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Old 10-11-2011, 09:06 PM   #1
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Why does the media continue to legitimatize the Tea Party's Herman "My Pet Negro" Cain?

The guy has zero chance. The media is giving him a fair shake when in reality he doesn't have a chance against Mitt and even less of a chance against Obama.

Herman Cain is the Tea Party pawn. An opportunity to spin themselves as non-racists.

Chris Christie is the only one who is going to win in all of this. He came out and supported Romney and his magic underwear early. He appears as a team player but doesn't have to use any political capital later when Romney is floundering in the polls and looks like the loser he is. Obama wins 2012 and Christie comes in and beats Biden handily in the 2016 election.

Rick Perry was a threat for all 5 minutes until everyone remembered how nuts he is. Obama will make Romney look like a bore much in the same way Bush 2 made Gore and Kerry look.

If the media has to prop up and lie about Herman Cain to make things interesting....Republicans are in deep shit. Obama has the 2012 election sewn up.
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Jeb Bush for president!

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That's a scary thought! One that will probably come closer to reality in 2016.
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You don't like Cain's 9 9 9 tax reform idea?

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Of course the owned agenda mainstream media totes him lol!
Herman Cain ("There's No Reason To Audit The Federal Reserve" ) is an install from our owners, he was head of the fed reserve in Kansas city... to name just one of his loyalties to the elite.

Herman CAIN Another horrific puppet.

Cain was pop up installed as soon as puppet Perry was exposed for the degenerate maggot that he is.


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You don't like Cain's 9 9 9 tax reform idea?

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Turn that 9 9 9 upside down and you get 6 6 6

Cain is part of the problem...
Remember to invert everything they say!
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About 90% of all voters in 2008 who identify themselves as "black" voted for Obama; many acknowledging the main reason being his skin color.

People who control the money tend to prefer Republicans, and with the current Republican candidates looking so weak, it makes sense they'd suddenly vault a lesser known "black" candidate Herman Cain into the party nomination mix as a hedge in case the other Republican nominees don't pan out.

The "black" vote, while less significant these days, is still sizable ... as of now, Obama, assuming he runs again, will likely garner much of that vote - of the current crop of potential GOP nominees, only Cain has a shot of significantly cutting into Obama's "black" vote margin.

In short, Herman Cain is a smart hedge by the GOP; the power-elite who ultimately influences who gets to run for President ... as Ross Perot found out the hard way - read up on how his campaign was derailed when it appeared he could potentially win over the "selected" major party candidates.

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About 90% of all voters in 2008 who identify themselves as "black" voted for Obama; many acknowledging the main reason being his skin color.

People who control the money tend to prefer Republicans, and with the current Republican candidates looking so weak, it makes sense they'd suddenly vault a lesser known "black" candidate Herman Cain into the party nomination mix as a hedge in case the other Republican nominees don't pan out.

The "black" vote, while less significant these days, is still sizable ... as of now, Obama, assuming he runs again, will likely garner much of that vote - of the current crop of potential GOP nominees, only Cain has a shot of significantly cutting into Obama's "black" vote margin.

In short, Herman Cain is a smart hedge by the GOP; the power-elite who ultimately influences who gets to run for President ... as Ross Perot found out the hard way - read up on how his campaign was derailed when it appeared he could potentially win over the "selected" major party candidates.

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I loved Ross's debates, he made the others look like fools. Just think how different things would have been if had won?
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About 90% of all voters in 2008 who identify themselves as "black" voted for Obama; many acknowledging the main reason being his skin color.

People who control the money tend to prefer Republicans, and with the current Republican candidates looking so weak, it makes sense they'd suddenly vault a lesser known "black" candidate Herman Cain into the party nomination mix as a hedge in case the other Republican nominees don't pan out.

The "black" vote, while less significant these days, is still sizable ... as of now, Obama, assuming he runs again, will likely garner much of that vote - of the current crop of potential GOP nominees, only Cain has a shot of significantly cutting into Obama's "black" vote margin.

In short, Herman Cain is a smart hedge by the GOP; the power-elite who ultimately influences who gets to run for President ... as Ross Perot found out the hard way - read up on how his campaign was derailed when it appeared he could potentially win over the "selected" major party candidates.

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the "many" (as you put it) black people who voted for Obama based on his skin color aren't going to vote for Cain. maybe they would have before he started with his recent tirades of against black democrats, coupled with the underhanded jabs about 'slavery' and 'plantations.' the others who voted for obama for other reasons are either too smart to not see through this clown, or too dedicated to the democratic party to vote republican

of the 10% of black people that didn't vote for obama, i'd guess that some of them may fall into the descriptions above, or they will vote for cain because they hate obama and/or are much like herman cain themselves

= cain has no shot at making any noticeable dent in the black vote

he's merely a handpuppet of the the republicans and sideshow act to keep the press entertained with all of his anti-black rants, cause the GOP can't (won't) say the things he can get away with saying.

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i couldnt even tell you the name of the president/mayor/dictator here and really dont care
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So if your black and think or vote or think anything other than from a democrat viewpoint your a uncle tom?

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So if your black and think or vote or think anything other than from a democrat viewpoint your a uncle tom?

Allen West, Herman Cain, Colin Powell
and according to Cain, if you're black & only vote democrat, you're a slave on the "plantation" that is the democratic party

knock it off

black people in general are VERY conservative.... even here in california when we "all" voted for obama, "we" also voted down the gay marriage proposition. so clearly black people know how to think differently than the party

the fact of the matter is, repubs pretty much haven't sided with anything of interest to the black community since the abolishment of slavery. that is why we're so die hard for democrats
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and according to Cain, if you're black & only vote democrat, you're a slave on the "plantation" that is the democratic party

knock it off

black people in general are VERY conservative.... even here in california when we "all" voted for obama, "we" also voted down the gay marriage proposition. so clearly black people know how to think differently than the party

the fact of the matter is, repubs pretty much haven't sided with anything of interest to the black community since the abolishment of slavery. that is why we're so die hard for democrats
So what is your gut feeling about the percentage of blacks he could pull away?
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and according to Cain, if you're black & only vote democrat, you're a slave on the "plantation" that is the democratic party

knock it off

black people in general are VERY conservative.... even here in california when we "all" voted for obama, "we" also voted down the gay marriage proposition. so clearly black people know how to think differently than the party

the fact of the matter is, repubs pretty much haven't sided with anything of interest to the black community since the abolishment of slavery. that is why we're so die hard for democrats
You must be pretty young.... You obviously don't remember the "dixiecrats" of the 1950's, 60's. and 70's

And if you think that the democrats are doing things in the interests of the black community, like making them now generationally dependent on government, as opposed to self-empowered, and constantly drumming into the community's heads that they are "victims" and can't advance without a big helping hand from the government, then you and I differ on what is in their interests, I guess. I have several black friends that totally agree with what Herman Cain said about what the democrats have done to the black community, and these are people that came up from some of the poorest areas. They think that the dems have done this so as to make the community forever reliant on government, and forever voting for the people who will give them what they will forever need.


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So what is your gut feeling about the percentage of blacks he could pull away?
5%?

woulda been more like 10% until he shitted on harry belafonte and cornel west
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I did the same thing in '04 against Bush... didn't work
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Yeah, Herman Cain won the Florida straw poll, crushing Mitt Romney and Rick Perry. And OK, a CBS poll recently found him tied with Romney among likely Republican primary voters. Sure, he also scored a resounding victory in another straw poll this weekend. And Rasmussen just today released the finding that 56% of GOP voters like Cain's 9-9-9 plan. But he isn't a legitimate candidate???

As for the media coverage, On MSNBC's Daily Rundown on Oct 10th, AP's political editor, Liz Sidoti, sniffed "we still consider him a second-tier candidate."




Sidoti--along with her fellow panelists--suggested Cain merits no more than second-tier status because he doesn't have the money, organization or travel plans worthy of a true contender. Watch this liberal coven of representatives of MSNBC, AP, Washington Post and NPR write off another Republican.

CHUCK TODD, Daily Rundown host: Herman Cain. Liz Sidoti: have you changed the way the Associated Press is covering Herman Cain? Do you, do you increase the amount of events, even at the book signings, that you make sure you have an Associated Press reporter at?

LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press: When Herman Cain makes news, we put it on the wire. When he doesn't we don't put it on the wire.

TODD: Is it different from how you might cover a second-tier or a third-tier candidate at this point?

SIDOTI: No. We still consider him a second-tier candidate.

TODD: When do you say, OK, first-tier?

SIDOTI: Well, you know, I think this is very difficult. This is something that we wrestle with at the AP often, which is when is a candidate in the first tier? And I think you have to look at many different things, including a candidate's travel schedule, where they're spending their time, and not just the polls. You have to look at money the candidate has, look at the kind of organization that the candidate puts in place, among many other different factors. So, you know, we had reporters at Herman Cain's book-signing last week.


So despite polls, the Associated Press has decided that they will tell us who is a 1st teir candidate, and who is not. Obviously this also goes for Ron Paul, since the establishment of BOTH sides don't want HIM to win....






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Why does the media continue to legitimatize the Socialist Party's Barack "My Pet Negro" Obama?
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You must be pretty young.... You obviously don't remember the "dixiecrats" of the 1950's, 60's. and 70's

And if you think that the democrats are doing things in the interests of the black community, like making them now generationally dependent on government, as opposed to self-empowered, and constantly drumming into the community's heads that they are "victims" and can't advance without a big helping hand from the government, then you and I differ on what is in their interests, I guess. I have several black friends that totally agree with what Herman Cain said about what the democrats have done to the black community, and these are people that came up from some of the poorest areas. They think that the dems have done this so as to make the community forever reliant on government, and forever voting for the people who will give them what they will forever need.


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yeah i'm too young to remember the dixiecrats but i know of them being a history nerd (and from long talks with my grandfather). they were more or less a product of the "side switching" that occurred between slavery and civil rights. those folks are what we now call republicans

and believe me, i hear you in terms of blacks needing to be self-empowered and i actually agree with Cain on that one aspect. but i don't believe that it's the fault of the democratic party itself. it's the result of the two sides constantly struggling. like it or not, believe it or not..... black people came into this country at a disadvantage from the jump. and when one thing is set in place to offset that disadvantage, another hurdle is put into place. they had to free us, but they didn't have to school us. then they had to school us, but they didn't have to hire us. then they had to hire us, but they didn't have to advance us.

so one side continues to try to stack the deck in favor of of the "oppressed", and the other side continues to try and keep the oppressed away from their stuff. so the combination of lack of opportunity AND complacency with assistance (laziness?) festers into the dependency that we see today.

it's honestly not the fault of the political parties as much as it is the fault of the mentality in this country. fondly known as "the man trying to keep a brotha down"

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Why does the media continue to legitimatize the Socialist Party's Barack "My Pet Negro" Obama?

You can't say that about Obama! That's racist! You can only say things like that about conservatives.... Like these people...

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Actually, it's more like the mainstream media are doing their best to push Romney, no matter what the polls say. Listen to how this is worded:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ney/50713406/1

"GOP values voters say they'd back Romney, if they had to
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WASHINGTON ? With the field of conservative presidential candidates now known, attendees at the Values Voter Summit here say they have begun to accept that the race for the Republican presidential nomination will come down to former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and someone else.

Should Romney prevail, most said they would support him whether they like it or not, but they are not yet willing to give up hope that someone else will prevail.

It may take some time for them to get enthusiastic about Romney, if they ever do.

That showed in the straw poll conducted Saturday, which Rep. Ron Paul of Texas won handily with 732 votes, followed by businessman Herman Cain with 447.

Romney finished with 88 votes out of 1,983 cast. Only former House speaker Newt Gingrich and former Utah governor Jon Huntsman fared worse with 54 and two votes, respectively."


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So somehow, Romney coming almost LAST, with Paul and Cain in the lead.... Means that GOP voters support ROMNEY?????


It seems to me like the media is DESPERATELY trying to push Romney here, no matter what poll after poll says.

INSANE! Why the hell is Romney considered a 1st tier candidate by the media? Because he is part of the establishment, the power elite, and the status quo.



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Why do Americans keep tagging Obama as a socialist? and why do you keep equating socialism with evil... wtf, has your god-sent capitalism been so effective?!?

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Why does the media continue to legitimatize the Tea Party's Herman "My Pet Negro" Cain?
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Seems like a very racist comment..
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Very odd. Is it true that Herman Cain was a Federal Reserve Chairman and is against auditing the Fed? Is it true that Herman Cain voted FOR the bailouts? That doesn't sound Tea Party'ish to me.
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yeah i'm too young to remember the dixiecrats but i know of them being a history nerd (and from long talks with my grandfather). they were more or less a product of the "side switching" that occurred between slavery and civil rights. those folks are what we now call republicans

and believe me, i hear you in terms of blacks needing to be self-empowered and i actually agree with Cain on that one aspect. but i don't believe that it's the fault of the democratic party itself. it's the result of the two sides constantly struggling. like it or not, believe it or not..... black people came into this country at a disadvantage from the jump. and when one thing is set in place to offset that disadvantage, another hurdle is put into place. they had to free us, but they didn't have to school us. then they had to school us, but they didn't have to hire us. then they had to hire us, but they didn't have to advance us.

so one side continues to try to stack the deck in favor of of the "oppressed", and the other side continues to try and keep the oppressed away from their stuff. so the combination of lack of opportunity AND complacency with assistance (laziness?) festers into the dependency that we see today.

it's honestly not the fault of the political parties as much as it is the fault of the mentality in this country. fondly known as "the man trying to keep a brotha down"

You should probably run as an independent, then we'd have black candidates in all three parties
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:40 PM   #35
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An eagle on a par 3? Now that would be quite a feat.
Yeah a hole in one.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:07 PM   #36
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Republicans are in deep shit. Obama has the 2012 election sewn up.
Really? You're basing that prediction/opinion on his stunning record of economic achievement, I guess? His uncanny ability to deflect and divorce himself from deepening scandals like "Fast and Furious" and Solyndra (just the tip-of-the-iceberg green energy fiasco)... and an unemployment statistic that will be closer to 10% than it is now?... a GDP growth stat that will be less than 2%? Let's put it this way, by the time January/February 2012 roll around there will be enough democrats thinking that a Hillary Clinton vs. Mitt Romney contest gives them a better chance of retaining the presidency... he just may be persuaded/asked/forced to deliver the kind of speech that made LBJ's second term a non-event.
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Hillary Clinton vs. Mitt Romney contest gives them a better chance of retaining the presidency... he just may be persuaded/asked/forced to deliver the kind of speech that made LBJ's second term a non-event.
That alone tells me that you have no clue what you're talking about. This has even less of a chance to happen than Romney getting elected. The guy wears magic underwear, he doesn't believe that mary the virgin was an actual virgin - the evangelical's aren't going to come out for that. the rest of America's going to be bored with him.

And Johnson backed down due to health issues. But you can rewrite history if you'd like.

Listen. I am from Massachusetts. We know Mitt Romney well. The guy doesn't have a chance.
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Apart from Cain's 9-9-9 being a regressive tax ...
Unless the "sales tax" proposed would be levied on;
  • Capital gains sales
  • Stocks, bonds and other investment instruments
  • Real estate conveyances above median homestead values
The 9-9-9 plan would shift the burden of taxation to the working poor
Also, I have read of no exemptions of taxation on food, medicine and lower to median value rents ...
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Similar to VAT
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-1...line-beer.html

Also, Viard said Cain’s description of the business tax has been misleading as it is nothing like the current corporate income tax, which applies only to profits of companies organized as corporations. The 9-9-9 regime would operate as a value-added tax, or VAT, similar to those in the rest of the industrialized world, which Republicans have often opposed.

A value-added tax is applied at every level of production on most goods and services.

“The elephant in the room is the fact that Cain is proposing a value-added tax,” said Viard, a former economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas who says a VAT will be necessary to cover the government’s long-term fiscal needs. “The question of whether the revenue numbers add up is almost secondary to that.”
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You don't like Cain's 9 9 9 tax reform idea?

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One is bullshit. Second Cain is running for President. The President doesn't re-write tax code Congress does. Even a 2/3 majority republican Congress wouldn't support his 9-9-9 plan. This is why Presidential candidates shouldn't say they are going to do this to that because in reality they don't do shit unless Congress says yes to their ideas. And in the Senate that means you need at least 60 members of your party controlling things. Which means pretty much nothing really getting done no matter who is in charge. If Cain wants to change tax code he should be running for Congress not President.
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5%?

woulda been more like 10% until he shitted on harry belafonte and cornel west
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/10/21/poll_in_north_carolina_obama_beats_cain_by_80_amon g_black_voters.html

Damn! The man's gut is spot on - lets ask his gut something else.
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Why does the media continue to legitimatize the Socialist Party's Barack "My Pet Negro" Obama?
Um, because he's the President of the most powerful country in the world?
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Herman Cain is a fraud. It's becoming increasingly clear that his bid for the presidency is a ploy to sell books and create a prosperous career for himself on the motivational speaking ciruit. He's been a motivational speaker for the past fifteen years, he hasn't run a company since he stepped down as CEO of Godfather's Pizza in 1996. The guy is the male version of Sarah Palin. The state of politics in this country today is disgusting. It's a fucking circus.
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Interesting assumption behind this thread: are people of a certain ethnicity supposed to think a certain way?

Isn't it possible (and probable) that 2 people of the same race/ethnicity/gender/sexual orientation can look at the same set of circumstances and THINK/ACT differently?

What does this thread's assumption say about the concept of individual freedom to think for one's self?
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I loved Ross's debates, he made the others look like fools. Just think how different things would have been if had won?
The other's are fools.
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Why do Americans keep tagging Obama as a socialist? and why do you keep equating socialism with evil... wtf, has your god-sent capitalism been so effective?!?

Jeeze...

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the only americans who hate socialism are the ones who dont understand how their public schools became to be, or their public roads, and parks, etc... LOL

america has been socialist a long time.
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Yeah a hole in one.

Can't get anything past you.
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I'm voting for who ever is running against Obama.
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the only americans who hate socialism are the ones who dont understand how their public schools became to be, or their public roads, and parks, etc... LOL

america has been socialist a long time.
Yeah that's what socialism is.
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