would be funny if the EDL / BNP started a counter protest and tried to take England back

fireworks

Its not mainly to do with races, but rather classes. Chuck into that mix, school holidays (youths are on the streets) and mob mentality and you have a defcon 1 shit bomb. People are angry at the state of the economy, its been building for a while and any reason to lash out is going to spark them off.

There is no left wing party any more. Sadly.

I think it is the muslims fault! we should send them all back to Afghanistan :helpme

O'K ill leave you alone. just remember those imimgrants you talked about come from countries not too far from you, no doubt, dogs are treated better.
what makes you so special?

Mus·lim
n.
1. also Mos·lem = A believer in or adherent of Islam.

Number of Muslims worldwide = 1,600,000,000

Therefore, your statement is incorrect purely for its ignorance. Muslim is not a race :winkwink:

In the 80's riots they said it was police racism, but that's not the case now, and the cuts haven't even started to bite yet, so it's not that either. As far as the dole, if they wanted a job, there's plenty of work out there, and no ones dole has been cut anyway. It's just opportunist looting and mindless rioting. Just as football hooliganism was seen as fun, so is this.

where did I state it was a race ? you are the ignorant one !

I merely stated it might be a good idea to send them all back to Afghanistan ! because we all know that is where most muslims come from

Looking on the bright side though...

At least now I CAN afford to go shopping :)

You implied "we" should send "them" all back. Send who all back if many British born people are Muslim?? Send them all back to where they were never from?? As I mentioned, Muslim is not a race, rather a choice so "they" belong everywhere they are.

And no, not all of us know that Afghanistan is where most Muslims come from, some of us know that only around 2% of the worlds Muslim population come from there.

Is that like send the jews to work camps in the east ? Is that your idea?

why are people taking my comments about muslims seriously ? wtf is wrong with you people!

muslims have nothing to do with these RIOTS .. my comment was supposed to be a jibe at the people blaming muslims for everything !! get off my case ! lol

you have to use the irony font

Didn't take long before the good old racism card was pulled :) Sadly for the left wing of Europe it fucking aint work no more

Didn't they start (the Riots) because some Father of 4 was wrongfully Killed by Police?



Americans just love to blame Muslims.
For them, they are all bad, i stopped arguing, it's pointless.

Neither. The overriding trait of brits is authoritarian. It's one reason why all the leftie brits here moan there's no party for them and all the righties moan their party is a bit shit too.

EVERYTHING in the UK requires a license, is illegal, about to be illegal or is generally just too pointy for any brit to be trusted with. Nanny always knows best, whether is a Labour nanny or a Tory nanny.

The main strategy of the UK is to ban everything or half arse any job or task while going LALALALALA and hoping for the best. It rarely works and is why we have aircraft carriers but no planey type things to go on the top of them.

One of the reasons the riots have got so out of control and so much property damaged is because no one other than the police have the gear or the support in law to actually protect their own stuff. There will be no armed to the teeth Koreans protecting their store fronts, and no looters will get shot. Last night a couple of looters got stuck behind a roller shutter that dropped behind them trapping them in the gap between the glass and the metal. The plod rescued them. Meanwhile, in side streets 90 year olds had their front doors kicked in, and no plod responded.

Ultimately who gives a fuck why rioters riot. As long as I know I can defend my family and property from whatever comes through my front door then I really don't care. That's one for social workers and good luck with that. The problem is I can't. The riots were sparked by a north London bad lad getting shot by the plod. His specific crime was to have a handgun - just having one got him shot and killed. All handguns were banned a few years ago in the UK for the law abiding, and in any event, the most recent case where a remote rural farmer shot and killed an intruder in his farmhouse resulted in his jailing for our equivalent of murder one.

So bad people have guns, good people don't and couldn't use them even if they did. And as we can see, it's only taken three days of DDOS rioting from the flatscreen liberation front for the police to be overwhelmed. And lets be honest here, they totally are.

Trouble has flashed all over the UK and in every case I've seen they've withdrawn or done nothing. Once the police line had failed there was in general nothing to stop rioters doing what they wanted. Except in Kingsland Road the Turkish community got all their blokes on the street and got things under control, no riot, no fire, no looting. Meanwhile the average brits response was to tweet about bringing a broom to todays cleanup. Nothing shows a looter who's boss like a thorough spring clean the morning after. How fucking gay is that?

Everyone is asking today which state run service has failed them. And there's the brit mindset right there - it's YOUR job to look after me. But the real question is why aren't we allowed to take our own precautions? Actual precautions, ones that might stop five people in your hallway, when everything else has failed.

Just for the record, I don't own a gun and don't have a baseball bat under my bed, but then I don't live in a shitty area. I'd just like the option to do so if I chose.

It's convenient how they now have an excuse to bring the army on the streets during the collapse of the Dollar.

Most likely the secret services have been organising the riots so as we believe that the army is here to protect us, not to control us

:2 cents:

I spent a good part of my life studying criminal behavior. If you study Mob rule for long enough you do see that races riot in different ways.
The Asians for example are almost unique in the fact that in northern cities they set fires so they could have one sided battles with fire fighters but scatter when there is any involvement from the police.
Blacks as a rule are far more likely to loot and and set fires to their own neighborhoods.
Whites are more likely to have running battles with the police or rival gangs and vandalism.

It all boils down to boredom and the potent influence of the "mob"

That is simplifying things but there is science at work when it comes to how different races riot.

If im racist by saying that I would rather have whites rioting outside my house than blacks then thats for you to decide. The fact is, I would rather have a brick through my window than petrol poured through my letter box.

As for the EDL. This rag tag bunch of racist thugs will never represent me. They are the lowest of the low. No science with these morons, just hate and no brain cells.

Its pure comedy that in this day and age and after seeing this crap happen so often that people would still believe that people are "rioting" with purpose. looting stores. stealing property, burning buildings all "for a reason"

Wake the fuck up.

The reason is simply safety in numbers and opportunity - it all boils down to the fundamental principles of crowd psychology. They aren't stealing from stores to protest anything. They are doing it because they are young, immature assholes who feel safe in a crowd and just like you see the true personality of a person once they get drunk, you are seeing the true personalities of these people once they feel they can get away with anything. A bunch of ghetto ass idiots with no respect for anything.

Yet... :disgust

They are protesting Obamacare.

They were sparked off by the Police killing someone they said had a gun.

We don't know if it was a gun, a replica or if it was in a sock somewhere in his car. We do know that the police have lied about him shooting at them. We also know that the police lie on a regular basis. knowing that the tabloid press will print the lie BIG and bury the correction weeks later on page 6. So instant press release call him a drug dealer and say that he shot at them first.

The problem with our poor farmer was he shot them in the back trying to leave. You have the right to defend yourself but not to execute people, only the US president is allowed to shoot unarmed criminals in cold blood.

Something stop 5 people in your hallway?

either a gun with 6 bullets or a society at peace with it self where everyone gets a fair chance, employment, education housing etc.

It's not a simple race or ethnic situation.

It started with poor, then quickly became age/background.

It's a mix of black, white, poor and not so poor. The common factor is age. Youngest arrested so far 11 years old, doesn't look like many of the looters are over 25.

They're using this as an opportunity to get high on violence and destruction and to steal things. Gangs on motor bikes road to a Sony warehouse, robbed what they could carry and set fire to the building.

So far the police response has been very weak. Not arriving early enough or at all. Fire crews unable to get to fires and the police can't protect them.

They're upping the numbers of police for 6,000 to 16,000. Which makes me wonder. What if the kids don't come out tonight and just wait for the numbers to go back to normal?

The real problem is where will it spring up tonight. Last night it was not only London, also Bristol, Birmingham and Liverpool. So what if tonight it's Manchester, Luton and Sheffield????

They need to take a very firm hand, rubber bullets are available and water cannon should be brought in, I believe they still have them in N. Ireland. Unless they were got rid of them.

Then solve the long term problems of kids with a lack of discipline.

So a situation which starts off with a death at the hands of the police can be solved by causing more deaths using rubber bullets.

Yes, what a shinning success story was N Ireland, civil rights to 25 years of civil war.


It is the politicians that need the discipline

" you represent everyone, everyone should have a good life in this country, not just the wealthy "

Repeat

yeah yeah yeah... and the Vancouver BC riots just started with a totally tragic loss of the Canucks in a hockey game. Always a sad and tragic story that leads to people looting stores and destroying their own neighborhoods like fucking morons.

Kids stealing, breaking and burning shit has NOTHING to do with anything other than the opportunity to break, steal and burn shit.

Just because you have deep rooted issues with authority, does not mean they are right in what they are doing or that they don't need to be dealt with severely.

:2 cents:

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You really have to wonder what the left wing socialists in this thread are doing in this business to begin with..

i feel pretty safe in CZ, czech people are far too racist to let it get that far - it's simply not comfortable to live here for people who try to leech off the system (only for gypsies who breed like rabitts but at least speak czech).

but good luck to someone from africa or whatever who comes here and tries to deal with authorities...

sorry, i won`t do that again

When you see the retarded posts here, you think there must be hope for the marginalised in our society.

If they don't clamp down hard, a family could be burned alive. A 60 year old man is already in hospital in a severe condition another youth was mugged.

My answer would be water cannon, but how many of them will be needed to cover all the areas. If the yobs don't want to get hit by a plastic bullet they have an easy choice. STAY AT HOME.

Do you have a better solution?

Massive 3rd world immigration into countries like England and the USA was for a very specific purpose. The host populations were hypnotized/distracted with consumerism, sports, TV and movies while millions of immigrants were carted in. Now that the average braindead turd is seeing the destruction to their societies it is far too late. The media is beginning to turn and instead of ignoring the problems they are beginning to fan the flames of hatred (see the Drudge report for a good example). You see if the host population and the immigrants begin to fight then they use up all their time, energy, and resources fighting each other instead of working together to do something about the people who actually led them to this state of affairs. Classic divide and conquer. So for all the nitwit survivalists out there who think they are going to fight and take their countries back when all hell breaks loose I have news for you: You will be fighting each other for scraps of food and won't have any time to do much else. You will see more and more instances of ethnic strife in the news and the media will make sure you become a racist even if you never had a racist thought in your life. This is key for your masters to carry out their ultimate plans. The only thing you can do at this point is to relocate to a country that you don't think will turn into a hell hole.

In the USA food will be used as the ultimate weapon to get the crusty old liberty lovers to submit. Can you imagine the average bloated turd American holding out more than 2 weeks without having a cheeseburger and a cold can of high fructose corn syrup? The current population is a glaringly painful divergence from the character of the population back in the last Great Depression. Modern man is emasculated, fat, lazy, dumb, and without any honor. The omision of any sign of respect to the fallen Seal Team 6 at the Blue Angels show I took my family to this last weekend shows that even flag waving Fox News drones are devoid of even an ounce of honor anymore. There is zero chance at this point at turning the tide. It's over.

Water cannon is for crowd control not small groups of thieves.

Better solution? Bullets.

You can't equip every police force in the land with a couple to dozens of water cannons, you can however issue them with guns to use to shoot rubber bullets.

Last night we had our first deaths from the rioters. It seems it was people who were trying to protect their properties run down by thugs. Maybe it's time to call in tougher actions on rioters and looters.

well we are far more experienced here in Greece.Both the police and riots. Hope everything is finished now

Sangat TV on Sky channel was outstanding last night, by far the best coverage - better than the main Sky News.

It's basically an access channel run by sihks in Birmingham and they had a reporter, well more like an urban DJ guy in a car cruising around talking to whoever - even gave a cop a lift at one point.

The key things that emerged was the riots are not in any way down to Muslims, Sikhs or Hindus as they were all very organised in doing their best to protect the're temples and businesses. And not just their own, sihks were standing guard with the hindus in places.

Whoever was to blame its not these guys, and its incredibly sad that it now appear three asian guys have been run down and killed in Birmingham over night.

HOWEVER, it's also rather sad that in parts of south London some white communities have done the same - stood together to physically protect their neighbourhoods in exactly the same way and the general media reaction has been the usually snidey rascist stuff. Why so? Isn't it all just the same? People doing the right thing.

The kids doing all the shit will have certain things in common.

Long term clients of the state - care homes, benefits
Long records for other crime, all of it excused and barely punished
Broken homes.

Listening to the Middle Class Twats with their solutions gives you a clue at why this is happening. Here are some of the comments made by the really clueless. Like the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, Home Secretary and most of the opposition. Even Members of Parliament for the areas where the trouble is.

Parents have to know where their children are. :upsidedow Yes they do know, they sent them to the Sony shop to pick up a TV.

Parents have to keep their children indoors at night. :upsidedow Which means the kids can't stock the larder.

These children have to realise they are harming their future. :upsidedow These kids are often in families where their parents are on benefits, working in a dead end job and don't think they have a future to lose.

Water cannon aren't the way we police in Mainland Britain. :upsidedow Fine to use it in N. Ireland. Or just allow kids to run riot.

Those caught have to know if they're old enough to do this, they're old enough to face the consequences in court. :upsidedow This gem was brought to us by the Prime Minister who obviously is clueless about the law. Even those who are old enough to be charged and convicted will get very little punishment. We're yet to see anyone brought to trial, but with jails full and them letting out criminals on the street what can be done?

This is mindless thuggery. :upsidedow No it's opportunism. They see a chance to go wild, have a good night out rioting and pick up some new trainers, clothes, electrical goods, food, alcohol or plain cash out of the tills.

And these idiots run the country. :Oh crap

The immediate solution is to hit the rioters hard to make them respect the police and rule of law. Water cannon, rubber bullets and if required the army. The time for looking like the situation is under control is past. No one is convinced it's under control. Unless the rioters are made to stop, they will decide when to stop. And no guaranty they won't start up again.

Then find them work to do. If so many 18-24 year olds are unemployed, get them sweeping the streets, mowing the lawns in parks, removing graffiti, looking after old people, running errands for the old and disabled. There are lots of jobs they can do in their communities. If they don't or fuck up they lose benefits. This could be expanded to include out of work parents.

I have a daughter who hasn't worked for over 10 years and my first wife hasn't worked since we separated. Except a few jobs in the black economy. Both able to work, choose not to and live on what the State provides. Or I provided until my daughter was 18. Even then my first wife tried to get me to support her. Until the Social Services told her, I no longer had to. :thumbsup

They are 2 of 100,000s.

I'm sure many of the unemployed would welcome something to do, it's just hat private industry doesn't need them and the Public purse can't afford to keep them in a job. so keep them on benefits which is cheaper. This has been the policy for 30 years and now we see the outcome.

Americans take heed. This is the cost of cutting off 5% of your population. And in the US the access to guns is far easier. Imagine these rioters with guns.

If you guys don't like immigrants on your streets, you shouldn't have bombed them and you shouldn't have enfoced economic embargos! Because they are clearly not in UK for the weather. Expect a wave of immigrants from Libya soon.

A massive shift in wealth from the richest 1% of the population to the bottom 20%

An investment bank to invest in innovation and manufacturing taken from money in the financial sector. Creating well paid jobs and training for youth.

All children on free school meals to be sent to private schools at the states expense

All children in private school to be sent to state schools in Tottenham Brixton etc... (That should get some motivated parents involved in school life)

Still can't tell if you're trolling or thick as shit :(

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"#EDL are excited at the opportunities to go 'Nig Bashing' that the #LondonRiots have brought.."

It should be interesting... the EDL will probably bring their baseball bats.. the young black gangs will bring their guns.... all hell could break loose! :warning

lol yes, so that is why they cover their faces like they are criminals. you're a known commie, so of course you would push this.

Bring in the army, live ammo ... shoot the looters on sight.

I know you guys dont have the balls to do that but i wish you would.

I believe this what they are doing in Libya and Syria.

If you did that you would have civil war and violence like N Ireland for the next 30 years.

It is the same here in Latvia. They make things so difficult for immigrants (as I know all too well) that it is almost impossible for 3rd world immigrants to gain a foothold here. If you do not have family connections with some bureaucrats in Latvia you are totally fucked.

In Libya and Syria the people are protesting against a corrupt and awful government that clings onto power no matter what. The comparison is idiotic. England is a democratic country, and the situation at the moment is just a case where criminals are running rife because they can ... i think a few placed bullets would do the world of good!

Apparently unless you are an unreformed Marxist/Maoist waiting to be liberated by your Chinese brothers like Cherry7 you are a "racist maniac". Just another case of the left twisting words and logic until they mean absolutely nothing. :error

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A serving UK policemans blog.

I'm American and I don't blame Muslims for anything. I'm also well traveled and lived in Australia for 5 years without stepping foot back into America.

Why do you lump all Americans together as being the same? We are all unique and different, just like everyone else.

sounds just like New Orleans, but nobody is burning it down here. :1orglaugh

yeah but they were not minorities so its ok :winkwink: