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Serious biz question for programs regarding partnership / percentages...

08-31-2011, 09:50 AM

So, I have a good friend who was the male star of a very successful B/G paysite (under 20,000 Alexa) for many years... he is no longer with that site but wanting to do his own thing, with my help.

The site he was with he did not own or manage in any way, he simply received a paycheck. So, he has no way of having a customer list, emails or anything like that. He is effectively starting over, although he was a fairly big name and continues to be recognized a lot, so his new site has the potential to gain popularity quickly.

We have shot several scenes for his new site, myself shooting over half of them, and I will probably be shooting 50% or more of them in the future. In addition, I will be responsible for all of the back end stuff... getting traffic, using my servers, my bandwidth, my affiliates, customer support, design, site maintenance, my billing accounts, weekly webmastering duties with updates, editing, adding content to the affiliate program etc. Also, I am financing about 60-70% of the cost of the shoots for the time being. That will change if/when the site is self-sufficient, and we'll be deducting our expenses off the top. HIS plans are to hire an editor to help me once the site is profitable, since I currently do everything myself.

So... my question is, what percentage should I be asking for?

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08-31-2011, 09:55 AM

minimum 50%
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08-31-2011, 09:59 AM

Get 100% and write him a check.

becoming as big as MilfHunter will be tough though ;))

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08-31-2011, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by 888works

minimum 50%

51% or more..keep some sort of control...

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08-31-2011, 10:15 AM

So, all he's really bringing is his name and his spooge? Not even a back catalog? Unless this guy is on par with Ron Jeremy for name recognition, I wouldn't be embarrassed to ask for as much as 75%. Remember, talent usually has a short lifespan before the next big thing comes along (ha!) and most of your subscibers are going to be looking for his female partners. Might be different if it were a gay site, but probably not by much; same short fame cycle. What does Google AdWords come up with for searches on his name? That's how many people care.

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08-31-2011, 10:18 AM

Even at 50% it's a lot of work on your end, I agree with Roald write him a check and since he's a friend put in some bonus structure while he's actively involved in the site.

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08-31-2011, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by ManPuppy

What does Google AdWords come up with for searches on his name? That's how many people care.

673,000 monthly searches - The problem is, he can't use that name for the new site, and the old site is still operating with a new male talent, so trying to siphon any of that traffic that's going to the old site is going to be a real pain in the ass for me.

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08-31-2011, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by waltgator

51% or more..keep some sort of control...

I'm not worried about losing control. It's my network, and he just wants to be added to it. He knows he could never start a single site from scratch and try and make it, so we agreed to add him to my network (which, of course, is yet another thing I'm supplying to this partnership).

Regardless of what we agree on, worst case scenario is he takes his site and goes somewhere else... it won't affect any of my other sites.

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08-31-2011, 10:27 AM

i would go with paycheck plus a small % ownership. non-ownership puts him right back in the boat he was in in his mind i'll bet. maybe check plus up to 10%? his obligations to the company should be more than just using his name/talent. you should clearly define both of your rolls/duties right out of the gate so there is no miscommunication or misgivings later good luck in your venture

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08-31-2011, 10:31 AM

not being able to use his own adult performer name.... wow, he should fight for that! oh, and if I was going to be doing all this, I'de make sure I owned the web domain and rights to use everything if he decides to leave.
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08-31-2011, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by ExtremeBank_Adam

673,000 monthly searches - The problem is, he can't use that name for the new site, and the old site is still operating with a new male talent, so trying to siphon any of that traffic that's going to the old site is going to be a real pain in the ass for me.

Yeah, Roald has the right idea. Check/bonus structure. You'd have to hit a bunch of blogs/news sites with press releases and posts saying you're featuring "Dick Cavity, formerly known as Edward Stickyhands" or whatever to try and get your new site news to dominate the SERPS, and that's a lot of work. Tier your structure. Healthy search numbers, though; it's a better start than from scratch.

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08-31-2011, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by 888works

not being able to use his own adult performer name.... wow, he should fight for that! oh, and if I was going to be doing all this, I'de make sure I owned the web domain and rights to use everything if he decides to leave.

His old "name" is also the old domain name. The old company owns that domain and won't be giving it up any time soon, lol. They also own the trademark to that name.

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08-31-2011, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by ExtremeBank_Adam

His old "name" is also the old domain name. The old company owns that domain and won't be giving it up any time soon, lol. They also own the trademark to that name.

Im sure there is a way to work around that, why not mention the name? Perhaps someone clever comes up with an idea to work around it ;))

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08-31-2011, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Roald

Get 100% and write him a check.

becoming as big as MilfHunter will be tough though ;))

Roald... the one who knows too much, lol.

I'm sure you'd be helping out with bringing in new signups.

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08-31-2011, 10:44 AM

smells like:

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