GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Americans - tipping etiguette? (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1037488)

Grapesoda 09-10-2011 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18416920)
Thanks everyone.

I asked the question so that I would not short change people. I understand the minimum wages is absurd in the states.

In Australia we only tip if the service is fantastic, so it's not part of the way we do things at all. Here it seems to be the norm to hand over $1 bills to everyone.

Now the next question - what in the fuck is the use of these 1cent fucking coins? I just leave the fucking things on the counter.

I tip very well, say $5-$10+ depending on the bill.. or I'll round it off... if the nut is $24, I'll go to $30 etc...and the reason being I tend to eat at the same places in my area on a regular basis and I get great service. sometimes if I have a good week I'll even grab the check from another table and pay it as well.... then split before the other tale finds out I did... usually families with kids... once i left a $100 tip and the manager ran after me because he thought the waiter was trying to scam the bill ;)

Barefootsies 09-10-2011 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18417095)
I'll even grab the check from another table and pay it as well.... then split before the other tale finds out I did... usually families with kids... once i left a $100 tip


Chris 09-10-2011 06:32 AM

10% if they didnt fuck up the order and just brought me our food

15% if they did a good job and made sure we had everything and didnt make us wait for anything

20% if i really enjoyed my self

30% if it is a higher end resturant

Nikki_Licks 09-10-2011 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 18416701)
Hmm, well that sucks, I would have done the same thing. I was always blessed to work at higher end establishments. My guest check averages were maybe 40-60 bucks a person. I worked with professionals and usually servers who do shitty jobs do not enjoy what they do.

I, on the other hand, really did. Wine service, wine recommendations, table side service, crumbers, the whole spiel. And thankfully, I rarely had under 15 percent tips. 18-20+ percent was the norm. Also, as a foot fetishist, it was cool to look at all of the rich women's feet and shit, lmfao. I dunno..., if your older and have been in the service industry, you will usually try to gain the experience and stuff to work at nicer establishments, for the clientele.

yep, it does. This was the second time we had this person. The first time was for lunch and she sucked ass totally and I told my wife we would never sit in her section again.

The second time we went, it was Valentines Day. When we were seated, I noticed we had this same person. Even though I was very reluctant to sit in her section, my wife said lets give her another chance as she might have been having a shitty day the last time we were there, so I agreed....bad mistake.

We now sit in the section of the girl that took care of things prior and we have another waitress or two that are our fav's. We did find out that we are not the only customers that complain about her service.

If I were management, I would have let this person go along time ago. I be sure each time we go to mentioned we do not want to be seated in that persons section.

On another note, I usually tip 20% if the service is good. I was once a waiter and know how hard it is to make a living off of tips, but on the other hand, I can tell when you are a shitty server......:2 cents:

bronco67 09-10-2011 07:06 AM

I tip $10 usually. That's 5 bucks for each butt cheek.

rogueteens 09-10-2011 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 18417071)
I still don't get why the customer should have to make up the wages though. Surely that's not their problem ?? Food etc is expensive enough, so another "tip" on top of that seems strange to me.

If you feel like giving a tip, then fine. And the amount should be up to you. That's how it works over here.

With the shitty service most places, hardly anyone gets a tip from me mind you...

I agree, I don't understand why you customers are expected to make up the shortfall in their wages. You have a strange system over there.

IllTestYourGirls 09-10-2011 07:12 AM

If your base tip for dinner is not 20% you're an asshole.

woj 09-10-2011 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 18416701)
Hmm, well that sucks, I would have done the same thing. I was always blessed to work at higher end establishments. My guest check averages were maybe 40-60 bucks a person. I worked with professionals and usually servers who do shitty jobs do not enjoy what they do.

I, on the other hand, really did. Wine service, wine recommendations, table side service, crumbers, the whole spiel. And thankfully, I rarely had under 15 percent tips. 18-20+ percent was the norm. Also, as a foot fetishist, it was cool to look at all of the rich women's feet and shit, lmfao. I dunno..., if your older and have been in the service industry, you will usually try to gain the experience and stuff to work at nicer establishments, for the clientele.

I'm not try to attack you, but can you clarify one thing? so $50/person x2 = $100/table...
each table leaves 20% = $20/tip/table? you can easily handle 5 tables per hour, and so you were making $100/hr?

Just Alex 09-10-2011 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 18417171)

30% if it is a higher end resturant


Fucking show off.
What difference does it make if it high end or not? Or wait, define "higher end"? Fridays?

newB 09-10-2011 09:22 AM

As a generous tipper, I have probably come out ahead financially. In quite a few places I frequent, most bartenders now only charge me for a fraction of the tab, and restaurant owners and management often give us free appetizers, desserts, or outright picking up the bill entirely. I don't expect it, and would still frequent those places and tip generously even if they didn't, but it's nice to be appreciated.

TheSquealer 09-10-2011 09:30 AM

50 people who act like being a waitress is a career, not a failure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 18416463)
Before doing this full time, I was a server. Yes, the restaurant industry did pay me 2.13 and hour. And I relied on my tips to make rent, eat, etc. I hear it's changed now to 4.13 per hour, which is still crap.

Servers expect minimum 15 percent and 20 percent gratuity is usually the norm. When I was a server, I worked my ass off every night. Anyone who tips less than 15 percent should eat at Burger King imho.



"Servers expect..."

That's exactly what's wrong with "tipping"

I could add to your last sentence and say "anyone who EXPECTS 15% no matter what, should not be working a job that any monkey can do".

nico-t 09-10-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18416807)
My GF disagrees... Her cunt was 'Well eaten out' She says...

:1orglaugh

D Ghost 09-10-2011 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18416629)
why should I tip a waiter? isn't it expected of him to take orders and serve food? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Well yeah that's why I say this "Also with restaurants.... they pay their employees minimum wage, and pass the cost of their employees onto the customer. As if you haven't already paid enough for the food, now you are supporting their employees directly. Who ever thought of this concept is/was a brilliant business person...

(Also in some States, the restaurant owners are allowed to even pay their servers UNDER minimum wage, I've heard of servers getting like $2/hr base, because tips supposedly make up the rest)"

D Ghost 09-10-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18416556)
Do you want boogers and spit in your food? If no then don't disparage people for their 15 seconds of work. The fact is in America where in the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour for waitresses/waiters it's $2.13 an hour. They need those tips.

It's pretty simple if you like the service then its 15% if it's REALLY good then at least 20% if it sucks then 10% or even none. I usually leave something so they know their tip sucked because of bad service and not because I just forgot to leave one. You know like maybe a quarter and a bunch of pennies. I also round up to the nearest dollar. On a $12 ticket I'm not leaving $1.80 that's kinda gay. I'll leave $2.

I do tip quite well sometimes 20-20% even if the service is mediocre. Also, yes I never leave "exactly 20%, I will round up.

However, these service industry people should talk to their bosses who don't pay them enough. It's not the customers fault there is this whole tipping business. Which doesn't happen very much anywhere in the world besides U.S.

D Ghost 09-10-2011 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 18416780)
Here's the problem with people assuming servers know you tipped poorly because the service was bad...

They just assume you're a cheap fuck.

Once you leave and they see you tipped them whatever they just assume you're a cheap ass and that's it. You're going to get shit service every time you go back to that place if anyone is there that knows your server, because they assume you're going to tip like shit for them too.

If you have bad service, tell your server as you're getting shit service. Not when you're leaving. If you do and it still sucks, get up and find the manager and tell them. Ask for another server or just leave.

But tipping poorly with no explanation really doesn't prove any points, it just makes you look bad.

EXACTLY. They won't say "Oh my service must have not been that good tonight." They say "wow what an asshole!" - because of course they never do anything wrong and think they are hot shit.

Jon Oso 09-10-2011 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 18418062)
EXACTLY. They won't say "Oh my service must have not been that good tonight." They say "wow what an asshole!" - because of course they never do anything wrong and think they are hot shit.

I just want to clarify that my working knowledge is 100% bar/club based. I am familiar with how restaurants work but I'm by no means going to assume that I know why things happen as they do.

Servers/waitresses/bartenders/whatever deal with a lot of shit every night.

I was behind a bar for over a year, 7 days a week and some of the customer-horror-stories I have are incredible. Guys coming in and tipping me a quarter for a round of drinks, people coming in daily and not tipping at all, people bitching that we didn't serve pitchers of beer (one guy with about 5 teeth asked "what kind of dump doesn't have pitchers of beer"... this was at a strip club), people bitching that they couldn't taste the booze in their drink no matter how much you put in there, beer is too warm, beer is too cold, ice melted too fast, not enough ice, too much ice, my straw is too short, glass was too small, too much soda, too many bubbles, this isn't XXXX liquor and that's what I asked for even though I watched you pour it, prices are too expensive (we ran $5 you-call-its for almost a year). I could go on.

I know for a fact that it wasn't my "service" as I knew all of the regulars drinks and they were waiting on the bar for them before they even sat down and even with a packed bar I was on everyone when they had about 1/4 left seeing if they wanted more. People are just fucking cheap sometimes.

I've never worked so hard for so little money in my life.

GAMEFINEST 09-10-2011 09:11 PM

I always tip....

georgeyw 09-11-2011 04:00 AM

Tipping does help people to go above and beyond in their jobs - well above and beyond or just creative. ie create work where there isn't any and expect a tip :disgust

Who do the tips go to?

I mean from my perspective tipping $1 per drink is paying for ~20 seconds of work - so that's what $180 an hour.

CurrentlySober 09-11-2011 04:09 AM

My True Embarrsing Tipping Story...

I was in a cub in Tampa (As A VIP) for the first night EVER having been awaty from the UK...

Sexy young girl turns up, and asks what I wanna drink? I say 'Beer?" she says Fine.... I say 'How Much?" She says $5.00

5 mins later she hands me a beer. I hand her the $5.00

As far as I am concerned, in my own had, I have for fulfilled the contract...

I have a beer, she has her $5.00

So why did she look at me like I was a cunt?

I asked an american, and he said I HAD to tip!!! I DID NOT KNOW!!!

I went looking for her with $20.00 but I couldnt remember who she was. I felt really guilty and shitty... I did not know!!!

From then on, I tipped WELL over the expected amount to make up for it... For 7 years :thumbsup

Well, I still kinda feel guilty about it today... I simply did not know the protocol...

Jel 09-11-2011 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18416724)
you sir are a moron dipshit and an asshole. fine then we'll raise the minimum wage for waiters/waitresses to $7.25 like everyone else and ban tipping. Then the restaurant will raise the price of your item from $10 to $12 anyways. except now the waiter has no motivation to give you good service.

Aside from getting the sack because he/she is shit at the job they are being paid to do, you mean?

georgeyw 09-11-2011 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18418948)
Aside from getting the sack because he/she is shit at the job they are being paid to do, you mean?

Yup - works in the rest of the world and the service staff still do have the opportunity for a tip when they provide great service.

potter 09-11-2011 06:23 AM

Anyone who doesn't tip 20% has never worked service, is cheap, or thinks they are better than everyone else.

I tip 20% as a standard, even if the service isn't great. Because I know how shitty that job can be and that just because I got bad service it might not be the servers fault (could be some asshole in the place wasting their time, could be a 12 top, could be working twice as many tables because one of the other servers called in, computer system could be down, bartender might be behind, kitchen might be behind). Restaurants are literally organized chaos.

If you think you need to make a point to a server and tip them something shitty, then you need to change some things in your life. I've got more important things to worry about and I don't need to be a dick to people because they're having a bad day. And If you can't afford to tip someone something decent then you probably shouldn't be taking in the experience of eating out, you could always order -to go-.

signupdamnit 09-11-2011 07:06 AM

I'm generally for tipping workers who earn under minimum wage or barely minimum wage what is customary. However sometimes I wonder if the service being provided is really worth 15-20% of the total cost.

Let's say you are at an expensive restaurant and for two people the cost will be $100. The whole experience lasted 45 minutes. The waiter came to the table let's say 4 times, each on average for two minutes. Is that eight minutes of time (let's double it to account for unseen time involved in getting the order right) really worth 20% of the cost of the food or $20?

Of course make it a $30 meal and the $6 tip becomes much more reasonable for that 8-16 minutes. So maybe there is an argument for tipping not based on the percentage of the total cost but based on the time, costs, and actual labor involved (and it makes for some questions with Real estate agents as well) . Of course the common pay structure and the IRS messes this up since I believe the IRS assumes a certain amount of tips based on a percentage from a tipped employee.

TheSquealer 09-11-2011 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 18419052)
Anyone who doesn't tip 20% has never worked service, is cheap, or thinks they are better than everyone else.

I understand what tipping is. It's me giving a little extra for someone that gave me a little extra as a show of appreciation and recognition of that fact.

The problem seems to be that the shit wait staff which are basically unemployable dipshits with zero skills whatsoever to help them in the job market think they are entitled.

Waiting tables as an adult is supposed to be a wake up call. Not a career.
:2 cents:

BlackCrayon 09-11-2011 09:06 AM

all you cheap fuckers make me laugh. how much are you really losing when you are tipping people? add it up. you probably spend more on coffee. in the end if you don't agree with the tipping system, don't punish the employees. change needs to start with the employer.

georgeyw 09-11-2011 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 18419052)
Anyone who doesn't tip 20% has never worked service, is cheap, or thinks they are better than everyone else.

OR they live in a country where employers pay their employees rather than everyone else having to do it for them.

shimmy2 09-11-2011 04:02 PM

i pray you cheapos never visit a 3rd world country with that no-tip attitude

TheSquealer 09-11-2011 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18419254)
change needs to start with the employer.

How much do you tip the person at McDonalds that slides you your big mac?

Just curious

SuckOnThis 09-11-2011 09:21 PM

I never understood why the tip should be based on a percentage of the bill. WTF is that all about? If I order a $20 pizza compared to a $10 pizza why should the driver get another $2? Cause the $20 pizza weighs an extra 6 ounces?

seeme 09-12-2011 12:44 AM

I tip whatever coins I have left over from a note, if I have no coins left over then no tip:1orglaugh

calvinawe 09-12-2011 02:28 AM

i hate it when a tip is included in the price and still the waiters expecting you to tip them additionally. it is outright extortion in my book, not better than underpass beggars and makes me want to forget about that place for ever.

sojproductions 09-12-2011 02:59 AM

One thing I dont agree with is tipping for bad service, it's still the norm to tip a lower amount even if you thought it was poor poor service, shouldn't get anything!

sojproductions 09-12-2011 03:07 AM

also where's the cut off point, i'll never forget, we were in Hawaii, had a slap up family meal in a nice hotel, over the xmas period, the total bill was just under $1,000, so it wasn't cheap, my old fella gave the waiter an $80 tip, the waiter complained 'sir, tips should be at least 15%'... I couldn't believe it, he wanted $150 for a few minutes with us, really?? no offence to him, he was very good, but he was serving food not defending us in court!!

georgeyw 09-12-2011 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sojproductions (Post 18420746)
also where's the cut off point, i'll never forget, we were in Hawaii, had a slap up family meal in a nice hotel, over the xmas period, the total bill was just under $1,000, so it wasn't cheap, my old fella gave the waiter an $80 tip, the waiter complained 'sir, tips should be at least 15%'... I couldn't believe it, he wanted $150 for a few minutes with us, really?? no offence to him, he was very good, but he was serving food not defending us in court!!

What was your dads response ?

My Grans friend was in the states a couple of years ago ( 80 something year old woman ) and did not tip purely because she did not know it was 'how things are done'. The waiter accosted her infront of the entire restaurant - belittling her until she handed over money.

BlackCrayon 09-12-2011 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18420108)
How much do you tip the person at McDonalds that slides you your big mac?

Just curious

nothing but they get paid slightly more than minimum wage. they do not bring me my drinks or food to my table. ask if i want another, ask how my meal is. nor would they get me anything, etc..

bronco67 09-12-2011 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 18420305)
I never understood why the tip should be based on a percentage of the bill. WTF is that all about? If I order a $20 pizza compared to a $10 pizza why should the driver get another $2? Cause the $20 pizza weighs an extra 6 ounces?

I always tip drivers a standard 5 or 6 bucks. I don't equate driving a pizza to someone's house to the same thing as waiting on a table. Percentage is only at the restaurant.

bronco67 09-12-2011 05:34 AM

The waitresses on this site will get the tip of my dick.

http://www.smokinghotwaitress.com/

CaptainHowdy 09-12-2011 07:21 AM

Tipping is a art ...

JamesGw 09-12-2011 07:33 AM

I typically tip about 20-25%, sometimes up to 30% if I really like the service. If it's a place we go to often and they take care of us, sometimes it's more. Always leave a $5 minimum regardless of what the total bill is.

At bars, it's usually $1 a drink, but it depends on the bartender.

bronco67 09-12-2011 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesGw (Post 18421233)
I typically tip about 20-25%, sometimes up to 30% if I really like the service. If it's a place we go to often and they take care of us, sometimes it's more. Always leave a $5 minimum regardless of what the total bill is.

At bars, it's usually $1 a drink, but it depends on the bartender.

If I know I'm going to be at a bar for hours with a group, I tip the bartender $20-$40 right up front. When it gets 3 deep at the bar later, he/she will always be looking out for me when I'm trying to get another round. It's not really a decent tip, considering it's stretched out over the entire night, but something about the large sum at the beginning will make them remember you, and make you a priority.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:28 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123