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Old 08-16-2011, 10:30 PM   #1
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One of the saddest days in my life

On of my best friends committed suicide. She just couldn't go on. She was the victim of a genocide plan, she saved her life but her parents were disappeared. She knew her brother was born in a concentration camp just before her mother was killed. He's still missing, although we're still looking for him. She grew oh so strong but in the end, the pain was too big for her. It's believed someone gave her false information about her brother being found and that he died last year. I saw her cry so much. I saw her cry while fighting. Now I doubt she even had a tear to shed before she jumped.

I don't even know why I'm sharing this here. There's a friend or a relative who might be waiting for your call. Or a hug. Just do it the way I can't do it anymore.

So beautiful V, now young forever and forever with us. Hasta la victoria siempre.
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:44 PM   #2
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Harvey, I am very sorry for your loss.

I thought the Dirty War was long past in Argentina. What is the current state of things regarding the current genocide you speak of (a link would be fine)?

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Old 08-16-2011, 10:49 PM   #3
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Sorry to hear about your friend Harvey. Life is cruel, sometimes there is nothing we can do to help heal the wounds of friends and family. We should try though. People aren't objects, when we break sometimes it's impossible to put things back together in one piece.

I don't believe suicide is a good solution to almost anything but intractable physical or mental pain but I understand how people can feel that it is.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:51 AM   #4
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Friend of mine I used to play poker with just killed himself too.

Strange guy. Made Joaquin Phoenix look normal. Fun to play with though... Had some really great insights on movies...
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:53 AM   #5
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sorry to hear. death sucks.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:55 AM   #6
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Sad indeed.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:55 AM   #7
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Concentration camp? Did your great grandmother die?

I am calling copy/paste
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:58 AM   #8
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Sorry to hear that. Hang on Harvey.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:58 AM   #9
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Concentration camp? Did your great grandmother die?

I am calling copy/paste
I'm calling your history teacher.

http://wikis.lib.ncsu.edu/index.php/Argentine_Dirty_War

Sorry to hear about that Harvey, that really sucks.
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:01 AM   #10
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Concentration camp? Did your great grandmother die?

I am calling copy/paste
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War

Moron.
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:01 AM   #11
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I'm calling your history teacher.

http://wikis.lib.ncsu.edu/index.php/Argentine_Dirty_War

Sorry to hear about that Harvey, that really sucks.
*insert foot in in mouth*

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Old 08-17-2011, 11:03 AM   #12
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Sorry to hear that Harvey. My condolences.
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:05 AM   #13
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I'm calling your history teacher.

http://wikis.lib.ncsu.edu/index.php/Argentine_Dirty_War

Sorry to hear about that Harvey, that really sucks.



Sad end for your friend Harvey...
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:06 AM   #14
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*insert foot in in mouth*

to be honest i never learned about this in school (u.s.), and if you look into "operation condor" you'll see why it was never taught in U.S. schools. its some sick shit.
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Old 08-17-2011, 12:57 PM   #15
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no problem Harmon, many people around the world doesn't know what happened here, many people here still doesn't know the magnitude of what happened, not even those of us who have a deep involvement in the subject. Last week we found the #102 "appropriated kid" and she recovered her real identity. We know there are still around 400 to be found, including my friend's brother.

The sequels of what happened are even worse than what happened itself, as terrible as it was. Suicide, chronic psychological and psychiatric issues are just everyday's things, not to mention the problems on a whole social level. There are thousands of books, studies and documentaries on the subject so I won't extend anymore, just say that the decision she made is tragic and sad, but not a surprise. The culprits, their families, former secret services and so on are specialists in playing the strings on those more affected by this tragedy, and some fucker got what he was searching for.

You know what? As sad as I am, I just came from her funeral. Thousands of people were present to say good bye, or like we say here "Presente", a way to let the world she will never leave us. Hundreds of flags, newspapers mourning her, even the President sending flowers. In many public places it was declared a day of mourning and flags are half-mast. Her murderers, her family murderers, even the family of them have to be hidden and they're avoided like the plague.

In some way, we knew V was murdered 34 years ago, she just stood around to help us keep going
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:02 PM   #16
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Sorry for your loss, my condolences RIP V.
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:03 PM   #17
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My condolences Harvey! RIP.
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:28 PM   #19
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