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  • Adraco
    Confirmed User
    • May 2009
    • 3745

    #16
    Originally posted by Paul&John
    Why haven't you signed up to the advertised affiliate programs and pushed those? There is really nobody to blame only the affiliates not supporting the program.
    Oh, but I guess that they will gladly keep all referral commission even after discontinuing the free version from all the webmasters who now have active accounts under them on all different kinds of sponsors.
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    • MetaMan
      I AM WEB 2.0
      • Jan 2003
      • 28682

      #17
      Originally posted by signupdamnit
      I always felt that $20 (nifty) - $30 (stats remote) a month was overpriced for the service. Especially in these times. $10 would be more reasonable in my opinion. Regardless, it is their business and their choice. They also are giving out a free 30 day trial so you are effectively getting 30 days notice.

      I think there is also another free alternative by a Russian who has been posting here. You might consider looking into what they are offering and supporting that project. There is a thread they keep posting to each time they add a new program and I noticed it is growing.
      $20 is overpriced? wtf are you smoking on?

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      • AmeliaG
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jan 2003
        • 10662

        #18
        It is always a bummer when the price for something goes up, but NiftyStats lets you see your saved passwords and everything, so it is not like they make it terribly difficult to use a different option or go back to checking individually. NiftyStats is not a church, charity, community group, art project, or government, so I don't get being angry at them for tweaking their business model to stay viable. Businesses do that.
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        • Paul&John
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2005
          • 8643

          #19
          Originally posted by signupdamnit
          Except you don't really know if it was affiliates not checking out the sponsors. That is just what they told you. It doesn't mean that they didn't decide to do it because according to their calculations they could make more by eliminating the free version. It's convenient to blame the webmasters so that it can be used as a counter if they bitch about having to pay.
          I think only they know the answer to this question.. but in the long-run is better to have a free version also (just to have people get used to the good life then upgrade).. so I think they would stay with free+paid versions if they made the same money with the free+paid then now without the free version

          Originally posted by Adraco
          Oh, but I guess that they will gladly keep all referral commission even after discontinuing the free version from all the webmasters who now have active accounts under them on all different kinds of sponsors.
          Hehe yes, but I think they were selling the ad spaces not showing their own ads (referral).
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          • 1215
            Boner Party
            • Aug 2004
            • 2408

            #20
            Originally posted by Paul&John
            I think only they know the answer to this question.. but in the long-run is better to have a free version also (just to have people get used to the good life then upgrade).. so I think they would stay with free+paid versions if they made the same money with the free+paid then now without the free version



            Hehe yes, but I think they were selling the ad spaces not showing their own ads (referral).
            i actually clicked ads if i wanted to check a new webmaster program. think i signed up for a few too. nifty was also one of the few things i ran on my sig at other forums for a while.

            but seriously, how many times can "count duh money" show up? either i wasn't interested or already signed up. i don't need to see it a million times to get the point.

            if they optimize their ads, they could probably do ok. but i don't think they did that at all.

            also, if they keep getting webmasters to sign up under them, under all these new programs with their own referral codes, then maybe webmasters will need to upgrade anyway. that means income from referrals and memberships, while still catering to the free members until they run enough programs to upgrade.

            in theory it could work. but in theory, taco bell meat is also real.
            Last edited by 1215; 08-11-2011, 02:43 PM.
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            • 1215
              Boner Party
              • Aug 2004
              • 2408

              #21
              Originally posted by Paul&John
              I think only they know the answer to this question.. but in the long-run is better to have a free version also (just to have people get used to the good life then upgrade).. so I think they would stay with free+paid versions if they made the same money with the free+paid then now without the free version



              Hehe yes, but I think they were selling the ad spaces not showing their own ads (referral).
              Originally posted by Wizzo
              Or maybe they were just buying in...
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              • Babaganoosh
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                • Nov 2001
                • 15841

                #22
                Originally posted by signupdamnit
                I have a 2003 American dime which I will gladly sell to you for $15 via Paypal. If you are not willing to pay that price then you should probably get a job, right?

                You see it isn't that simple. There is the question of the value of the product to the individual. It isn't just a matter of whether or not they can afford it.
                He used it when it was free. He cared enough to make a "fuck you" thread. That was time he could have used to manually check his stats which is what he's going to be doing if he can't/won't pay the asking price.

                Niftystats doesn't owe anyone anything. Pay the money and use the program or don't pay the money and get good with spreadsheets.
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                • Supz
                  Arthur Flegenheimer
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 11057

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Adraco
                  Oh, but I guess that they will gladly keep all referral commission even after discontinuing the free version from all the webmasters who now have active accounts under them on all different kinds of sponsors.
                  Why would there be referral commission on paid advertising?

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                  • Vjo
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 6082

                    #24
                    Id rather not flush $240 down the drain.

                    If it's free I'd use it but yes $20 a month is too much. I am in business too. Or trying to stay in business.

                    Ill get this cash-stats going or one of the other free ones.

                    Thanks for the link.

                    http://cash-stats.com/

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                    • Intrinsic
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1589

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Supz
                      Why would there be referral commission on paid advertising?
                      They didn't show ads for dildos to WMs.. they showed ads to promote affiliate programs, and when affiliates sign up under them they get 5-10% commission

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                      • georgeyw
                        58008 53773
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 9865

                        #26
                        Damn that's a shame, hadn't seen the Nifty Stats email yet.

                        Shame to say it, but I won't be paying $20 a month to check stats.
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                        • fuzebox
                          making it rain
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 22351

                          #27
                          Statsremote has saved me a ton of time over the years, but when I look back and realize that I have spent $2k+ on it it's kind of staggering.

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                          • Vjo
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 6082

                            #28
                            Originally posted by georgeyw
                            Shame to say it, but I won't be paying $20 a month to check stats.
                            Thank you. If you cant make a free/paid version then maybe you are trying to get rich off the wrong product.

                            Joe Blow wm is not going to piss $20 a month away when he can have 10 icons in his taskbar.

                            It is more fun anyhow. What, ND (for example) is one click stats from an icon. And I know what all the stats nuances are. I know who is doing what. I dont need bells and whistles.

                            So stats progs are nice and I might still use one but bad biz to throw your money away unless you got a LOT of good progs... maybe.

                            Id still prioritize and just click an icon once in a while.
                            Last edited by Vjo; 08-11-2011, 03:15 PM.

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                            • Vjo
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 6082

                              #29
                              I can open 10 sponsors with icons and know stats faster than NS.

                              Way faster.

                              Plus you have to go in manually all the time anyhow to your sponsors to really see what's happening.
                              Last edited by Vjo; 08-11-2011, 03:24 PM.

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                              • AdultKing
                                Raise Your Weapon
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 15601

                                #30
                                I use Stats Remote because we use Macs however I fail to see the problem with paying much less than 1% of our income for a service which saves heaps of time. I don't want to spend time checking individual programs, I want to spend time making money.

                                These stats programs need constant updates to keep them working for the wide array of programs out there, that's why they run a subscription model.

                                If you're going to bitch over $20 - $30 per month for a massive time saving then maybe you need to find another occupation that pays better
                                Last edited by AdultKing; 08-11-2011, 03:25 PM.

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