Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011

**alias** · 07-30-2011, 07:38 AM

Pretty lame.

**MediaGuy** · 07-30-2011, 07:45 AM

Just evil.

At least it was better for Business when Ashcroft, Meese and Jerry Falwell were whipping up moralistic fervor against us.

Hypocrites.

Can't wait to see the next one caught with kiddie pics on his PC.

:D

**blackmonsters** · 07-30-2011, 07:45 AM

I think they are saving the information anyway.
Now the government wants to be able to easily get it from the ISP.

**Redrob** · 07-30-2011, 07:45 AM

They always pass this kind of shit when there is a crisis to divert public attention away from what they are trying to really accomplish.

Rep Lamar Smith is one of the worst in my opinion. If he is around, you better watch your Constitution, or some of it will turn up missing in my opinion.

**scubadiver626** · 07-30-2011, 07:46 AM

How does track clicking and data banks protect children.

Edit, models not consumers, NM.

**rowan** · 07-30-2011, 08:01 AM

Pity they couldn't let a couple more through in the meantime, so this one could be H. R. 1984.

I believe Australia is currently looking into something like this.

**Joshua G** · 07-30-2011, 09:21 AM

farty fart fart.

**split_joel** · 07-30-2011, 11:49 AM

lmao this will never pass on the floor

**dyna mo** · 07-30-2011, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

I think they are saving the information anyway.
Now the government wants to be able to easily get it from the ISP.

i'm with you, why wouldn't they save it is my thinking..... i can only imagine all the shit google saves up.

**Vendzilla** · 07-30-2011, 11:53 AM

They banned fruit flavored rolling papers to protect the children, they pass all sorts of bills to protect the children, as a single parent, I protected my child, not the government.

**stinkyfingers** · 07-30-2011, 01:13 PM

its patriotic to sacrifice your personal privacy to stay protected against "The Terrorists" ...

**split_joel** · 07-30-2011, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by Vendzilla

They banned fruit flavored rolling papers to protect the children, they pass all sorts of bills to protect the children, as a single parent, I protected my child, not the government.

Rolling papers is one thing. Invading everyones freedom.is another. Unless another attack happens this wont fly.
Just like the only reason the patriot act was signed is because of ppls fear which they happily give up there freedom.

**Vendzilla** · 07-30-2011, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by split_joel

Rolling papers is one thing. Invading everyones freedom.is another. Unless another attack happens this wont fly.
Just like the only reason the patriot act was signed is because of ppls fear which they happily give up there freedom.

Most people I talk to fear the power the government has given itself

**Rochard** · 07-30-2011, 01:59 PM

All of this shit is tracked and logged anyhow so what's the point?

**Coup** · 07-30-2011, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by split_joel

Rolling papers is one thing. Invading everyones freedom.is another.

How you can consider these two things mutually exclusive is beyond me. lol

**icymelon** · 07-30-2011, 06:47 PM

I dont get it I thought the republicans wanted smaller government

**spunky99** · 07-30-2011, 08:04 PM

**uno** · 07-30-2011, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

I think they are saving the information anyway.
Now the government wants to be able to easily get it from the ISP.

Yeah, I'm almost positive they've been doing this for well over a decade(pre-9/11!) anyway. I have almost 0 doubt that aol still has logs of aim conversations i had when i was 15.

**Agent 488** · 07-30-2011, 09:11 PM

thought most isp's dumped their data after a few days or weeks because of storage costs? that's what i read anyway. most wont store beyond that unless there is a court order.

**DamianJ** · 07-31-2011, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Rochard

All of this shit is tracked and logged anyhow so what's the point?

I know you are a tinfoil hat oddball sometimes, but you *really* think every ISP is tracking and logging every click you make?

Why do you think they are doing that?

Who do you think they do it for?

**Paul Markham** · 07-31-2011, 02:53 AM

It's a problem for the law enforcement agencies.

A site goes up which is illegal, CP, terrorists, etc. They want to know who is looking at that site. so how can they do that?

Maybe a better way would be to just track sites using spiders to find offending sites. Or what ever and just take down the domain if it contradicts the US laws.

As usual I see no one here looking at the problem from the other side.

Child pornography content represents a child being abused. Making it harder to access is making it less profitable. Won't stamp it out. but will reduce it.

What do we propose to help make that possible?

**Emil** · 07-31-2011, 03:07 AM

Vpn, vpn, vpn!

**Captain Kawaii** · 07-31-2011, 03:21 AM

If Big Biz wants us tracked, its a done deal..

**Barry-xlovecam** · 07-31-2011, 04:50 AM

It's too broad of a reach to be constitutional.
4th Amendment (search and seizure).

Police agencies could get a warrant to log the IPs visiting a specific illegal site that they know of.

**DamianJ** · 07-31-2011, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

What do we propose

http://www.iwf.org.uk/

http://www.asacp.org

**Paul Markham** · 07-31-2011, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

Police agencies could get a warrant to log the IPs visiting a specific illegal site that they know of.

That's an excellent solution. Too be honest I didn't know it was US law. I was under the impression that users of certain sites weren't tracked.

It would be nicer if users could be logged on sites by private organisations, via a court order, like people being pirated, organisations like ascap, etc. Would be a very good move forward.

However if a site is proved to be illegal, why leave it open?

A bricks and mortar business selling illegal drugs, pirated goods, etc. Would be raided and have the offending goods taken away. Then closed. Why is online different?

**JohnRingo** · 07-31-2011, 05:44 AM

google's been doing it for years... and if you think the government gives a fuck about what the world like's to jerk off to.... GFY

**Best-In-BC** · 07-31-2011, 06:40 AM

Your a idiot for think any new regulations on top of what we got is a good thing

Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011

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