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Old 08-23-2011, 06:32 PM   #1
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Four Year-Old American Child Killed By Illegal Immigrant

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAKT1KQCNH.DTL

Santa Rosa man charged in hit-run death of boy, 4

Demian Bulwa, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, August 23, 2011

SANTA ROSA -- Sonoma County prosecutors filed charges Monday against an allegedly unlicensed driver who authorities say ran over a 4-year-old boy in a Santa Rosa crosswalk and sped off.

Marcos Lopez Garcia, 22, was charged in Superior Court with felony hit-and-run as well as two misdemeanors, vehicular manslaughter and driving without a valid license. He made an initial court appearance Monday but did not enter a plea.

Garcia, who is being held without bail because federal officials suspect him of being an illegal immigrant, has two previous arrests for driving without a license, records show. Five days before Thursday's crash, police said, he was told not to drive until a court appearance in October.

Garcia was charged in connection with the crash that killed 4-year-old Christopher "Buddy" Rowe of Santa Rosa, who was on his way to soccer practice.

Christopher was hit at about 6 p.m. at West Ninth Street and Rockwell Place near Jacobs Park while crossing with his mother, his twin sister and his 6-year-old sister. He clung to life at Children's Hospital Oakland, but "his heart finally gave way" Friday morning, his family said in a statement Monday.

"Little Buddy will be remembered as an energetic, curious, active young boy who was also kind, compassionate and caring, especially with his twin sister," the family said. "We will always remember his ever-present smile, beautiful steel blue eyes and peace-loving nature.

"The man who stole Buddy's life from us will be one day free," the family said, "but we will always carry the burden of losing him forever."

Christopher and his family were crossing West Ninth in a marked crosswalk when he was hit by a westbound Honda Accord, police said. The car drove away from the intersection, which has no stop signs or signals.

Soon, a 47-year-old Santa Rosa man named Leroy Flach - who heard about the crash on his police scanner - spotted the car at Finley Park, less than a mile from the crash. He said he had called police after he saw the driver peeling off an orange San Francisco Giants decal from the rear window.

The man got into a Volvo driven by a woman, Flach said. He relayed the license plate number to police, who by 8 p.m. had found and arrested Garcia, 22, who lives near Jacobs Park.

Christopher is survived by his parents, James Rowe Jr. and Michelle Rowe; his older sister, Mimi; and his twin sister, Julia; as well as grandparents, uncles and cousins.

A memorial service is scheduled for 3 p.m. Sunday at St. Eugene's Cathedral in Santa Rosa.

The family asks that condolences and donations be sent to the Christopher Rowe Memorial Fund, 1007 W. College Ave., No. 313, Santa Rosa, CA 95401. For more information, go to www.christopherbuddyrowe.com.

E-mail Demian Bulwa at [email protected]."

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I suspect more Americans killed are killed by fellow Americans than illegals.
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Do you have stats on transvestite murderers? I figure you would, since its something a little closer to home for an angry, middle aged weirdo posing as a woman.
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I suspect more Americans killed are killed by fellow Americans than illegals.
I suspect that makes no difference but thank you for the obvious Red Herring!

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Do you have stats on transvestite murderers? I figure you would, since its something a little closer to home for an angry, middle aged weirdo posing as a woman.
You're only pissed off at yourself because you were taken in by the harmless deception.

Sucker!

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You're only pissed off at yourself because you were taken in by the harmless deception.

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Uhm.. yeah. You're just so clever and convincing. I could attempt to go back and look research the exact amount of time you had people fooled, but i suspect it was somewhere between you registering the username and receiving the confirmation email.
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I wonder if unwelcome Americans ever kill children in other countries? Oh that's right. Kind of hard to take the moral high ground on that one.
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this country was built by "illegal" immigrants ...don't ever forget that
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Uhm.. yeah. You're just so clever and convincing. I could attempt to go back and look research the exact amount of time you had people fooled, but i suspect it was somewhere between you registering the username and receiving the confirmation email.

Why don't you?

I've got enough to do without pandering to the likes of you.

Go back to your moldy bread dough, mkay?

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I suspect that makes no difference but thank you for the obvious Red Herring!

What is the original issue? Are you trying to say that the fact that he was an illegal immigrant has ANY significance in this case?
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If anyone thinks that the OPs post is bad then read up on "Aso Mohammed Ibrahim" over here in the UK, I would gladly do time if i ever met him. He would die in the worst way possible.
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this country was built by "illegal" immigrants ...don't ever forget that
Actually not true and an outright lie!

Ever hear of Ellis Island?

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this country was built by "illegal" immigrants ...don't ever forget that
My grand parents and great grand parents came from Europe. The came legally, learned english, worked, observed the law, paid taxes. Please don't confuse them with those that sneak into our country at night.

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What is the original issue? Are you trying to say that the fact that he was an illegal immigrant has ANY significance in this case?
I simply reported the facts as written in the article.

I have drawn no conclusions and in fact, leave the drawing of conclusions to you and your vivid imagination.

I reported just the facts Ma'am!

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My grand parents and great grand parents came from Europe. The came legally, learned english, worked, observed the law, paid taxes. Please don't confuse them with those that sneak into our country at night.

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My Grandfather who spoke German at home in his very prim and proper Kaiserliches Haus, joined the US Navy in World War One to fight against the Kaiser.

He joined up as an AMERICAN!

His mates called him "Fritz" and "Squarehead" but he was accepted as an AMERICAN in the service of HIS country!

He wore a proper flattop haircut until his passing but had shed the typical handlebar moustache in the late Twenties.
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lol @ the transvestite post

marion lynn youre such a fucking loser, just give up already.
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lol @ the transvestite post

marion lynn youre such a fucking loser, just give up already.
And you Sir or Madam are a screwball, a hater, a troll and a dimwit.

You cannot change these things and when you wake up in the morning you will still be a screwball, a hater, a troll and a dimwit.

I, on the other hand may well be someone else!

Or just me.

Depends on my mood and how much fun I'm in the mood for.

LOL!

My Gawd some of the people around here are such hating idiots!
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so you trying to say you want a ban on illegal immigrants AND pitbulls?

Btw: I never really understood how it can be possible that a human being born on this planet, can be labeled as "illegal"... think about that for a sec...
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its like a broken record. their not suppose to be here in the first place and now the citizens will be paying for his home/vacation
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If anyone thinks that the OPs post is bad then read up on "Aso Mohammed Ibrahim" over here in the UK, I would gladly do time if i ever met him. He would die in the worst way possible.
Looked up that one myself and found this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-stay-UK.html

"Asylum seeker who left girl, 12, to die after hit-and-run can stay in UK... thanks to the Human Rights Act David Cameron promised her father he'd scrap"

" Father says 'criminals have free rein' after losing battle to deport driver
Failed asylum seeker Aso Mohammed Ibrahim had a string of convictions
Outcome 'may have been different' if Iraqi didn't have children, judges say

David Cameron was accused last night of breaking a personal pledge to scrap the Human Rights Act after a failed asylum seeker who killed a 12-year-old girl used the discredited law to stay in Britain.

Aso Mohammed Ibrahim knocked down Amy Houston and left her to ?die like a dog? under the wheels of his car. He was driving while disqualified and after the little girl?s death he committed a string of further offences.

Earlier this year Mr Cameron wrote to Amy?s father promising reforms that would ensure ?that rights are better balanced against responsibilities?.

He said the Human Rights Act would be replaced by a British Bill of Rights.

But yesterday Ibrahim, an Iraqi Kurd, won his lengthy fight to stay in Britain.
Aso Mohammed Ibrahim
Amy Houston

'Ridiculous': Aso Mohammed Ibrahim will be allowed to remain in the UK despite leaving Amy Houston, 12, dying under the wheels of his car in November 2003, because deporting him would 'breach his human rights'

Immigration judges ruled that sending him home would breach his right to a ?private and family life? as he has now fathered two children in the UK.

Last night Amy?s father Paul branded the Act an ?abomination to civilised society?.

He said: ?This decision shows the Human Rights Act to be nothing more than a charter for thieves, killers, terrorists and illegal immigrants.?

The ruling heaped pressure on Mr Cameron to reinstate a Tory pre-election pledge to abolish the HRA and replace it with a British Bill of Rights. He stated that pledge unequivocally in a letter to Mr Houston, written in January when he was still Leader of the Opposition, and shortly after the death of his son Ivan.

It began: ?As someone who sadly has been recently bereaved, I do have a little idea of what you must have been through.?

Last night Mr Houston, a 41-year-old engineer, made a direct plea to Mr Cameron to think again.

He said: ?He needs to take a long, hard look at himself and make the right decision for this country because as it stands the Human Rights Act is on the side of criminals, terrorists and thieves against law-abiding citizens.

?He wrote to me to say he would bring in the British Bill of Rights but that appears to have been put in the back burner because of the Coalition.

?I don?t want to see this matter sidelined. I think it needs to be placed very firmly on the agenda again. If he has got the courage of his convictions that is what he will do.
Angry: Paul Houston, father of Amy, said today: 'This is a perversity of our society.'

Angry: Paul Houston, father of Amy, said today: 'This is a perversity of our society'

?The law does need to be changed so that it properly represents everyone ? not just this awful minority who ruin people?s lives.?

Mr Houston, of Darwen, Lancashire, said he was ?absolutely devastated? by the decision to allow Ibrahim to stay in the country indefinitely.

?How can he say he?s deprived of his right to a family life? The only person deprived of a family life is me. Amy was my family.?

Amy was Mr Houston?s only child and for medical reasons he is unable to have any more children.

The case fuelled deep concern on the Tory backbenches. One MP branded the Act the ?Criminals? Rights Act? and repeated calls for it to be scrapped.

No minister was prepared to comment directly about the case, but Downing Street issued a statement ?sharing Mr Houston?s anger?. The UK Border Agency said it was ?extremely disappointed? with the decision.

Ibrahim, now 33, arrived in Britain hidden in the back of a lorry in January 2001. His application for asylum was refused and a subsequent appeal in November 2002 failed, but he was never sent home.

In 2003, while serving a nine-month driving ban for not having insurance or a licence, he ploughed into Amy near her mother?s home in Blackburn.

He ran away, leaving her conscious and trapped beneath the wheels of his black Rover. Six hours later her father had to take the heartbreaking decision to turn off her life-support system.

But despite leaving Amy to die, Ibrahim was jailed for just four months after admitting driving while disqualified and failing to stop after an accident.

Since his release from prison he has accrued a string of further convictions, including more driving offences, harassment and cautions for burglary and theft.

'The image of Amy taking her final breath, dying a foot away from me as I sat by her bedside holding her hand praying for a miracle, will stay with me till the day I die.'


He also met a British woman, Christina Richardson, and fathered two children with her, Harry, four, and Zara, three.

Border Agency officials finally began attempts to remove him from the country in October 2008.

Ibrahim?s lawyers argued sending him back to Iraq would breach Article 8 of the Human Rights Act, which guarantees his right to a private and family life with his children.

When the case first came before an immigration judge in June last year, Home Office lawyers said Ibrahim should be removed because of his persistent criminality.

Ibrahim told the court he had became a father figure to Miss Richardson?s two children from a previous relationship and was even helping them with their homework.

This account was dismissed as ?clearly not credible? after Ibrahim admitted he could barely speak English.

The judge accepted that Ibrahim?s behaviour was ?abhorrent? and branded his evidence ?contradictory and unsatisfactory?. However he ruled that he had developed a ?significant and substantial? relationship with the children and was acting as their father.
Only child: Amy's death deprived Mr Houston of family life as he is unable to have further children

Only child: Amy's death deprived Mr Houston of family life as he is unable to have further children

The UK Border Agency launched an appeal against the decision. Lawyers for the agency argued that there was little evidence that he was living at the same address as his own children.

But yesterday the Upper Immigration Tribunal threw out the appeal, saying the judge had considered the case in a ?legally correct? way.

In a letter to the tribunal, Mr Houston made an impassioned plea for Ibrahim to be sent back to Iraq, saying his right to a family life with Amy should outweigh the rights of Ibrahim.

He wrote: ?On the evening of November 23 2003, Mr Ibrahim struck Amy. He didn?t kill her outright, she was still conscious.

?She was fully aware of what was happening around her even though she had the full weight of the engine block of the car on top of her, she was crying because she was frightened and in a lot of pain... he could have at least tried to help.

?Amy suffered for six hours before the doctors advised me to switch off the life support machine . . . it was highly unlikely she would survive and if she was to live would be a ?cabbage?.

?The image of Amy taking her final breath, dying a foot away from me as I sat by her bedside holding her hand praying for a miracle, will stay with me till the day I die.?

Last night Mr Houston said: ?No wonder asylum seekers are queuing up at the borders to get in when they see decisions like this.

?They realise that whatever they do, be it burglar, rape or murder, they can use the laws to ensure they are able to stay in Britain. ?The immigration judges have ruled he had a right to a family life.

What about my right to a family life with my daughter?

?That was taken away in the most horrendously cruel fashion by a serial criminal who has never contributed to our society.?

He pledged to continue his seven-year fight for justice and is seeking legal advice over the possibility of a judicial review.

Ministers are considering whether to take the case to the Court of Appeal.
David Cameron wrote a letter to Mr Houston offering his condolences and telling him of his plans to change the law

Backbench Tory MPs said the case showed how the Human Rights Act was preventing ministers from controlling Britain?s borders.

MP Douglas Carswell said: ?If we take the tribunal?s findings to their logical conclusion we would leave an open door to the world.?

This is the latest in a string of cases to provoke outrage over the Act.

Last month Learco Chindamo, who stabbed headmaster Philip Lawrence to death, was returned to jail over an alleged robbery.

In opposition, the Prime Minister cited the failure to deport Chindamo as a prime reason why the law should be scrapped.

The Tories campaigned on a promise to bring in a British Bill of Rights to replace Labour?s Human Rights Act, but within weeks of the General Election result, the pledge was downgraded and replaced by a commitment to a review, effectively kicking the policy into the long grass.

A Downing Street spokesman said: ?We fully understand Mr Houston?s distress and frustration at what has happened, and we share his anger.

?The Government is committed to establishing a Commission during 2011 to investigate the creation of a UK Bill of Rights that protects and extends British liberties."
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I simply reported the facts as written in the article.

I have drawn no conclusions and in fact, leave the drawing of conclusions to you and your vivid imagination.

I reported just the facts Ma'am!

You included "by illegal immigrant" in the heading/title which is typically done to draw attention to important facts in the story...

so do you agree that the fact that he was an illegal immigrants has no significance in this story?
If not, what is the significance of the fact that he was an illegal immigrant?
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are you that fucking starved for attention that you have to resort to this sort of shit ?

you're a real fucking loser marion
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"federal officials suspect him of being an illegal immigrant"

so actually it's quite possible that he is not even an illegal immigrant like you claimed in the title...
you are the one that jumped to conclusions...
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You included "by illegal immigrant" in the heading/title which is typically done to draw attention to important facts in the story...

so do you agree that the fact that he was an illegal immigrants has no significance in this story?
If not, what is the significance of the fact that he was an illegal immigrant?
Only quoted from the article:

"Garcia, who is being held without bail because federal officials suspect him of being an illegal immigrant, has two previous arrests for driving without a license, records show. Five days before Thursday's crash, police said, he was told not to drive until a court appearance in October."

I don't agree to a Goddamned thing as I have drawn no conclusions but only reported the facts as they have appeared.

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What about all the illegals that Americans kill for no reason? The story is sad, but a legal american is no better than an illegal american. They're both humans and are known for doing stupid shit.
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What about all the illegals that Americans kill for no reason? The story is sad, but a legal american is no better than an illegal american. They're both humans and are known for doing stupid shit.
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:20 PM   #30
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i have to admit though you do seem like a really good copy and paster

you go girl
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i have to admit though you do seem like a really good copy and paster

you go girl
And you just keep huntin' that gas although I don't know why you feel you need to.

You are nothing but an over-bloated gasbag anyway, seemingly on auto-pilot and self-regeneration.

Gasbags eventually crash:

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I wonder if unwelcome Americans ever kill children in other countries? Oh that's right. Kind of hard to take the moral high ground on that one.
Nah, us Americans can do no wrong don't ya know?

Umm, except this time, or this time oh yeah and this time but other than that, nah.
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Umm, except this time, or this time oh yeah and this time but other than that, nah.
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Using the death of a 4 year old boy to make a nationalist and racist political point.

I'm pretty sure that's worse than a red herring.

/me slaps you with a trout.
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I suspect that makes no difference but thank you for the obvious Red Herring!

it doesn't? So American on American murder is ok? it's only when Mexicans and pit bulls do it then it's an issue.
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Using the death of a 4 year old boy to make a nationalist and racist political point.

I'm pretty sure that's worse than a red herring.

/me slaps you with a trout.
I fucking DEFY you to show that I have made any sort of "RACIST" comment in this thread.

I fucking DEFY you to show that I have made any sort of "NATIONALIST" comment in this thread.

I SLAP you with a CHAIN MAIL GLOVE and fucking call you OUT to PROVE your half-assed and bogus allegation!

I QUOTED from the fucking article!

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it doesn't? So American on American murder is ok? it's only when Mexicans and pit bulls do it then it's an issue.
The only person who has suggested such things is yourself and you have given away the fact of what a completely sick mind you have in addition to:

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I fucking DEFY you to show that I have made any sort of "RACIST" comment in this thread.

I fucking DEFY you to show that I have made any sort of "NATIONALIST" comment in this thread.

I SLAP you with a CHAIN MAIL GLOVE and fucking call you OUT to PROVE your half-assed and bogus allegation!

I QUOTED from the fucking article!

ok FUCKTARD. Why are you getting so riled up about THIS case and not the hundreds cases a year of American kids being killed by Americans then? what is different about this case?
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Perhaps this illegal could not read English and this could cause a higher probability of the accident to happen.

The fact that he is illegal--- might have also caused him to flee the accident.

(Either way, its heartless)

Here in Houston... the last 3-4 police officers killed in the line of duty have been killed by Illegal Immigrants.

More info: http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/06/01/...ns-since-2006/
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I fucking DEFY you to show that I have made any sort of "RACIST" comment in this thread.

I fucking DEFY you to show that I have made any sort of "NATIONALIST" comment in this thread.

I SLAP you with a CHAIN MAIL GLOVE and fucking call you OUT to PROVE your half-assed and bogus allegation!

I QUOTED from the fucking article!

If I quote from Mein Kempf, am I being racist? Or am I just copying and pasting? I guess it depends on my intentions. If I dress up like the KKK on halloween, is it just a white sheet?
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>>>>> Garcia, who is being held without bail because federal officials suspect him of being an illegal immigrant, has two previous arrests for driving without a license, records show. Five days before Thursday's crash, police said, he was told not to drive until a court appearance in October.


He should fry.
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ok FUCKTARD. Why are you getting so riled up about THIS case and not the hundreds cases a year of American kids being killed by Americans then? what is different about this case?
Hey Gator, He/she/it is just looking for attention.

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I suspect SallyRand got picked last in gym class a lot for team sports
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If I quote from Mein Kempf, am I being racist? Or am I just copying and pasting? I guess it depends on my intentions. If I dress up like the KKK on halloween, is it just a white sheet?
I give up.

I have no control or influence over what you do or whatever kind of odd thinking in which you engage.

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ok FUCKTARD. Why are you getting so riled up about THIS case and not the hundreds cases a year of American kids being killed by Americans then? what is different about this case?


Ran across this incident on a news site and felt that it deserved further publication.

Just what is YOUR issue wih the FACTS?
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I fucking DEFY you to show that I have made any sort of "RACIST" comment in this thread.

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I SLAP you with a CHAIN MAIL GLOVE and fucking call you OUT to PROVE your half-assed and bogus allegation!

I QUOTED from the fucking article!

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I suspect SallyRand got picked last in gym class a lot for team sports
It was probably because of these:

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