A paysite that converts tube traffic 1:88

[alf6300]

Ok guys,
it's little sample size so it may be a lucky shot.

Bullshitters usually get caught, so I'll tell you exactly what happened:
1. we launched a new paysite
2. we uploaded a first promo clip to a tube (one of the largest ones, no niche)
3. the promo got about 300 clicks and made 4 sales (i.e. real sales, not trials)

I am quite sure that the conversion will go down (the overall conversion including junk traffic is actually 1:384 since launch)

However, even if it then gets twice or three times worse than 1:88, with tube type of traffic, I will still be happy.


I believe affiliates who jump fast on promoting this will be very happy too - especially if they have more targeted traffic than a generic large tube :-)

The site is ready for affiliate promotion, with tools, FLVs, hosted and whatnot. New promo FLVs are added almost everyday. The site itself updates twice a week.

PS: I know that Paul may say: "Big failure, it means that 87 users out of 88 did not buy, the Internet is doomed". Ok.

PS2:
The site is AmateurLapdancer.com, and has just been launched in our program. Yes, I *expect* competitors to come up with imitations after this post. (But i will benefit from affiliates more than I may be harmed by competitors, so I chose to share this info with you.)

PS3:
I know I will be asked for a screenshot of what I said, so I preempt the request.

[NetHorse]

"Welcome to my little fun world"

Wordpress paysite!!

Nice ratios though, what tube site did you upload it to?

[BIGTYMER]

Wordpress paysites convert good for me.

[Ramirez]

How did you made a Wordpress paysite? are you an affiliate of a big paysite or you shoot your own porn, can someone please explain it to me.

[Jakez]

I lol'd. But you never know what works until you try it.

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Wordpress paysites convert good for me.

ditto.
A/B tested WP vs. classic tour models, elevatedx type of things, and the "open" model, where everybody sees everything but only members can get the stuff, just converts better.

plus, your chargebacks will drop.

i guess it depends on the content/niche of the sites, though. what is true for amateur may not be true for glamour porn.

if i keep the current conversions, i won't touch a single thing on this site

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by Ramirez

How did you made a Wordpress paysite?

WP sits on top of a custom script that opens up the content after you pay and become a member.
We tried this open model before, and it works really well (it's not our invention, other sites do it too...)

Originally Posted by Ramirez

are you an affiliate of a big paysite or you shoot your own porn, can someone please explain it to me.

All the content for all the sites in our program is custom-shot and exclusive. Check out the program at: www.candidlooks.com

You also get hosted FLVs with daily updates, embeds for blogs, mass import and plenty of other tools.

shoot me a mail if something is not clear!

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by NetHorse

Nice ratios though, what tube site did you upload it to?

xhamster

[CurrentlySober]

Nothing wrong with using WP...

[seeandsee]

you won the tube game, now move to other tubes

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

you won the tube game, now move to other tubes

My 2c: if a site converts really well with a simple test-promo on generic tubes, it will convert awesomely for affiliates with a bit of targeted traffic.

That's why I am looking for affiliates...

(If I believed that promo-tube traffic was key, I wouldn't be here posting this). You can give it a try and report back

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by Jakez

I lol'd. But you never know what works until you try it.

[CurrentlySober]

i cant afford A paysite that converts tube traffic 1:88...

But heres a bump 4 you anyway !

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

i cant afford A paysite that converts tube traffic 1:88...

But heres a bump 4 you anyway !

Thanks bud, much appreciated
Always been a fan of you, keep up the good poo

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by alf6300

WP sits on top of a custom script that opens up the content after you pay and become a member.
We tried this open model before, and it works really well (it's not our invention, other sites do it too...)



All the content for all the sites in our program is custom-shot and exclusive. Check out the program at: www.candidlooks.com

You also get hosted FLVs with daily updates, embeds for blogs, mass import and plenty of other tools.

shoot me a mail if something is not clear!

also replied to your email. let me know!

[The Porn Nerd]

Try uploading that same vid to YouPorn or any of the PornHub family of tubes and see what'cha get. I wouldn't go dancing just yet. XHamster only keeps the vids on the Homepage for like 15-30 minutes. LOL Try a site where you can get 20k+ views and see how sales are. If you rock on those tubes you got a winner. XHamster is VERY specific and, in my experience, does not translate to other tubes.

Either way, best of luck man!!!

[Argos88]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Try uploading that same vid to YouPorn or any of the PornHub family of tubes and see what'cha get. I wouldn't go dancing just yet. XHamster only keeps the vids on the Homepage for like 15-30 minutes. LOL Try a site where you can get 20k+ views and see how sales are. If you rock on those tubes you got a winner. XHamster is VERY specific and, in my experience, does not translate to other tubes.

Either way, best of luck man!!!

hmmm, u seem to have a lot of experience with tube submissions.

how many tubes do you submit to?

[Argos88]

Originally Posted by alf6300

xhamster

I just checked that site and when you upload the video, they DO NOT LET you ADD any link.

SO.. How is an average affiliate promoting your SITE supposed to make money??

They also do not allow any kind of watermarks in VIDEOS.

SO?? How are we supposed to make money with tube submissions when there is no way to tell the surfer go to my BLOG/SITE to join the paysite???

[DEA]

Originally Posted by alf6300

WP sits on top of a custom script that opens up the content after you pay and become a member.
We tried this open model before, and it works really well (it's not our invention, other sites do it too...)


!

Any tips on where to get a script like this? thanks

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by Argos88

I just checked that site and when you upload the video, they DO NOT LET you ADD any link.

SO.. How is an average affiliate promoting your SITE supposed to make money??

They also do not allow any kind of watermarks in VIDEOS.

SO?? How are we supposed to make money with tube submissions when there is no way to tell the surfer go to my BLOG/SITE to join the paysite???

wow are you slow. http://info.xvideos.com/

Self-Service Traffic For Content Owners

We can give a lot of exposure to your content, and send traffic to your sites, through our channel system. What we call a channel is a set of text ads that can be linked to any video. After uploading a video, you can select your own channel in the list so that your ads be displayed on your videos.

To get started, best is to upload a few videos first, then contact us through this email form to request to have your sites added to the system. It is best to upload videos that are 5 minutes and up in length.

no watermarks either?

http://www.xvideos.com/video871002/t...sex_freak_4of4

c'mon man you can't be that simple.

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by porno jew

wow are you slow. http://info.xvideos.com/

Self-Service Traffic For Content Owners

We can give a lot of exposure to your content, and send traffic to your sites, through our channel system. What we call a channel is a set of text ads that can be linked to any video. After uploading a video, you can select your own channel in the list so that your ads be displayed on your videos.

To get started, best is to upload a few videos first, then contact us through this email form to request to have your sites added to the system. It is best to upload videos that are 5 minutes and up in length.

no watermarks either?

http://www.xvideos.com/video871002/t...sex_freak_4of4

c'mon man you can't be that simple.

pornojew,
when you have time can you hit me on icq or via mail? we have a couple of things pending with xvideos (no drama, just want to sort out )

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by FORGOTMYSCREENNAME

Any tips on where to get a script like this? thanks

it's fairly simple to do custom if you know a bit of coding. hit me up if you need pointers on where to start, happy to help

[Argos88]

Originally Posted by porno jew

wow are you slow. http://info.xvideos.com/

Self-Service Traffic For Content Owners

We can give a lot of exposure to your content, and send traffic to your sites, through our channel system. What we call a channel is a set of text ads that can be linked to any video. After uploading a video, you can select your own channel in the list so that your ads be displayed on your videos.

To get started, best is to upload a few videos first, then contact us through this email form to request to have your sites added to the system. It is best to upload videos that are 5 minutes and up in length.

no watermarks either?

http://www.xvideos.com/video871002/t...sex_freak_4of4

c'mon man you can't be that simple.

You really need glasses, JEW CIRCUMSICED SMALL PENIS IDIOT..

The guy is talking about XHAMSTER... NOT XVIDEOS.. You really are retarded, dont you, ASSHOLE ?

SO AGAIN, I make the same question for alf6300 who did not answer my question..

Can you answer alf6300???

You came here posting that YOUR SITES convert with XHAMSTER traffic and telling people to join your program and submit to tubes to make money.

But how the hell are they going to make money when XHAMSTER does not allow any links, or WATERMARKS???

If you do money as a CONTENT OWNER, great... But why do you search affiliates and tell them to jouin your program because XHAMSTER SEND YOU SALES??

I just checked that site and when you upload the video, they DO NOT LET you ADD any link.

SO.. How is an average affiliate promoting your SITE supposed to make money??

They also do not allow any kind of watermarks in VIDEOS.

SO?? How are we supposed to make money with tube submissions when there is no way to tell the surfer go to my BLOG/SITE to join the paysite???

no wonder the business is destroyed when there are retarded people with a 10 IQ level like porno jew, who waste 12 hours per day in this forum.. obviously he doesn't make any cash at all.. otherwise he would be working hard on the background and not waste 12 hours per day SPAMMING the forum.. the fucker is on every sinhle thread.. WTF.. how can someone have so much time to WASTE ?

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Argos88

You really need glasses, JEW CIRCUMSICED SMALL PENIS IDIOT..

The guy is talking about XHAMSTER... NOT XVIDEOS.. You really are retarded, dont you, ASSHOLE ?

SO AGAIN, I make the same question for alf6300 who did not answer my question..

Can you answer alf6300???

You came here posting that YOUR SITES convert with XHAMSTER traffic and telling people to join your program and submit to tubes to make money.

But how the hell are they going to make money when XHAMSTER does not allow any links, or WATERMARKS???

If you do money as a CONTENT OWNER, great... But why do you search affiliates and tell them to jouin your program because XHAMSTER SEND YOU SALES??

I just checked that site and when you upload the video, they DO NOT LET you ADD any link.

SO.. How is an average affiliate promoting your SITE supposed to make money??

They also do not allow any kind of watermarks in VIDEOS.

SO?? How are we supposed to make money with tube submissions when there is no way to tell the surfer go to my BLOG/SITE to join the paysite???

no wonder the business is destroyed when there are retarded people with a 10 IQ level like porno jew, who waste 12 hours per day in this forum.. obviously he doesn't make any cash at all.. otherwise he would be working hard on the background and not waste 12 hours per day SPAMMING the forum.. the fucker is on every sinhle thread.. WTF.. how can someone have so much time to WASTE ?

Are you serious? That has to be one of the most dumbass posts I've seen this year.

[The Porn Nerd]

Argos88: I submit to the "big ten" tubes, plus about 300 others using Tube Site Submitter tho I am unhappy with those results (many of the 300 tubes have little to no traffic/views so are almost worthless to me). The big tubes you will see many PeabodyCash sites.

As far as the question you asked another poster I think I can answer: you CANNOT make money, AS AN AFFILIATE, submitting to the big tube sites so stop bothering. you need to be a Content Partner or, if you make arrangements with your Sponser to be the de facto Content partner, fine. But just an 'average" affiliate who downloads the promo vids for tubes off of a program? No. Those videos are there in case you run your OWN tube site.

Hope that helps.

[porno jew]

ok they have the same thing moron http://xhamster.com/sponsor_join.php

example http://xhamster.com/movies/862778/ki...ng_cunt.ht ml

Originally Posted by Argos88

You really need glasses, JEW CIRCUMSICED SMALL PENIS IDIOT..

The guy is talking about XHAMSTER... NOT XVIDEOS.. You really are retarded, dont you, ASSHOLE ?

SO AGAIN, I make the same question for alf6300 who did not answer my question..

Can you answer alf6300???

You came here posting that YOUR SITES convert with XHAMSTER traffic and telling people to join your program and submit to tubes to make money.

But how the hell are they going to make money when XHAMSTER does not allow any links, or WATERMARKS???

If you do money as a CONTENT OWNER, great... But why do you search affiliates and tell them to jouin your program because XHAMSTER SEND YOU SALES??

I just checked that site and when you upload the video, they DO NOT LET you ADD any link.

SO.. How is an average affiliate promoting your SITE supposed to make money??

They also do not allow any kind of watermarks in VIDEOS.

SO?? How are we supposed to make money with tube submissions when there is no way to tell the surfer go to my BLOG/SITE to join the paysite???

no wonder the business is destroyed when there are retarded people with a 10 IQ level like porno jew, who waste 12 hours per day in this forum.. obviously he doesn't make any cash at all.. otherwise he would be working hard on the background and not waste 12 hours per day SPAMMING the forum.. the fucker is on every sinhle thread.. WTF.. how can someone have so much time to WASTE ?

[Jel]

and by this year, I mean ever.

[mattz]

don't you have any banners?

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Argos88: I submit to the "big ten" tubes, plus about 300 others using Tube Site Submitter tho I am unhappy with those results (many of the 300 tubes have little to no traffic/views so are almost worthless to me). The big tubes you will see many PeabodyCash sites.

As far as the question you asked another poster I think I can answer: you CANNOT make money, AS AN AFFILIATE, submitting to the big tube sites so stop bothering. you need to be a Content Partner or, if you make arrangements with your Sponser to be the de facto Content partner, fine. But just an 'average" affiliate who downloads the promo vids for tubes off of a program? No. Those videos are there in case you run your OWN tube site.

Hope that helps.

Argos88: what the great MisterPeabody said.

You may not see the option to add your affiliation links when you try to upload as a "user", but all the major tubes have options for sponsors to add them. You need to be a sponsor/content partner to do so, though. (In that sense, the tubes are the affiliates)

Ps: as far as your insults to Porno Jew, in your previous post - it seems you are having a bad day and that happens. In general, insults can be fun on this board, but I recommend to choose them in better taste whenever possible

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by mattz

don't you have any banners?

sure, banners in any size, matter and taste
what formats do you need bud? i can send them directly to you if you don't find them

[Argos88]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Argos88: I submit to the "big ten" tubes, plus about 300 others using Tube Site Submitter tho I am unhappy with those results (many of the 300 tubes have little to no traffic/views so are almost worthless to me). The big tubes you will see many PeabodyCash sites.

As far as the question you asked another poster I think I can answer: you CANNOT make money, AS AN AFFILIATE, submitting to the big tube sites so stop bothering. you need to be a Content Partner or, if you make arrangements with your Sponser to be the de facto Content partner, fine. But just an 'average" affiliate who downloads the promo vids for tubes off of a program? No. Those videos are there in case you run your OWN tube site.

Hope that helps.

Thanks man, finally a serious answer.

Now the question is how the heck can affiliates make money?

If tubes only accept content from sponsors.

Building a massive tube is not possible, because 1% of companies own the HUGE TUBES after investing millions in them...

So, what is left for affiliates?

Or average affiliates have no place anymore in this business?

And for alf6300, why did you created this thread? To get affiliates to promtoe your program?

And if the affiliates has no tube? realyl wondering.

And as for the insults. people get what they deserve.. and that guy "porno-SOAP" definitely deserves that and more.

[alf6300]

Argos88:
There is plenty of affiliates around that make really good money, tubes or not. In any industry there are some who fail and some who succeed.

I hope I don't sound harsh, but the industry is really not a charity - and it's not stipulated anywhere that 'any' affiliate should make money, no matter what (s)he does.

It's a matter of business interest, from any side: and from my 'own interest' side, I personally believe that affiliates are still *absolutely* key for any program to succeed or fail in this business. (That's why I try to get as many as possible, retain as many as possible, treat them as good as possible. But not for charity reasons, just because a great relationship with them is critical for me.)

Why I started this thread, you ask. Read my post: tube traffic is tipically converting worse than targeted/affiliate traffic, so if a site converts well on tubes it is reasonable to expect that it will do even better with non-tube traffic: an opportunity for affiliates, and of course for the program too.

All the sponsors use tubes. Many try to work only with the ones who will react to a DMCA - but if you think that it is possible for anyone in 2011 to "just ignore all tubes, no matter what", then you are ignoring reality, I'm afraid.

Just my . If you want to try to promote our program, I will give you all the support, as to other affiliates, in order to prove that 'there is still money in porn'. And there is.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by Argos88

And as for the insults. people get what they deserve.. and that guy "porno-SOAP" definitely deserves that and more.

Ah, so the 88 in your nick does mean that...

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Try a site where you can get 20k+ views and see how sales are. If you rock on those tubes you got a winner.

yep, we upload promos to all the major ones for all our sites. xhamster in my experience is usually not the best converting one. So we'll see how much a winner this is, but looks promising.

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Either way, best of luck man!!!

thanks man, same to you!