this to uncle danny"

BP4L
Good times.

Vids or it didn't happen

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Yep, quite right... everyone does deserve credit. From the more professional pro-am style producers we work with to the mom and pop saturday night and a six pack amateurs, there are so many over our 30 year span that to single one out seems unfair to the rest.

I love them all but, personally, one of my favorites is Emslie. I bow to his genius and kiss the ground three times for the beauty and friendship of his wonderful model Jewel, one of his submittals too and a rare set of her outside of MetArt and her own site:

John is a great guy and that's a fact

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Chosen

Vids or it didn't happen

It definitely happened. And he is not kidding, my buddy Lincoln rented that space from his uncle, and the proof is actually already posted. That girl with cum on her face was the girl at that party and Boneprone did hold the camera so I didn't have to be distracted by the concern that my sweating all over it would impair its functionality.

That is what it means to be BP4L for life... a bro will always be there to help you hold the camera when it is time to shoot some porn.

And a great way to stay clean and healthy...

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Hot stuff! And my cock shot straight up over this girl:

Great looking girl.. And It makes me think back to the days with one of my ex gf's.. Sadly out of the several K photos we took while doing things like that I never recall them being taken by a third party.. They were pov.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Sabby

Far-L is still around. Are these all your ex-girlfriends?


Sabby

No, merely practice... training films to help me master the pleasure arts that I may one day be worthy of your bed,found parked in the land of milk and honey, and actually a spacecraft powered by the energy of our lovemaking, which will carry us to a place called Nirvana.

Which is a place so hot it will sunburn your boobies...



This girl has sold so many memberships we erected a statue of her in our main office and juice pours from her nipples.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Great looking girl.. And It makes me think back to the days with one of my ex gf's.. Sadly out of the several K photos we took while doing things like that I never recall them being taken by a third party.. They were pov.

Yeah, the real stuff most often doesn't even have photos. Just tripod video which one can only take frame grabs from. But we do get threesome true home made stuff too and then there might be a few stills. We see it all. And the point I am trying to make is we know the difference. These days, even handheld POV usually connotes a certain degree of "pro-ness" for the most part.

But just so we are both on the same page, I will show you another example of what the real thing usually looks like:



"honey, am I getting it all?"

[OY]

Orlando still comes to mind when you are on topic.... :-)

[seeandsee]

i dont like webcam shows, i like more amateur stuff, real amateur filming their shit...

[Kenny B!]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

couldn't agree more.... some of the models I see that are getting GREAT comments from the members would be totally laughed off GFY by the bros for sure... I figure these guys aren't making any money, at least not off porn

When it comes to great amateur/selfshot content most webmaters think like webmasters and not like surfers, which is a big mistake that's being made.

[John-ACWM]

Nice second pic!

[backlinks.us]

She is hot! Nice face and tits. I bet she sold many memberships yeah, would get my money for sure

Originally Posted by Far-L

No, merely practice... training films to help me master the pleasure arts that I may one day be worthy of your bed,found parked in the land of milk and honey, and actually a spacecraft powered by the energy of our lovemaking, which will carry us to a place called Nirvana.

Which is a place so hot it will sunburn your boobies...



This girl has sold so many memberships we erected a statue of her in our main office and juice pours from her nipples.

[Far-L]

I didn't say those examples were webcam videos. We don't buy those per se but I would say that webcam videos nowadays are closer to what I would call "True Amateur" than a lot of what I see being passed off as "amateur" or "exgf".

My notion is based on seeing what true OG amateur looks like, since we are probably the only company with a library of VINTAGE amateur... from the heydey, the Golden Age of Amateur.

Oftentimes, real amateur porn archeologists can date stuff by the hairstyles, or the spandex...

[camsvipdotcom]

keep 'em coming

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by camsvipdotcom

keep 'em coming

I am happy to oblige... but where do you want them to cum? On the belly?

[will76]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

couldn't agree more.... some of the models I see that are getting GREAT comments from the members would be totally laughed off GFY by the bros for sure... I figure these guys aren't making any money, at least not off porn

It all depends what niche you are promoting when it comes down to it.


People here who laugh off a particular girl, for example a little over weight girl next door type, probably laugh her off because that is not their personal preference or not a niche they promote. However, I can take the same girl and promote her to people who like chubby amateurs and make a lot money.

[Far-L]

Or did you mean a facial?

[halfpint]

Far-L your link is broken in your sig "Homegrown Video"

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by halfpint

Far-L your link is broken in your sig "Homegrown Video"

Fuck! My bad! Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Link fixed. And I owe you a pic for pointing it out what a bubble head I am....

[Rochard]

This chick is smoking hot!

[media]

Originally Posted by boneprone

LOL. A memory just popped into my head seeing this.
It was at my Uncles place in Portland. I walked downstairs and there was Far-L with a video camera in his hand and a gal on her knees blowing him.

He was sweating like a mad man..

"Hey bone, come over here and help me"

He hands me the camera to hold as she finishes him off.

I lol-ed..


"hey lets not mention this to uncle danny"

BP4L
Good times.

Hahaha, memories...

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by will76

It all depends what niche you are promoting when it comes down to it.


People here who laugh off a particular girl, for example a little over weight girl next door type, probably laugh her off because that is not their personal preference or not a niche they promote. However, I can take the same girl and promote her to people who like chubby amateurs and make a lot money.

Thank you. People that understand the difference are the kind of people that do best with us. You don't know how many years I have put up with reviews basically criticizing us for being "too amateur" and wishing we had content that is so freaking generic. Especially in this day and age, with the wealth of free content, you actually need to have something that people can't see everywhere else - you know what I am talking about.

Like people in "the lifestyle", or swingers... or whatever label you want to put on them, you can't fake that stuff to the fans. A webmaster needs to be able to see the difference through a different lens than "what I personally like".



(Anyone ever notice how real "shot at home" content actually looks like it was shot in someone's home?)

[media]

Originally Posted by Far-L

It definitely happened. And he is not kidding, my buddy Lincoln rented that space from his uncle, and the proof is actually already posted. That girl with cum on her face was the girl at that party and Boneprone did hold the camera so I didn't have to be distracted by the concern that my sweating all over it would impair its functionality.

That is what it means to be BP4L for life... a bro will always be there to help you hold the camera when it is time to shoot some porn.

And a great way to stay clean and healthy...

I totally remember that night.. I think I was shooting some stills for you.. That was the night when the male model couldn't get it up so you had to step in and save the entire shoot.. HIGH FIVE!

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by media

I totally remember that night.. I think I was shooting some stills for you.. That was the night when the male model couldn't get it up so you had to step in and save the entire shoot.. HIGH FIVE!

lol, yep... it is all coming back to me... like a hit of acid from 1984...

But you don't get to the top without stepping in to stunt cock every now and again when duty calls...