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sweetdesigns · 01-30-2003, 09:38 AM

anybody can tell me why arent flash sites more widely spread in the industry ?

SquarePants · 01-30-2003, 10:00 AM

Surfer Load time maybe?? Have to load a flash plugin??

ZoiNk · 01-30-2003, 10:34 AM

Not everyone has flash, loads slow, more expensive, etc.
You want complete compatability. If 10% of your surfers give up b/c it takes too long to load flash, you lose 10%, if 10% don't have flash installed, you lose another 10%. No one wants to lose 20% of their signups for something that costs more

ZoiNk

Interlude · 01-30-2003, 10:36 AM

The internet is not multimedia, it's TEXT. Flash can serve a purpose, to, say, compliment your main design, but you shouldn't rely on it.

candyflip · 01-30-2003, 10:37 AM

Not everyone is on broadband connection. In fact, most aren't. Graphics and html load slow enough as it is on 56k...no need to bog it down even more with Flash.

scooby doo as scooby does · 01-30-2003, 11:27 AM

1) Not everybody has, or wants, the plugin.
2) Download time. If you are dl'ing html page and lose the connection or whatever, you refresh and half is still already down/cached, takes not much longer. With flash, you refresh & it has to download the whole buggering thing again.
3) A fair few surfers have activex objects disabled for security reasons.

gornyhuy · 01-30-2003, 11:53 AM

I would also say that the FIRST time you see flash shit its very cool and impressive, but then you never wanna see it again, you just want to get to the content, either pics or text or whatever.

I can't stand a flash piece that doesn't let you skip through it.

flashfreak · 01-30-2003, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by scooby doo as scooby does
1) Not everybody has, or wants, the plugin.

yeah, you're right:

Worldwide Macromedia Flash penetration June 2002 September 2002 December 2002
Total number of Web users (IDC) (1)
465 million 485 million 507 million
Percentage who can view Macromedia Flash content (NPD) (2)
98.3% 97.8% 98.0%
Total Macromedia Flash penetration
455 million 474 million 497 million

Data Sources
1. Number of online (Web) users - IDC Online User Forecast International Data Corporation
2. NPD Online survey - Conducted Quarterly
3. U.S. Sample
*Next NPD Online survey will be conducted in March 2003.

minifly · 01-30-2003, 12:01 PM

Flash has gone the way of building applications, ( chats, video confering and the like more of a programmers tool ).

All I have to say about flash is that whenever I hit a site that gives me the option of flash and html, I always choose html, people want content and fast there just not enough time in the world for sell pitches and bullshit

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ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	Not everyone has flash, loads slow, more expensive, etc. You want complete compatability. If 10% of your surfers give up b/c it takes too long to load flash, you lose 10%, if 10% don't have flash installed, you lose another 10%. No one wants to lose 20% of their signups for something that costs more ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	Not everyone is on broadband connection. In fact, most aren't. Graphics and html load slow enough as it is on 56k...no need to bog it down even more with Flash. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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scooby doo as scooby does Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: A deep dark place. Posts: 314	1) Not everybody has, or wants, the plugin. 2) Download time. If you are dl'ing html page and lose the connection or whatever, you refresh and half is still already down/cached, takes not much longer. With flash, you refresh & it has to download the whole buggering thing again. 3) A fair few surfers have activex objects disabled for security reasons. __________________ In 1904, Charles Newman-Berry connected two abacus's together using specially enhanced GrapeVine thus inventing the first Internet connection. NEWMAN-BERRY CASH Paying webmaster since 1904

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gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	I would also say that the FIRST time you see flash shit its very cool and impressive, but then you never wanna see it again, you just want to get to the content, either pics or text or whatever. I can't stand a flash piece that doesn't let you skip through it. __________________ icq:159548293

01-30-2003, 10:00 AM	#2
SquarePants Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 408	Surfer Load time maybe?? Have to load a flash plugin??

01-30-2003, 10:36 AM	#4
Interlude Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: State of Denial Posts: 1,147	The internet is not multimedia, it's TEXT. Flash can serve a purpose, to, say, compliment your main design, but you shouldn't rely on it.

01-30-2003, 12:01 PM	#9
minifly Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: OC Posts: 40	Flash has gone the way of building applications, ( chats, video confering and the like more of a programmers tool ). All I have to say about flash is that whenever I hit a site that gives me the option of flash and html, I always choose html, people want content and fast there just not enough time in the world for sell pitches and bullshit