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![]() The New York Times scoops that the federal government is preparing to file suit against a dozen major banks in the coming days for their roles in 2008 financial crisis. The Federal Housing Finance Agency, which oversees Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, is alleging that the banks misrepresented the quality of mortgages bundled together as securities ? billing subprime loans as secure investments.
Among the banks set to be slapped with lawsuits according to the Times are: Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank. The agency filed suit against UBS earlier this year for $900 million in damages. Fannie and Freddie lost more than $30 billion during the financial crisis ? at least in part due to the bad loans they bought. The lawsuits are expected to be filed Friday, or else just after the holiday weekend. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/us-pr...#ixzz1WlDQQdSx
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provide a bailout, then sue?
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Sure, normal pattern ...
Just like : sell arms to dictator, then invade ....
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I dont know, I just dont see this happening. The big banks have so much influence over the government (both parties) I can't see how it would move forward
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It's already happened. It's going to happen again.
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This has to be quoted.
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If they did that they would plummet the stock market
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What holiday is that?
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Pure comedy.
Then lets turn right back around later this year or 2012 and bail them out again. |
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Ony the us government is powerfull enough to attack the biggest banks and win.
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I think I have a better theory...this is actually far too obvious. US government = Wall Street.
Wall street = banks. Banks = FED...isn't perhaps election coming in the USA? I mean choosing between douche and turd? Just think: who Americans blame for the recession? The Santa? David Duchovny? No, they blame the banks! This is another fucking political brainwash. In Europe we call it "election sausage". In other words they say "Vote for us because we're planning to punish those responsible for the economic situation" |
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It's all part of the government plan unveiled on south park:
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How did banks prevent people from owning homes? The whole meltdown was the direct result of loaning money for homes to people who should have never qualified for a loan to begin with. The total net effect was that more people were able to purchase homes.
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What is the fucking point of this? It's going to punish the mortgage industry - long over due - but it's not going to help the average joe who lost their house.
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Besides, the average Joe who lost his house also bears some responsibility for losing his house. No one is forced to buy a home.
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The bankers will be fine and will pass on lawsuit losses to their customers, as usual.
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This is the tragedy of people who think companies should be punished for any reason. Ultimately, the consumer pays for it. That's how biz works. When you increase the cost of production/expenses, the price of the product increases. Increase corporate taxes, the price of the product increases and so on.
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Wouldn't it be easier and quicker to just fine them? Tell them to give back all the bailout money? THey're using up taxpayer dollars to sue the companies that acted with their permission to screw over the taxpayers, and then they shored the banks up with more taxpayer dollars.. now they're suing? Who are they kidding?
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Way to go US for moving so quickly on this. We're all safed!!!1
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![]() No. What really needs to happen is that banks are held accountable and by law cannot pass the bullshit onto the customer, the losses must be absorbed internally. And if they do try to pass the shit onto the consumer they should be fined double the amount and so forth. The banking system is out of control to the detriment of the world and needs to be completely re-defined. On the consumer end, if a person knowingly tries to buy a McMansion he cannot afford he should be equally pimp slapped hard.
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The price gets passed to the consumer. Always. No clue what the answer is.
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The govt is just suing themselves this is all for show
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No, I realized after I posted that - that it was poorly phrased. I mean the general idea of peoples thinking to punish companies for any reason most often means they are going to end up paying for it themselves. It's hard to hold a company responsible for something. It's easy to hold individuals liable. I was meaning to say that's a more practical angle of attack and something that you be looked at as a long term cure to such behaviors.
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But here's the thing- they are already fucking their customers. Every week it's some new charge on debit cards or credit cards etc and they can do whatever the hell they want. What needs to happen is a fundamental change in laws regarding banks and how they operate. They have far too much control and wield too much power behind the world stage and the results have been catastrophic.
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Yes...but impossible. This was a well designed scenario, a huge ponzi scheme with the failsafe mechanism being that the banks were "too big to fail." That was the fear meme and it worked perfectly. The Enron insanity should have woken up people but as it turns out everyone was doing it.
99% of the people will always end up paying for the 1%'s fuck ups, whether those fuck ups are intentional or not.
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However, some of the most toxic assets are now owned by the gov. Also, the FED has been lending them trillions on low interest loan to keep the system going. This is really bad, and a long term moral hazard. I think to fix the balance, they need to criminaly prosecute the execs responsible and make an example of them. This is very hard to do, as the procedures were industry standard. The ratings agencies should be the first too go, they are still rating subprime AAAs to this day. |
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The "banks" were not the problem. Bad loans were made possible primarily by being able to hide them in mortgage backed securities using various strategies. Loans are sold. You can't sell shitty loans if you don't have buyers for them. You have buyers for them when they are no longer being identified as bad loans. Banks make these kinds of loans in accordance with their ability to sell them. The short version is that the entire financial system failed. It wasn't just "banks". Banks weren't the ones giving shit investments AAA investment ratings, or figuring out how to better and better hide bad loans and bad debt in complex financial instruments that the creators themselves had a hard time explaining.
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In total over 130 execs are named.
Here are those named in the FHFA's lawsuit against BofA: GEORGE C. CARP ROBERT CARUSO GEORGE E. ELLISON ADAM D.GLASSNER DANIEL B. GOODWIN JULIANA JOHNSON AASHISH KAMAT MICHAEL J. KULA JAMES H. LUTHER WILLIAM L. MAXWELL MARK I. RYAN ANTOINE SCHETRITT Those named in the lawsuit against Goldman: PETER C.ABERG HOWARD S. ALTARESC ROBERT J. CHRISTIE KEVIN GASVODA MICHELLE GILL DAVID J. ROSENBLUM JONATHAN S. SOBEL DANIEL L.SPARKS MARK WEISS Those named in the lawsuit against Citi: SUSAN MILLS RANDALL COSTA SCOTT FREIDENRICH RICHARDA. ISENBERG MARK I. TSESARSKY PETER PATRICOLA JEFFREY PERLOWITZ EVELYN ECHEVARRI Those named in the lawsuit against Morgan Stanley: GAIL P. MCDONNELL HOWARD HUBLER CRAIG S. PHILLIPS ALEXANDER C. FRANK DAVID R. WARREN JOHN E. WESTERFIELD STEVEN S. STERN Those named in the lawsuit against Barclays: MICHAEL WADE JOHN CARROLL PAUL MENEFEE Those named in the lawsuit against Countrywide: JOSHUA ADLER THOMAS H. BOONE JEFFREY P. GROGIN RANJIT KRIPALANI STANFORD KURLAND THOMAS KEITH MCLAUGHLIN JENNIFER S. SANDEFUR ERIC SIERACKI DAVID A. SPECTOR Those named in the lawsuit against Credit Suisse: ANDREW A. KIMURA JEFFREY A. ALTABEF EVELYN ECHEVARRIA MICHAEL A. MARRIOTT ZEV KINDLER JOHN P. GRAHAM THOMAS E. SIEGLER THOMAS ZINGALLI CARLOS ONIS STEVEN L. KANTOR JOSEPH M. DONOVAN JULIANA JOHNSON GREG RICHTER Those named in the lawsuit against Deutsche Bank DOUGLAS K. JOHNSON EVELYN ECHEVARRIA JULIANA C. JOHNSON Those named in the lawsuit against JPMorgan DAVID M. DUZYK LOUIS SCHIOPPO, JR. CHRISTINE E. COLE EDWIN F. MCMICHAEL WILLIAM A. KING BRIAN BERNARD MATTHEW E. PERKINS JOSEPH T. JURKOWSKI, JR. SAMUEL L. MOLINARO, JR. THOMAS F. MARANO KIM LUTTHANS KATHERINE GARNIEWSKI JEFFREY MAYER JEFFREY L. VERSCHLEISER MICHAEL B. NIERENBERG RICHARD CAREAGA DAVID BECK DIANE NOVAK THOMAS GREEN ROLLAND JURGENS THOMAS G. LEHMANN STEPHEN FORTUNATO DONALD WILHELM MICHAEL J. KULA CRAIG S. DAVIS MARC K. MALONE MICHAEL L. PARKER MEGAN M. DAVIDSON DAVID H. ZIELKE THOMAS W. CASEY JOHN F. ROBINSON KEITH JOHNSON SUZANNE KRAHLING LARRY BREITBARTH hahahahahahaAL I. DOMINGO TROY A. GOTSCHALL ART DEN HEYER STEPHEN LOBO Those named in the lawsuit against Merrill Lynch: MATTHEW WHALEN BRIAN T. SULLIVAN MICHAEL M. MCGOVERN DONALD J. PUGLISI PAUL PARK DONALD C. HAN Those named in the lawsuit against Nomura DAVID FINDLAY JOHN MCCARTHY JOHN P. GRAHAM NATHAN GORIN N. DANTE LAROCCA Those named in the lawsuit against RBS JOSEPH N. WALSH III CAROL P MATHIS ROBERT J MCGINNIS JOHN C ANDERSON JAMES ESPOSITO Those names in the lawsuit against SOCGEN ARNAUD DENIS ABNER FIGUEROA TONY TUSI ORLANDO FIGUEROA
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I dont get it, i guess you have to watch cartoons to understand this?
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