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09-16-2011, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by nyllover

Since all this mess, we are considering to switch to Epoch as our main processor (now it's the backup).

Just yesterday... had a bunch of denial emails from CCBill...all of them managed to subscribe from Epoch. If there are these kind of problems, why can't i think that there are even more problems in the process?

Well not sure how you are doing now but I am in the US and not on a proxy and all my prices on your ccbill page for...

"CCBill EU is the designated E-ticket Supplier, Payment Processor, and Access Management Provider for Pas Pie Service, [valentina.passionepiedi.com]."

Page is showing up in Euros. Usually if a surfer from the US sees payment in Euros he will look for the US dollar conversion which in your case doesn't display. Certainly worth checking that out.
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09-17-2011, 01:44 AM

Thanks beaner, although the reason why we set that up was that it was showing dollars even from my pc (here in italy)...weird. But i see your point, and we'll have a look into it.

@Squirtit if i can't express to a company my concerns about their services, then i believe it's even pointless to believe problems can be solved. They are offering us a service that we believe is buggy, why shouldn't i point them here so that they could maybe join the conversation?

Anyway... i got the usual "all fine here" (even if with a bit more in depth info) answer...we will switch one of our sites to Epoch and see if things change.

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09-17-2011, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by nyllover

Thanks beaner, although the reason why we set that up was that it was showing dollars even from my pc (here in italy)...weird. But i see your point, and we'll have a look into it.

Ccbill is suppose to automatically recognize the ip country and display correct currency.

I can only imagine how many potential members u are losing.
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09-17-2011, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by beaner

Ccbill is suppose to automatically recognize the ip country and display correct currency.

I can only imagine how many potential members u are losing.

Actually just one of our sites had that settings...so that can't be the reason why we lost so many sales...

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09-17-2011, 02:03 PM

0 ccbill referral sales for well over a week. But I'm still getting rebills.

It has been ages since I've got a [email protected] 'You have referred a sale' email.

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09-17-2011, 02:09 PM

sales are getting bad here :/

(1 singe sale in the 4 last days + ratio of 1/3800 during this week, 1/2700 the week before, 1/1300 one more week before and 1/1109 again the week before)

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09-17-2011, 02:22 PM

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sales are getting bad here :/

(1 singe sale in the 4 last days + ratio of 1/3800 during this week, 1/2700 the week before, 1/1300 one more week before and 1/1109 again the week before)

Same here 2-3 sales per day and that was arround 10-15-20 sales per day before July 2011! I did that ever single day (besides some shit days) since 2005!

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09-17-2011, 03:18 PM

My ccbill affiliate ratio 9/1 - 9/17 versus 8/1 - 8/17 is +22% (better) but the last three days have been brutal.

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09-17-2011, 03:32 PM

i'm curious to know the explanation even if it wouldn't solve the problem.
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09-19-2011, 03:02 AM

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09-19-2011, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by KBHMN

As for Jscott, I would put my money on him being one of the most knowledgeable webmasters out there. If you are down playing his insight and claim he is to blame... lol good luck with that tangent, but I believe you are way off.

Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words

But ya, that was such a horrible streak, and really when 10+ years you never see something and now see such a drastic shit streak i think it's enough that would startle anyone.

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09-19-2011, 06:58 AM

go through spurts where I get some good sales, then days with NO sales

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09-19-2011, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by nyllover

Actually just one of our sites had that settings...so that can't be the reason why we lost so many sales...

I don't want to harp on this cuz it's your site but how is it that only 1 of your ccbill sites has that setting?

Why did you put that setting on just 1 site? Thought the reason you did was because even in Europe the currency displayed US dollars so you changed that to display Euro's when in Europe but that also showed Euro's in US.... right?

So now doesn't that mean all your other sites have the original problem of showing US dollars when from a European country? It's the same problem, just as bad, only reversed.

Not everybody knows to click that flag to get there currency.
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09-19-2011, 12:58 PM

why only one site?...testing

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09-19-2011, 04:05 PM

September is improving now for me

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09-19-2011, 05:06 PM

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09-19-2011, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by wehateporn

September is improving now for me

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09-19-2011, 08:38 PM

For me too: still bad.It is bad on both CCBill and NATS. I am still doing 20% to 25% as normal. My traffic is up, sales are really bad. WTF?

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09-19-2011, 09:25 PM

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09-19-2011, 10:03 PM

dont blame ccbill..

the answer are 500 sites.... examples: pornbb.org, filesonic.com, fielstube.com, intporn.com... and 494 other sites...

those are causing ur shitty ratios.
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09-19-2011, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by Argos88

dont blame ccbill..

the answer are 500 sites.... examples: pornbb.org, filesonic.com, fielstube.com, intporn.com... and 494 other sites...

those are causing ur shitty ratios.

I'm actually starting to believe it's not ccbill... just the dumb program owners

Put the writing on the wall read above and deliver on the doorstep and advice is just in one ear... out the other... lol
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09-20-2011, 01:49 AM

I got 1 ccbill sale yesterday after over a week of 0 sales. But it was processed by epoch.

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09-20-2011, 03:06 AM

i wonder what will happen when ccbill is gone.
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09-20-2011, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by beaner

I'm actually starting to believe it's not ccbill... just the dumb program owners

Put the writing on the wall read above and deliver on the doorstep and advice is just in one ear... out the other... lol

Thanks beaner, you are truly lovely.

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09-20-2011, 04:45 AM

0 sales yersterday.

Ccbill could at least explain the problem.
I don't know...
If there is problem with visa, i need to plan what i have to do....
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09-20-2011, 10:02 AM

Yesterday was 40% of normal. Today is half way and so far: 0 sales...

I have also a NATS sponsor where I send 400 uniques per day and where I get out 500 bucks per months since about 3 years in a row. The first half of September 2011 was only 80 bucks. Second half so far: 0.
WTF?

It is not only CCBill (I think the scrub is at max.) but also the total image that is not good.
My traffic is up my sales are dooooooooowwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn...

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09-20-2011, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by patavax

My traffic is up my sales are dooooooooowwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn...

same thing here.
I suspect a problem with the billing process.
visa or something...
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09-20-2011, 11:12 AM

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09-20-2011, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by pornmasta

I am feeling depressed too but you see it too black! I say: it can't be more worse than it is right now!
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09-20-2011, 02:31 PM

First sale of the day is confirmed... Waaooow!

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09-20-2011, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by nyllover

Thanks beaner, you are truly lovely.

Did I get your attention?

I really hope you fix "currency display" and then post back your results. It is not 1 site... it is all of your sites. If it displays euros or USD to the wrong people that is a big ass problem. What are you doing? Finally, why is ccbill displaying the wrong currencies? Totally unnacceptable in my opinion if you are trying to cater to people around the world and the currencies are fucked up.
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09-20-2011, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by patavax

I am feeling depressed too but you see it too black! I say: it can't be more worse than it is right now!
Or am I wrong?

Yes sure i could be in an extermination camp

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09-21-2011, 03:50 AM

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Jscott: come to the light, brother, let Homegrown be your salvation... these troubled times call for a company that does not suffer these issues...

i've joined there before, but after i hitup support said i have no account... this was like year ago or so
can you help make sure i get setup with a homegrown affiliate account? i remember since we hungout years ago, you have the best legal submitted amateur vids content, and i do have some ama traffic would love to send your way Farrel
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09-21-2011, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by jscott

But ya, that was such a horrible streak, and really when 10+ years you never see something and now see such a drastic shit streak i think it's enough that would startle anyone.

Anyways, I'm beginning to consider ccb not even a real source of income anymore, that's how bad it is

I honestly thought I was the only one going through this

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09-21-2011, 04:16 AM

Originally posted by patavax

Yesterday was 40% of normal. Today is half way and so far: 0 sales...

I have also a NATS sponsor where I send 400 uniques per day and where I get out 500 bucks per months since about 3 years in a row. The first half of September 2011 was only 80 bucks. Second half so far: 0.
WTF?

It is not only CCBill (I think the scrub is at max.) but also the total image that is not good.
My traffic is up my sales are dooooooooowwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn...

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09-21-2011, 07:33 AM

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I would guess most of the issues are the sponsors you are sending it to. Ccbill has worked when people actually wants to buy a membership. Just sayin'

I tried getting a membership to a site last night through ccbill, "declined by bank" is what I got from ccbill, I talked to thier tech support about this because I had plenty money in the bank, they told me adult sites are considered high risk and that may be why the bank declined it, when I told him I have joined adult sites in the past using the same credit card, he then said that's strange, I don't know why it was declined then....

I don't really care about joining that site, but it makes me wonder, If i was declined "being in the USA and haveing plenty of $$$ in the bank" then how many members have tried to join my sites and have been declined....

Don't get me wrong, I wanna stay with ccbill, "they handle the affiliate payouts" but they really need to figure out this problem and fix it!

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09-21-2011, 07:56 AM

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I tried getting a membership to a site last night through ccbill, "declined by bank" is what I got from ccbill, I talked to thier tech support about this because I had plenty money in the bank, they told me adult sites are considered high risk and that may be why the bank declined it, when I told him I have joined adult sites in the past using the same credit card, he then said that's strange, I don't know why it was declined then....

I don't really care about joining that site, but it makes me wonder, If i was declined "being in the USA and haveing plenty of $$$ in the bank" then how many members have tried to join my sites and have been declined....

Don't get me wrong, I wanna stay with ccbill, "they handle the affiliate payouts" but they really need to figure out this problem and fix it!

quoted for truth... I attempted with 2 different cards, visa debit and mastercard credit, both returned 'declined by bank', I have a strong credit rating, never been declined before by any sites. This was a few months back, I too could not get a definitive answer, from live chat, what I can say is the declines did flag up correctly in the stats, so I was satisfied they are reporting correctly.

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09-21-2011, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by sojproductions

quoted for truth... I attempted with 2 different cards, visa debit and mastercard credit, both returned 'declined by bank', I have a strong credit rating, never been declined before by any sites. This was a few months back, I too could not get a definitive answer, from live chat, what I can say is the declines did flag up correctly in the stats, so I was satisfied they are reporting correctly.

I had the same problem, though not with CCBill, I wanted to pay $3 for a trial of a site that I needed promo content for (I didn't have time to wait to be granted free access). I tried to buy it, but it was declined. My debit card got locked so I had to phone the bank, they explained they had locked my card for my own safety as the purchase was not one that I would normally make. I enquired more about their system, apparently it is aware of your normal spending behaviour and if you go outside that it locks your card. Anyway, I tried to join the site again after the phone call, only to find the same problem once again, my card was again locked. The problem is, this doesn't allow me to change my spending behaviour, as the system never lets me go outside of what it tells me is my normal spending behaviour, every time I try to do something different my account gets locked, despite me telling the bank to stop this from happening.

It makes me wonder how many sales are lost through different systems (not just CCBill) because of the banks and their oversensitive protection mechanisms

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09-21-2011, 08:10 AM

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09-21-2011, 09:48 AM

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09-21-2011, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by 888works

I tried getting a membership to a site last night through ccbill, "declined by bank" is what I got from ccbill, I talked to thier tech support about this because I had plenty money in the bank, they told me adult sites are considered high risk and that may be why the bank declined it, when I told him I have joined adult sites in the past using the same credit card, he then said that's strange, I don't know why it was declined then....

I don't really care about joining that site, but it makes me wonder, If i was declined "being in the USA and haveing plenty of $$$ in the bank" then how many members have tried to join my sites and have been declined....

Don't get me wrong, I wanna stay with ccbill, "they handle the affiliate payouts" but they really need to figure out this problem and fix it!

This is a huge issue and explains partial why sales are getting down.

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09-21-2011, 11:19 AM

new thread about ccbill connection problems

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09-21-2011, 11:28 AM

Where is CCBill in this thread? This what I would like to know. Before when paulK was always around he would be in here in a second....c'mon CCBill, silence is not golden.

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09-21-2011, 11:31 AM

i avoid ccbill like the plague.

i have had nothing but problems with them for a decade now.

i guess the owner is to busy flying around in his Jet to give a fuck... their stats software alone is enough to make me want to pull my hair out, let alone their sub-par support that always says everything looks fine.
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09-21-2011, 12:48 PM

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That connection problem could actually explain it all. We looked at our form hits stats, and that didn't change in the last months...but we saw and incredible drop in form submission...could maybe mean that the form doesn't load properly...and that's why we have no sales.

To people talking about "card declined by bank" issue....that's not the case here. We have Epoch as backup processor, and in anyway that would still mean the form had been submitted...but the drop is actually in form submissions...

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09-21-2011, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by MisterPeabody

Where is CCBill in this thread? This what I would like to know. Before when paulK was always around he would be in here in a second....c'mon CCBill, silence is not golden.

I loved the posts of you where you mentioned: CCBill is a fine company!

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09-21-2011, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by nyllover

That connection problem could actually explain it all. We looked at our form hits stats, and that didn't change in the last months...but we saw and incredible drop in form submission...could maybe mean that the form doesn't load properly...and that's why we have no sales.

To people talking about "card declined by bank" issue....that's not the case here. We have Epoch as backup processor, and in anyway that would still mean the form had been submitted...but the drop is actually in form submissions...

It doesn''t explain it all:I am an aff.of a NATS program where I send 500 uniques per day to their tour and that program make me 500 bucks per month. This month so far: 80 bucks! That NATS site is/was a very good program for rebills.This months rebills: just 4. In a normal month I had 15/20. This month I will only have 6/7... So far this month: 1 sale. That is 1: 10.000... Can you believe that? It's only a small particular part of my traffic. But I will be glad to make 120 bucks this month where in an average month it is 500. And that 500 is not my best month but just the average of the last 3 years... I repeat: this is a NATS program.

CCBill sales are very very very bad this month. I predict that I will make 30% of a normal month. Is CCbill the issuel? I think scrubbing is at max but the processor on it's own is not the issue and CCBill pays me every week in time, so for me it is really a very good company.

Another example: I send about 20K per month to a program with a different processor (not CCbill and not NATS). So far this month (after 20 days) I have 1 sale in 13K. Can you believe that? That is fucking 1:13.000. And so far 3 rebills. So also here I see a huge drop in rebills... Drop in sales + rebills: that looks not good. I work for this program since 4 years. This is my fucking worst month ever...

I am just a medium player in the adult bizz and I am in the game for only 6 years now but since July 2011 things are really different! My traffic + revenue was always increasing but since July 2011 my revenue isn''t anymore!

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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09-21-2011, 02:47 PM

i had some decent sales yesterday and this month sucks with other sponsors too
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