I swear, I was in a car with my younger sister driving once on a Southern California freeway, and she started to put on fucking mascara!!! while she was driving!! I freaked out on her. :1orglaugh

She's been in like 10 car accidents, or something like that. Gee, I wonder why. lol

Yeah my Grandfather who was from France, always talked about having to drive a stick on an uphill slope, some big vehicle too and you had to accelerate and not roll backwards. Something like that.

In USA, we have terrible drivers no doubt.

i have been driving about 2000 kilometer last week, 2/3 of that on german autobahn. when it's not limited i do around 220-230 kph - because it's legal and because i can. and not once there was a "dangerous" situation.

but after driving in the US and seeing how people drive and what they do while driving i think you should keep your speed limits ;)

I think everyone should have to retake their driving test every 5-10 years or something. I also believe the driving age should be raised to 18. Too many young, inexperienced kids and too many old people. Mix that with minivan moms and you're on the road with some crazy drivers. Like your sister, lol.

Oh yeah, that's what we need. People texting and driving @ 100 MPH.

Whether on the city or highway, there is not a day that goes by I do not cross at least a dozen people swerving all over the road, or not paying attention while driving. When I pull up along side them and look over.... texting. It doesn't matter if it's on a 4 lane highways over in Detroit going to a concert, or just zipping around town here locally. Same issues regardless.

I think I'll pass on the no speed limits while texting statutes. It's hard enough for them to eat, drink a fowtie, smoke, and swat at a kid in the back seat at the same time.

:disgust

This is probably the issue this whole discussion revolves around. These are the people who need to be aggressively cited for distracted driving. Realistically they shouldn't even have licenses. The system we currently rely on has obviously failed us.

They need to go through intense remedial training, and the requirements for driving need to be raised considerably.

Really what I'd like to see is that everyone is required to pass a driving test for vehicles in every performance category, so they have a vivid, crystal clear understanding of the safety involved on the road. Firstly, drive a Ferrari at the limits. Know the limits they're capable of. Handling limits, braking limits. They need to understand that when one of these vehicles passes them while driving their Honda Odyssey with 12 kids crammed in the back, with their passive-aggressive "Baby On Board!" sign clipped in the rear window, they're not "putting their families at risk" by passing at a rapid speed. I bet they'll be much more inclined to practice lane courtesy when they know what that guy in the Ferrari is capable of doing.

Then they'll be required to drive an economy car at the limits. And then a motorcycle. The better you can put yourself in the shoes of the other person on the road, the better you can anticipate their actions, and respect them, without getting your panties in a wad.

I want people to have an amazing understanding of how quickly you're able to take a turn, without being fearful of losing control of your car. Here in the Bay Area, when I'm turning left at a major intersection... It's not an uncommon occurrence for the person in front of me to be going less than 5mph through the intersection when our light turns green. It's like they're literally afraid of their car. They are so fearful of exceeding the performance threshold of their vehicles turning capabilities, they create MAJOR congestion by doing things just like this.

People have zero concept of what it means to drive efficiently. We need an aggressive training program in place that requires people understand what it means to be an effective driver, before they're issued licenses.

no speed limit would be fun.
lots of rednecks and douchebags would supercharge their cars to drive 200.
lots of drag racing....
you think this would make roads safer?

Making drugs legal would be fun. We'd all shoot heroine all day long. I'd finally try the black tar heroine that I've always wanted to use. I'd share needles with you. We'd snort cocaine until our hearts stopped. Maybe we'd play with guns, and violently beat our wives with baseball bats. Then we'd go on killing rampages. You know, for sport.

Would that make society safer?

Exactly man! I swear, in florida at least, people seeing a cop are the #1 cause of accidents. It's the old people that are already doing 5mph under the limit and slam on their brakes at the sight of a cop.

well at least theres a few of us who believe this.

Speed limits are here to stay because speeding tickets bring in a shit load of revenue to cities & towns every day. Without this revenue, a lot of cities & towns would be in deep shit.

For over 10 years I've waited to say this.


SEE SIG :)

Rofl. Any argument this person intended to win was instantly lost. Unless his name Schumaker or Andretti - he (or she) certainly can not.

Another suburban asshole thinking he can drive 120+ mph because he owns an import.

Speed limits are absolutely necessary.

I'm glad you're amused by the fact that I own an import. I think you're the only one, however. Ever done any research on where your Whateverthefuck comes from?

Go back and read the articles I posted. Read my argument. Read the issue.

And then think.

And then respond.

You will then understand this is not for my personal amusement.

If that was the Modern Marvels Autobahn episode,do you remember the opening scenes.
A RUF at night on the autobahn with a camera man wedged in the back topping out at over 200mph at night.

speed limits = fags and pussies.

I think it should be more like Philippines where everyone drives all over the fucking place.

Hahaha:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What do you suggest to suppliment the income provided by speeding tickets? The money has to come from somewhere.

i have a friend who is test driver for RUF - it's his job to do Vmax tests at night. And yes, that can be also more than 200 mp/h :)

it's him behind the wheel here in the new RT 12 r - which does 230 mp/h :)

http://www.mo-web.de/typo3temp/pics/e2d5bd35a8.jpg

and btw - it's amazing how many of you defend the right to have arms almost with their lives but get all excited because some people like to drive fast (where it is allowed)

speed limits? wtf you are talking about? <3 germany

Germany has speed limits. :2 cents:

yeah, from my recent trip i'd say 70% is limited. very annoying.

Give the slowpokes tickets for hogging the passing lane instead. They're easier to catch and there's more of them.

And then there's those ass wipes who never use turn signals.

Think outside the box.

Given the stats posted by the OP, I gotta figure that there's a lot of folks named Schumaker and Andretti in both Germany and Montana.

The biggest problem with the US is we have too many rules. People can't think for themselves and walk around half neutered. We need to set extreme limits and let people fend for themselves.

Less law stricter penalties.

I said that to my girlfriend last night. That was around the time when she called me a Libertarian. Hmmmm...

I agree with that. The fact that there's a fucking court system for speeding tickets, which do not bring in very much directly per ticket...I mean how much money is wasted in that process, especially if the police officer is present, any lawyers are involved, all the admin costs for that crap, etc.

I believe speeding tickets end up making more for INSURANCE COMPANIES than for governments. In general, government needs to look at where it is completely wasting money, and wasting money on legalities involving speeding tickets is certainly one of them. They may get some money from it, but they would do better to just have stricter penalties on laws that aren't completely stupid.

As someone said, natural traffic in Cali, especially going to/from LA, is 75-80 MPH. That means any and all of those drivers are breaking the law and can be pulled over and given a ticket. And they're not driving unsafely...in fact, the fucking DMV says to enter the freeway at the speed of traffic!

It's just ludicrous. Cities need to make more money? Attach more penalties to DUI or whatnot.

Kill the speed limits and let the free market decide who lives and dies.

Ran right into a Lidar speed trap going 100mph tonight heading back into the city.

Clocked me at 90 because of the steep angle from the lane I was in. Wrote me up at 80.

I guess the revenue fills a few pot holes, right? :)

Any solid strategy on how to fight it?