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xenigo 08-25-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fm1234 (Post 18379925)
Four generations of rental real estate business in my family, and our rule has always been to never adjust rent on a tenant unless you just want the tenant to fuck off and die. A good tenant who pays the bills on time and doesn't fuck things up is worth more than you can get for almost any rent increase that is unlikely to drive the tenant away. Keep her around, and when she leaves adjust the rent to the current market. Obviously, if she stays there 15 years that's another story, but relatively few renters are that kind of long-term. When you're talking 1-5 year turnovers, happy tenants are the best kind.


Frank

Thanks Frank. Good advice. She's super reliable.

xenigo 08-25-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18379934)
Is this for the property you acquired less than 6 months ago? https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1012404 If so, that would mean the tenant has been in there less than 5 months which would be kinda quick to be asking for a rent increase.

Interesting story on that property, actually. A few days before closing of escrow, we received word that the bank wouldn't fund the loan. Ironically it was a bank owned property, and they apparently didn't know this needed to be a "cash only" sale.

The situation was back around the burst of the RE bubble, the builder couldn't sell all the units. So they took possession of the remaining 50+% of them, and made them available as rentals. Well, I guess Fanny & Freddie have some stipulation in which they won't fund loans in buildings where there's not a high enough percentage of owner-occupied units.

But we weren't told this until the very last second. So we never ended up acquiring that unit.

HerPimp 08-25-2011 11:29 AM

Agreed, Franks advice is the best.

Ethersync 08-25-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fm1234 (Post 18379925)
Four generations of rental real estate business in my family, and our rule has always been to never adjust rent on a tenant unless you just want the tenant to fuck off and die. A good tenant who pays the bills on time and doesn't fuck things up is worth more than you can get for almost any rent increase that is unlikely to drive the tenant away. Keep her around, and when she leaves adjust the rent to the current market. Obviously, if she stays there 15 years that's another story, but relatively few renters are that kind of long-term. When you're talking 1-5 year turnovers, happy tenants are the best kind.


Frank

:2 cents:

shuki 08-25-2011 12:48 PM

I don't know how the rental market is where you are but i rented a 3+ bed last year for $4,900 and we got $6,000 for it this year :) A small bump of $50 wont bother her at all.

Harmon 08-25-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 18378635)
if its a good tenant, keep it the same..

The Shemp hath spoken, and by far the best post in this thread.

DaddyHalbucks 08-25-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki (Post 18380155)
I don't know how the rental market is where you are but i rented a 3+ bed last year for $4,900 and we got $6,000 for it this year :) A small bump of $50 wont bother her at all.

It all depends on the location and the local market.

the Shemp 08-25-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 18380158)
The Shemp hath spoken, and by far the best post in this thread.

and less than one line, too ...:thumbsup

DaddyHalbucks 08-26-2011 03:17 PM

In a really bad economy with few jobs, a rent DECREASE may be appropriate.

woj 08-26-2011 03:18 PM

$50...... :)

curiousdog 08-26-2011 05:18 PM

You guys are lucky. Rio de Janeiro has a real estate boom. My photo studio just got a 120% rent increase, and that was on top of the normal yearly rent increases they charged as inflation adjustment.

Good that I also receive rent.

Ask me if you want to invest in real estate in Brazil. Real estate increases in value dramatically, and it seems more pent-up demand and belated increase after decades of being stagnant then a bubble.

Jim_Gunn 08-26-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by curiousdog (Post 18382818)
You guys are lucky. Rio de Janeiro has a real estate boom. My photo studio just got a 120% rent increase, and that was on top of the normal yearly rent increases they charged as inflation adjustment.

Good that I also receive rent.

Ask me if you want to invest in real estate in Brazil. Real estate increases in value dramatically, and it seems more pent-up demand and belated increase after decades of being stagnant then a bubble.

120% increase, really? That would mean that rent of say $1000 is now $2200. Or did you mean a 20% increase so that your rent is now 120% of what it was or $1200, to use made up numbers?

xenigo 08-27-2011 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18382576)
In a really bad economy with few jobs, a rent DECREASE may be appropriate.

That's the good thing about higher end rental properties. You don't have the same economic volatility as when renting to bottom-feeders.

curiousdog 08-27-2011 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 18383030)
120% increase, really? That would mean that rent of say $1000 is now $2200. Or did you mean a 20% increase so that your rent is now 120% of what it was or $1200, to use made up numbers?

Yes. From 490 to 540 in March, then they demanded 1200 and finally settled for 1000. They had the right to evict at will, so they can demand whatever they want. I understand why rent control has its reasons, because for a business it is a major hardship to be evicted, so one may be forced to settle for more then one would pay elsewhere.

Rio de Janeiro and Brazilian real estate market is exploding.

http://www.economist.com/node/18651524

Real estate tripled in the last 5 years, and there are good reasons to believe it is not a bubble. Of course, rental values go up, similarly.

icymelon 08-27-2011 02:13 AM

I think california has a cap on how much you can raise the rent

xenigo 08-27-2011 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by curiousdog (Post 18383254)
Real estate tripled in the last 5 years, and there are good reasons to believe it is not a bubble. Of course, rental values go up, similarly.

You know, nobody here in the US believed in the RE bubble. Those dollars were votes of confidence... and it's gone, baby gone.


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