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Old 08-14-2011, 06:46 PM   #1
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:mad Pakistan let China access bin Laden raid 'stealth' chopper

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ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan gave China access to the previously unknown U.S. "stealth" helicopter that crashed during the commando raid that killed Osama bin Laden in May despite explicit requests from the CIA not to, the Financial Times reported on Sunday.

The disclosure, if confirmed, is likely to further shake the U.S.-Pakistan relationship, which has been improving slightly after hitting its lowest point in decades following the killing of bin Laden.

During the raid, one of two modified Blackhawk helicopters, believed to employ unknown stealth capability, malfunctioned and crashed, forcing the commandos to abandon it.

"The U.S. now has information that Pakistan, particularly the ISI, gave access to the Chinese military to the downed helicopter in Abbottabad," the paper quoted a person "in intelligence circles" as saying on its website.

It said Pakistan, which enjoys a close relationship with China, allowed Chinese intelligence officials to take pictures of the crashed aircraft as well as take samples of its special "skin" that allowed the American raid to evade Pakistani radar.

One U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters there was reason to believe Pakistan had allowed the Chinese to inspect the aircraft. But the official could not confirm it happened with certainty.

No one from the Pakistani army was available for comment, but the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), Pakistan's top spy agency, denied the report. The paper said Pakistan's top general, chief of army staff Ashfaq Kayani, denied that China had been given access.

The surviving tail section, photos of which were widely distributed on the Internet, was returned to the United States following a trip by U.S. Senator John Kerry in May, a spokesman for the U.S. embassy told Reuters.

Shortly after the raid, Pakistan hinted that it might give China access to the helicopter, given its fury over the raid, which it considers a grievous violation of its sovereignty.

"We had explicitly asked the Pakistanis in the immediate aftermath of the raid not to let anyone have access to the damaged remains of the helicopter," the Financial Times quoted the source as saying.

In an incident such as the helicopter crash, it is standard American procedure to destroy sophisticated technology such as encrypted communications and navigation computers.

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Pakistan is a strategic ally to the United States but the relationship has been on a downward spiral since the killing of the al Qaeda leader in the raid by U.S. forces.

Islamabad was not informed in advance and responded by cutting back on U.S. trainers in the country and placing limits on CIA activities there.

The fact that the al Qaeda chief lived for years near the Pakistani army's main academy in the northwestern garrison town of Abbottabad reinforced suspicions in Washington about Islamabad's reliability in the war against militant Islamists.

There are also growing frustrations with Pakistan over its reluctance to mount offensives against militant factions in the northwest who are fighting U.S.-led foreign forces across the border in Afghanistan.

In a show of displeasure over Pakistan's cutback in U.S. trainers, its limits on visas for U.S. personnel and other bilateral irritants, the United States has suspended about a third of its $2.7 billion annual defense aid to Pakistan.

Despite this, both sides have tried to prevent a breakdown of relations.

The head of Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Lieutenant-General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, visited the United States last month for talks with U.S. government and intelligence officials, which both sides said went well.

Despite the billions in aid, Pakistan still considers China a more reliable ally than the United States. China is a major investor in predominantly Muslim Pakistan in areas such as telecommunications, ports and infrastructure. The countries are linked by a Chinese-built road pushed through Pakistan's northern mountains.

Trade with Pakistan is worth almost $9 billion a year for Pakistan, and China is its top arms supplier.

In the wake of attacks that left 11 people dead in the China's western region of Xinjiang in late July, Pakistan dispatched the ISI's Pasha to Beijing.

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Old 08-14-2011, 07:27 PM   #2
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Fuck China?

Should it be, fuck Pakistan?
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Didn't the USA steal the great wall of Mexico idea from China ?
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Didn't the USA steal the great wall of Mexico idea from China ?
If that were true, it wouldnt be called the Great Wall of Mexico.
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Hey mcpheer not seen you on here in ages. want a mcchicken sandwich?
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Should it be, fuck Pakistan?
china is paying their bills
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It's a smart move by Pakistan. A relationship with China is just as, if not more important than a relationship with the US, given the recent rough patch.
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Fuck China?

Should it be, fuck Pakistan?
Don't expect too much of american reasoning ...

Like if the USA would not go see a chineese chopper if Pakistan offered ...
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Don't expect too much of american reasoning ...

Like if the USA would not go see a chineese chopper if Pakistan offered ...
ironic isnt it
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:18 PM   #12
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haha what a noobs again.
trillions of dollars spend on new stealth technology and the first time it is being used it is in Chinese hand again just like the 4th Generation fighter jets in Serbia for FREE.
This chinese must be laughing their asses off. Saved trillions of dollars with this sample stealthcopter.
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Don't expect too much of american reasoning ...

Like if the USA would not go see a chineese chopper if Pakistan offered ...
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If true, just proof Pakistan has been fucking us all along... as suspected by many.

Or it could be propaganda to build up a case for war against Pakistan.

Another war will surely get us out of this financial mess. We will spend our way back to prosperity!
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since the chinese have already infiltrated all sensitive US military computer networks they probly didn't learn anything they didn't already know.
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Don't expect too much of american reasoning ...

Like if the USA would not go see a chineese chopper if Pakistan offered ...

Why would the US want to see any Chinese made crap? I'm sure we we're dying to learn things from the great innovators, the Chinese.
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Why would the US want to see any Chinese made crap? I'm sure we we're dying to learn things from the great innovators, the Chinese.
seriously??? of course they want to know everything they can about the "chinese made crap". Thats a ridiculous statement.
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Interesting... why do you think that was the first time it was used?
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If there is one thing the Chinese are good at is copying products and making knock off's ... ;)

Here is pictures of the tail that I found...



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All is fair in war. That's what the US gets for not being there the next day to get the remains of their craft.

One thing is for sure, and that is the US should cut off aid to Pakistan. But I can't blame Pakistan for getting cozy with China, as they are going to soon be the world super power.
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We should have said fuck you to Pakistan a long time ago. The only reason they even pretend to work with us is because we give them money.

They don't really help us much and they damn sure knew Bin Laden was living in their country. We should drop their support and double support to India and just let India fuck their shit in.

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We should have said fuck you to Pakistan a long time ago. The only reason they even pretend to work with us is because we give them money.

They don't really help us much and they damn sure knew Bin Laden was living in their country. We should drop their support and double support to India and just let India fuck their shit in.
amazing how your allies become ... your enemies ...
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"fuck china boohoo"
great to see propaganda form your opinions
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yet couldn't they decide where to bring democracy or what?
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lolz, pakistan prolly had a fucking heli viewing party with a free drinks & porn for the taliban, al queda, china, iran, all of em-

it was a get to the choppa party!


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Interesting... why do you think that was the first time it was used?
same reason he thinks trillions of dollars were spent on it.
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I was never really a fan of Pakistan. They really don't like us.
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lolz, pakistan prolly had a fucking heli viewing party with a free drinks & porn for the taliban, al queda, china, iran, all of em-

it was a get to the choppa party!




same reason he thinks trillions of dollars were spent on it.
forgot : North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela .... they were pretty pissed of being left out
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We should have said fuck you to Pakistan a long time ago. The only reason they even pretend to work with us is because we give them money.

They don't really help us much and they damn sure knew Bin Laden was living in their country. We should drop their support and double support to India and just let India fuck their shit in.



Unfortunately Your mid east politics were mostly wrong , You helped thrown of İran shah and these stupid Mollas came and later they got out of control,ßß+

You supported this ass hole pakistan government who are gambling with their own tax payers money by spending it on nukes,

Your support the Taleban caused these crazy bearded motherfuckers becoming head of that country, then got out of control,

Now You support so called justice and development party in Turkiye who are taking away our freedoms day by day which leads us to become a moderate iran.

As Americas being a super power, i would more than happy to see they're helping devestation of backward teocratic states, but they do the otherwise unfortunately.

actually i shouldn't be that unfair, they supported our current government because they want collapse of dictatorships were causing radicalism in middle east however they sacrifice our freedoms for the sake of it
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seriously??? of course they want to know everything they can about the "chinese made crap". Thats a ridiculous statement.
Does Ferrari give a shit about what Hyundai is doing? What have the Chinese innovated, tech-wise? Any worthwhile tech ever created has come from the US.

The Chinese and Russians just steal it.
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This implies that China is making a move to have an equal if not better tech than then rest of the world.
China has awaken, oh look at your mouse or keyboard it says "made in China"...
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We should share military intelligence and sell advanced weaponry it to India.

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haha what a noobs again.
trillions of dollars spend on new stealth technology and the first time it is being used it is in Chinese hand again just like the 4th Generation fighter jets in Serbia for FREE.
This chinese must be laughing their asses off. Saved trillions of dollars with this sample stealthcopter.
Did that f-117 went to china or Russia?
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I read it. I will think about it.
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Nooo, the chinese did that so they could send the details to the Hong Kong model kit makers, who in turn have released the geronimo stealth kit !

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The Chinese and Russians just steal it.
Hey Dumbo,,,,, the USA would like to know at which stage they are ... in their program ...

You guys are so fucking full of it that you cannot even understand what ' intelligence `is ... and we saw what that gave ...
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How comes america always manage to crash at least one helicopter on every "secret" mission they do?
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Why the fuck we discussing Pakistan here or politics. Stay out of politics and concentrate on porn how the fuck to improve signups and make more money
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You guys bashing china are brainwashed retards. What have they ever done to you?
And the US government better be friendly to china or the shit will hit the fan economically even more.
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who said keep your enemys closer wasn't thinking about friends like apkistan
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Ddidn't US "take a look" at MIG jet that flew in to Japan before they handed it back to Russians?
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They've been flying operations like these daily since 2001.
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